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Why yes, I have stopped taking this seriously, why do you ask?
Quoted for truth.
But the best way to warp through time would be the sixth, not the fourth. The fourth dimension is simply, time. You can travel through the fourth dimension if you fold it in to a loop yes, but you`d be in the sixth dimension if you were properly folding into different periods of your life.
This is the link to the full story which this was taken from.
bubba_gum- you`re an idiot
here`s an example of someone who will never succeed in his dream.
did i mention blabla.
There is only NOW in the objectivity of the universe, time is just a tool. Yes if you could keep up with or outspeed the speed of light u could see past images. but thats not diffirent from television.
I`m glad i dont have to pay tax for that pointless instrument.
Uh-huh. :-/ I was jokingly referring to the US Senator who called the Internet a `series of tubes.` As for what lucid676 said...I`m not sure it connects at all.
Either you`re reading too much into what I said, or I`m reading too much into what you`re saying.
Offlinelucid676Male, 18-29, Western US 5 Posts Wednesday, February 28, 2007 5:35:28 AMThere is an amazing interview about this guy done by this american life at thislife.org. It covers how he tried to make a time machine out of vacuum tubes when he was a kid.
Then mine followed his. So however nonsensical, your post became relevent.
HylianNinja: I presented logic? Um, I think you may have confused me with somebody else.
spacetime confuses/intrigues me, and i`d love to see time travel become possible someday =]
Within the spinning area of space the partical never passes light speed and so laws of physics are preserved, but the combined velocity of both the partical and the space it`s travelling through, relative to the rest of the universe, will actually be far greater than that of light causing the partical to travel back in time.
According to relativity as you approach the speed of light time slows down eventually stopping all together when you reach light speed. Once you pass light speed time then starts to reverse.
The problem is the laws of physics state that nothing can go faster than light.
This is where the lasers come in.
So either way Einstein is correct about something
My memories take me to the Past.My dreams to the Future.I`m in the present.(I love that quote even if it ain`t exact)Guess what NO paradoxes...
Maybe this is a little bit out there for asking on this forum, but does anyone have an idea how a laser is supposed to create this gravitational vortex they`re talking about? I`m not a doctor of physics, but it would seem to me that if gravitational whirlpools are as easy as setting up a loop of laser light then contragravity, the problem of absolute zero and time travel should be readily obvious already...
I learned in physics last year that traveling into the future is possible if you go faster than the speed of light (which I`m not sure if that`s possible or not) but you`ll still live the same amount of years relative to yourself, it`s just everyone not going the speed of light will be moving a lot faster relative to you. However, if time travel to the past was ever invented, even if there were strict rules not to make yourself seen, don`t you think at one point time machines will be on the black market and some joker will go to like the American Revolution or something and streak around? But we`ve never seen that happen so I don`t think it`s gonna happen.
People going into the past would screw up the future yada yada ya... but think about it.. when we get to the point where humans can travel back, surely there`d be some super tight massive rules in using it to prevent anyone from the future from being seen
*shify eyes* The people from the future could be watching us right now o.O *shudder*
Also, that guy never said he wanted to go back and save his dad! He just said when he was a boy he desperately wanted to see his dad again, he`s a proffesor of physics now, he would know its not possible to save him
I hate it that people don`t read previous comments. If you think you`re cool coming up with your grandfather paradox, then read the comments about different a different timeline offshooting from there. That grandfather you just killed isn`t your own, it`s the grandfather of your parallel self.
So iansquall, your philosophy teacher may have argued that the future we`re in now cannot be altered because any alterations would occur on a seperate timeline, and thus not affecting us.
Anyway, I`m wasting my time. Soon there`ll be another influx of people piping up about the grandfather paradox. Sigh.
A person wrote a novella (I believe in the 40`s or 60`s) called "Flatland" that puts the whole "paper" thing into perspective for you. Read it. Then read a book called "Hyperspace" so you can get all the concepts included the 10 or so dimensions of space and time. The author does a great job breaking it down Barney-Style for you morons out there. For the record, I do not believe Time Travel will happen, but only because of paradoxical reasons, or the possibility that significant time travel will negate our reality. We can prove most things on paper, but every system has entropy in real life.
If a time machine were created, one CANNOT go further into the past than when the machine was turned on.
Meaning... no stopping Hitler, no stopping wars from the 20th century back, etc.
Which would imply that every particle has its own personal plane of existence; how they overlap to form a stable mass is still a bit beyond me though. I`m no scientist. :)
Wait, if the whole point of this guy`s mission to build a time machine is to go back and see his father, and time machines probably won`t be around for a WHILE, he`ll be dead. How`s he gonna go back in time to save his father? (probably not the entire point, I know, but he seemed so intent on doing that and it confused me)
On the time traveling theory itself... my philosophy teacher said something about the past not adversely having any effect on the future even if you go back and change things. I don`t remember (and I hate myself for forgetting this) what he used to back up his argument, but it was a reaally good point.
What you said was true for killing your own grandfather. PARADOX.
"Look at me! The waters are parting!"
*fiddles with futuristic device*
"Look! Its working! Now you will accept me as your god and do whatever I tell you to for the rest of my life!"
Just a theory.
And coincidentally, such an action could also prevent it. And this has been mentioned.
And read at least some of the earlier comments, people! You`d then see that a load of other people have said your stupid paradox or "we should already know" theory. And you`ll also see the more logical replies people made. And read what Bekll said on page 3.
The smallest change in the past can have a HUGE impact in the future for better for worse or both
- Chaos Theory
Theirs your answer to time travel
"I would not be able to use my time machine to see my father," Mallett writes.
I attended a lecture of Ronald Mallett - the man in the video at my college.
As it turns out, time travel has ALREADY been achieved by 1/2 a second.
Also, it should be during our lifetime that a time machine will be invented.
Understand this, say, hypothetically, the time machine was invented today. In 100 years the furthest one can go into the past is 28/February/2007 - today`s date. Only from the time the machine is turned on.
Time is flexible. One theory that Ronald is working on has to do with rotating black holes (which not even light can escape).
He is also using Einstein`s theories to reach his goal of man`s ultimate machine.
Time travel theories 101:
1) there is more than one time line, see back to the future where a new world exists to stabilize the timeline. However, that`s `the` timeline, according to the observer. The other timeline still exists, but you don`t see it anymore. (Allowing him to rescue his father)
2) The alien argument does not work for time-travel or aliens `if it`s possible, we`d observe it`. How do you know that it hasn`t been used on this demension already? You don`t, and the only way I could see time-travel resolving would be to NOT be accessable to the general public, or too many demensions would spring up.
3) the laser light show brings to mind "Closed time circles", in which time travel IS possible, but on a very limited scale.
Sorry for being a jerk.
Because -for example- if you went to the past and killed your mum, then you wouldn`t be born because your mum is dead, which means that you never existed, which means that you didn`t really kill your mum (because you were never there to begin with) which also means that your mum gave birth to you and so on and forth, hence you get stuck in an infinite loop.
And also like iamzach said, if time travel were possible, we`d find them coming to their past (our present)
Let me know when there is a fully working time machine for sale at my local Wal-Mart. Make sure it is simple... "Enter date you wish to travel to then press the green button." When that happens, let me know.
Past that, I give up.
time travel is already possible but not through mechanics and only to observe , not affect.
Light is an electromagnetic wave that happens to be visible to us. There are plenty of other such waves that travel just as fast but the speed of light seems to be the limit.
It`s been theorised that there are plenty of particles that travel faster than light but they can`t go slower. In that case, light speed isn`t so much a speed limit as a barrier between the fast lane and the slow lane.
=waste of time and effort.
Even if we can travel through time, we can`t change it - unless you change it off its course and TO what we know as history.
It`s like that quantum theory that states that every single possible outcome happens in a different universe. Which means that if you go back and change something, you can`t get back to the same future that you came from, because you`d basically be in the wrong universe, as that never happened in your original one. Meh, it`s confusing...but the bottom line is that they won`t be able to do it.
OK, so it was an elaborate hoax, but fun to read. This guy had photos of his time machine, photos of bent lasers beams, on and on.
But the theory of "worldlines" is fascinating. It eliminates paradoxes usually associated with time travel. I`m not a physicist, so i may sound like an idiot, but whatever. read about it. it`s cool.
I wondered the same thing. The only way I can think of is to watch their rotating time vortex ( or whatever it is) and see if anything unusual shows up. But, how will they know what it is they`re looking for? I suppose they could decide now what particle they are going to try to send in the future and look for that. Then again, if they`re watching for something to show up, who is going to send it? Very confusing.
Nah seriously, I find this pretty interesting. It goes beyond my logic, but he explains that with a paperclip, so who am I to say this isn`t gonna work :P And most of the comments above are useless, kthnx.
The idea is to use circular lasers that generate a gravitation field to create frame-dragging and then dropping a particle in it to get caught in the drag which will allow it to travel back in time. That seems to be the gist of it, more info here:
Interesting being like a divided by zero time loop drathole no-one can escape from or even know exists. WITH a paper clip through it. All ending(OR BEGINNING?!?) with an inbred creationism theory. Wait....
guess we`ll have to wait n see...
Time is funny that way huh? What happens needs to happen in order for things to happen the way they happen.
As a result, time may only move forward, we just have to find out how to do so.