Mothers Against Videogame Addiction and Violence

Submitted by: mark_is_cool 10 years ago Tech
http://www.mavav.org/

Serious?
There are 100 comments:
Male 11
jack thompson can kiss my video gaming @$$
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Male 244
I wasn`t really sure what to think of this, until I looked at the brain scan and saw the AK-47 photoshopped in. Funny, It`s probably run by some video-game nerds.
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Male 4,393
o god :( if my mom see this ses going 2 talk about
why the game Warcraft kills :( see ?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_addict...
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Male 321
Soon, M.A.D. shall destroy the fathers of video gaming... then they shall destroy board games, then take away all computerized technology. We teens must fight back! Viva La Resistance!
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Male 321
I do not respond to this due to the fact that I have like... 5 games... and they are all for the PS One... So... I am safe... HAHAHA LOSERZ :-P
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Male 62
war a load of BS it keeps us quit dosnt it
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Female 442
Sorry for posting again, but I figured I`d say something less stupid.

You can`t really get a video game that is really violent until you`re about 18, and your mind is much more able to absorb and learn things when you are much younger. When you can actually get this sh*t you`re too old to have your mind `programed` or whatever to think this violence is right. By the time you can get it you probably would know that this is entertainment, not a role model of how you should be. If your playing these games at ten or something that`s the fault of your parents (who are the ones complaining about this *gasp*).

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Female 442
Aww... But violent video games are fun!!! They`re also kind of stress releiving. Someone pisses you off, go bash some non-nice individual`s head in on some game.
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Male 198
That was just stupid. Now excuse me while I go play a marathon session of Manhunt for sixteen hours.
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Male 95
"Slaine, there are people who have died playing video games for 36 hours straight.."

Mhm, ONE F*CKING PERSON IN KOREA. PERSON. NOT PEOPLE.

This is a personal hot button issue for me. It started when I discovered a little game called Mortal Kombat 3 when I was 6 years old. My dad and I would play that thing for hours trying to kill each other and it was hecka fun.

Since then I have played games like Halo, GTA, Max Payne, Gears of War, and other gore-fests. I turned out fine!

This crap is all sh*t perpetuated by the media to protect children, when really they don`t need a whole lot of protection. Cmon, no "big talk" (you know what I mean" until age 16???!!! That`s messed up. Kids are gonna grow up not knowing what condoms or birth control are.

This is sh*t.

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Female 155
Jee, that Jack Thompson fellow looks like he belongs to a cult..

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Does he?

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Male 306
It just another stupid website that people make because they can`t compete with Blizzard and other big game companies. They just take the REAL facts and twist and/or bend it to influence other ignorant parents to stop buying games for their kids. Still some parents could have made this because they were stupid enough to not read the ratings and got their kid killed or at least made the kid skip school but I`m not just blaming this on parents but also on the 9 year old out there that is butchering the English language and also just not using their mind to think before, during, and after playing games.

Still the website is just stupid propaganda to tell parents that your child is stupid and violent due to video games.

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Male 80
I play videogames. NWO I WANT TO GO KILL BABIES! RAWR!


Hahaha, these kind of people make me laugh my ass off at humanity.

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Male 1,725
lol thats awesome
theyre so dumb and clueless lol
i laugh at them
haha
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Male 38
Soon we`ll find M.A.D "mothers against death!", it will be just as effective as this
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Male 216
it`s fake, no WOW maintenance breaks, BULLSHIZ
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Male 109
ppl are soooo drating stupid when it comes to stuff like this. if your not mentally sound enough to tell the difference between reality and fantasy and start acting like the characters in the games your playing, you shouldnt be gaming at all.
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Male 1,386
yay videogames
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Male 449
“Let’s quit using various Xboxes as babysitters instead of doing healthful activities,” says Ley, citing the growing epidemic of childhood obesity in the United States.

I`m citing from the MSN study this site linked to...

Obesity no longer a problem. WII FFS

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Male 810
HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA at the word filter`s job in line 8 of the above comment
Wonderful! that was better than the laugh i got out of the site..
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Male 810
Uhh... i know how you don`t get addicted
DON`T PLAY WOW
personally i`ve always hated it.. it seems like a pointless game, but then again, i`ve always hated RPGs, even after i took a 1 year long `liking` to Rune Scape when i was 10.
besides, any sane mother would probably want their child shooting pixelated mexican terrorists than shooting random birds and nieghborhood cats with a pellet gun
Plus, think of the experience
i actually learned the actions in which to load, rooster, and ready guns in a few games, and when i fired an M1 Carbine and M1 Garand, i felt tons more safe
and, the day a nuclear bomb goes off in new york, mexican terrorists attack texas, zombies take over, and clone experiments go arye, and pentagon staff are assasinated I`ll know what to do
`m16 pwn4g3!11!@!11`
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Male 3,578
that was funny
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Female 694
That creeps me out. I NEED my video games... especially the bloody violent ones... Only an idiot would act upon a violent NOT IN ANY WAY REAL video game.
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Female 1,596
I win!!

I play tons of violent video games. I`m 14, and a GIRL. This is really stupid. How can violent video games affect the brain? IT CANT And now you have to be 18 or older to buy Mature rated games. I wonder who are buying these games, it`s the drating retarded mothers!
Can`t anyone see on the back of a video game the game rating.
How can you not see the Rating, it has M! For you slow moms going, I need to spoil my kids, since I want them to be popular, so I`m going to give them the bad games, with violent, sex, and gangs.

I play a lot of video games. And my parents know what I play. They don`t have a problem, since I`M NOT CHANGING.
I still go to school, play sports, and do well with my friends.

And you mothers are NEVER going to get rid of video games, so don`t even bother with this bullpoo.

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Male 138
Obviously theyve never actually played the games.
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Male 42
^^^^ Continued

*Screw you anti-video gamers!!!*

Fact: Psychological studies have proven that, even the most casual teen gamers are affected by video games and suffer from low self esteem issues compared to their more athletic and social peers. The studies also revealed, younger gamers were more likely to become lifetime addicts and social outcasts.

*To assume is to... well you know the rest. Apparently casual gamers aren`t athletic. Therefore they have social problems. Also gamers are automatically social outcasts (Can you hear my sarcasm?). And What percent is "likely"? Because a majority of the people I`ve met played video games when they were little. They don`t today.*

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Male 42
*Just to start, I know I shouldn`t worry about this site. But I have seen arguements like this before (Minus the first one) and felt the need to fight back.*

Fact: Publishers exploit cute, huggable and lovable franchises such as Pokemon and Splinter Cell, in hopes of hooking more potential gamers in today`s youth. This is the same strategy practiced in the tobacco industry.

*Who says Splinter Cell is cute? This one just made me laugh*

Fact: Video games are proven to prevent proper development of social interactive skills which is needed for a happy enjoyable life. Gamers who pick up a controller very early in their lives are the most prone to life long burdens such as long term depression and sadness.

*Me and my brothers have been playing games since we first had the ability to process long term memory. We are socially fine. I have friends who play video games and they are socially fine. I know a psychiatrist who says games don`t effect social development!*

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Female 2,084
this is what they said about the burger king video games.

There is controversy surrounding these games as they promote fast food, mischievous behavior, and sneaking and surprising.

hahahahahahaha. omg. are they freakin serious??

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Female 2,552
I guess I should tell my brothers this..
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Male 938
wth there against the burining crusade? man.. i didnt even want to start with them.. but just glad my mom isnt into this crap... i mean i turned out fine
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Male 25
i love how they`re promoting World of warcraft stuff below the picture where it says that its bad
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Male 41
......lol
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Male 302
Kids who play hours at a time and are seemingly addicted, may not be. Many kids play games a lot aren`t doing it because they are addicted or violent, they just want to be the best and complete the objective the best way possible and get the most points.
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Male 1,521
These "mothers" need to get laid more often! So they will think in other stuff...
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Male 99
Linkage!: http://www.mavav.org/2007/01/02/aggressi...

Alleged violent brain on left side has gun-shaped area of activity. This proves this mothers against games is a bit fake. At least, IMO.

And moms, clue yourself in; a violent game has a visible Mature rating on the front, and has the violent descriptions on the back. If you can`t read the age level ratings, then you`re posing a strike against yourself here.

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Male 99
Does anyone else notice that in the cutaway brain diagram of a violent gamer at the top of the page, the highlighted red area is shaped like an automatic gun? This page seems like a fake.

Yeah, I`m real sure that when you play violent video games your brain forms a gun-shaped area of violent activity...

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Male 1
as a rabid player of games [im typing this on my wii lol] i can easily say that my hate for certian people is subdued once i turn on a system. i dont necessary own many shooter games and have yet to actually own gta... so am i going to be the next terrorist. absolutely not
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Female 236
World of Warcraft is a severe threat level? :|

What are the kids gonna do, put on their Cloak of the Bear, take their Sword of Destiny and Heroic Strike people in the real world? o_O

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Male 477

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Male 176
I wonder if I should get BC... I got bored of WoW, but then again I`m lvl 49 and a Warrior...
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Female 920
Plzzz... I play violent games... it`s not like I`m going to shoot up my block! But yeah, the bad games are the racist ones. I`ve heard of ones where you have to shoot minorities and the one with animals ones... Basically it`s a mother`s fault if she even permits the kid to buy the game...
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Male 176
Pwnd


So stupid. You can post images, as long as the code isn`t over 40 characters. WTF is up with that?

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Male 148
Slaine, there are people who have died playing video games for 36 hours straight..
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Lol dang amateurs, I back in my prime pulled 57 hours straight with no food, Just water and occasional restroom breaks.

I need help =(

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Male 222
And watch out for those battery rechargers... you can get HOOKED on those, i tell you!
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Male 222
Lol such n00b ppl especially the AK47 Brain scan >_>

LOLOL

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Male 1,866
lol is this a joke?
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Male 337
Mothers Against Videogame Addiction and Violence (MAVAV) is a parody and satire hoax organization created by sophomore Parsons The New School for Design student David Yoo as a final project in December of 2002.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAVAV

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Male 572
yep this sure is fake
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Male 2,486
People, it`s a fake website.

Notice how the brain heat scans turn out to be an AK-47 in the right picture?

if you didn`t pick up the fakeness right away, then I dunno what to tell you.

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Male 24
their comment to the Penny-Arcade comic was hilarious
Quote-"We seem to have struck a nerve with the talents at Penny-Arcade. Although we find our portrayal less than flattering."
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Male 510
this is bull... funny though... MCR FOWEVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Male 579
I knew it was fake the moment I saw the brain scan. The red blob was the shape of a AK47, classic.
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Female 20
We can blame the video game industry for teen violence.

And we can blame the automobile industry for car accidents!!!

Pfft.

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Male 28
we have already estblished the point that it is FAKE the link is on page one
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Female 13
You gotta be kidding me? This can`t be real? I meen, video games? Ehmm... Right....
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Male 395
Yeah The AK surely gave it away... along with the comment "Fact: Publishers exploit cute, huggable and lovable franchises such as Pokemon and Splinter Cell"

hmmmm.

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Male 2,600
jvcc, I heard of that study as well (a bit of a dated study, no?), but it seems to me that that only applies to children. As in, small children who haven`t had any behavioral foundation yet. Playing extremely violent video games isn`t likely to make me more violent or aggressive now, but it may have been more likely when I was younger. Not that I play especially violent games; I see no value in them.

I think another factor is the intelligence, individuality, and gullibleness of the subject. If they are not aware enough to know that this kind of violence is only acceptable and encouraged in a video game, they`re going to see it as a window through which to solve their wordly problems. Self-control and self-awareness are probably the biggest factors.

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Female 1
Am I the only one who noticed like a gun in the brain of the "violent game player"? Is that real?!
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Male 8
That site made me angry. Really angry. Brainwashing poor, innocent mothers like that. I feel like making a site against the MAVAV.
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Female 354
It`s very true that violent games make people, or at least children, preteens and teens, more violent and aggressive. When my brother started playing them was more like to yell at me or hit me.

My psychology book had an interesting story on a study done with young children. Half of a group of children watched a video where adults were playing very aggressively with a blown up clown doll. They hit it, kicked it, sat on it, etc. All the children were placed into rooms with toys. Once all the toys except the clown doll were removed, the children who saw the video all played more aggresively with the clown. If children see violence, they`re just going to repeat it.

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Male 36
I`m going to go ahead and offer an interesting link: http://www.gamerevolution.com/features/v...

granted, it`s a few years old, and the author may be biased, but there`s good legitimate information there.

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Male 312
WOOHOO!!!!!!!! I grew up playing Dragon Warrior and Contra for the NES. Guess how many people I killed.
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Male 64
There may be some bias in the study, as some teenagers who are already violent just happen to choose violent video games. But the study does show that there is some concern.
Never saw this on WebMD, so I don`t think it`s valid. :P
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Female 3,001
haha
the gun
in the guys head
after that i didnt bother with it :)
but their are actual organisations against this kinda thing...but i mean if u have a problem with it. diconect the internet so your kids cant get on online games, and dont bother buying your kids video games, hah when i was younger i remember when the sega came out, we all thought it was amasing :)
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Female 340
I have been playing violent games ever since I was able to play video games. Nothing wrong with me. I think any kid that does violent things after playing a video game has something mentally wrong with them and should be checked out. The parents are at total faught too. All games have ratings on them and tells you what is being done in the game. Stupid parents.
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Male 506
Oh come on...

How can anyone find this serious after looking at the brain activity chart that has an AK-47 photoshopped on the brain activity of violent game players?

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Female 854
oh, it reminds me of MATMOK "mothers against the music of kiss" from the movie detroit rock city:P
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Male 260
Oh my god, that kid has an assault rifle tumour!

Is this site fake, I`m not sure.

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Male 27
Lol warcraft is awesome, but some people take it too seriously. Take a break from the pc once in a while people of warcraft.
Also yeah the AK in the brain gave it away straight away
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Male 188
I really think it`s the people who have taken this site seriously who should have their heads examined... :-P
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Male 181
i just liked the first picture of a normal kid`s brain and the gamers brain...would have more nudity imo
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Female 854
I agree that world of warcraft can be pretty adictive, and some people play ALOT , but theres ways to control it. i played lots, it drated up school and my sociallife and everything, but i believe thats because i have self control on level with a fish:p I dont see why the parents are whining over it though, when there is that thing called parental control where you can set a shedule to when your kid can be able to log on and not. And also, its not like they will play it forever. One day they will get sick of it and start to do something else, like i did. Those parents need to stop whining.
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Male 213
OMMFG!!!!!!1111oneoneone

THERE IS AN AK-47 IN HIS BRAIN, i`ll never play agressive games ever

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Male 731
this possibly cant be taken serious after seeing the aka47 in the brainchart
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Male 119
lol at the ak in the brain...
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Male 619
ROFL, MAVAV is fake? Wow it sounded so "mother equipted"
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Male 5
http://a.parsons.edu/~dyoo/2002-3/intera...

mavav was a class assignment lol... still a fun read tho... found out it wasnt real about a year ago, right after i used it in a research paper about violence in video games lol... got an A on the paper lol

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Male 732
I think, all the "Mothers against..." groups should get together and form "Mothers against everything".

However, they say videogames make you agressive, because kids who play a lot of violent games are agressive?
I think, they fell for a logical fallacy called "The Texan Sharpshooter Fallacy", wich means, they see to events and just take it for cause and effect.
They are just ignoring, that it could be the other way around.
Agressive kids play a lot of violent games, because they just are agressive.
Who is with me?

Wow, what a 150th post!

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Male 901
I don`t really see the danger with letting a kid play a violent game. I played Duke Nukem when I was 8, and I turned out a pacifist. It`s all down to genes and parents, NOT video games. I laughed pretty hard though.
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Male 160
Got me bored...
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Female 1,972
Did anyone notice the update?
"Update : We are currently experiencing periodic and intermittent issues involving our forum. Our technician is aware of this issue and is actively working on a resolution. We thank you for your patience as we investigate the situation and work towards a resolution."

Apparently soccer moms make crappy programmers.
(I apologise in advance to all the soccer moms that are, in fact programmers.)

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Female 648
ACTUALLY, video game/game addiction is something that I do study on. These guys ARE serious. And I totally agree with MOST of what they say. HOWEVER, I also agree that as a parent, DON`T BE STUPID and buy "PORNOGRAPHIC VIDEO GAMES" and "VIOLENT LANGUAGE FILLED VIDEO GAMES" for your 13 year old!!! SHEESH!
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Female 690
This site is funny. In an article on video game addiction it says not to allow any electronics in your child`s room such as clock radios or calculators. I suppose they want kids to be late due to no alarm clock or not able to do their math homework.
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Male 645
Rofl,I think their secret agenda is just trying to get rid of the plague.....ehm....warcraft,Besides,Lack of self control isn`t all THAT bad....is it?
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Male 61
This is the same as when a mobile phone was near a petrol station that went up in flames...who do we blame? "well a person was using a mobile phone 10 feet away!"
Same goes for this a teen kills someone, they look in his room and find on his pc CS,doom3,HL2, quake3 and are like "well we now know the cause...video games!" lol what a load of BS!
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Male 46
Personally I think that`s a big steamy load. As a 14 year old boy I find it refreshing to take out my frustrations on little pixels and what not, my mother dearest has no problem with it. It`s those crazy moms who try and shelter their children and they get paranoid. Well I`m not knocking anyone, I`m just stating my opinion...
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Female 427
You are right Darkmartyr I did a project on this in psych class.

I found out that 47 out of the 50 non-video game playing teens show violence at home and/or school.

6 out of the 50 video game players show violence at school and/or home.

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Male 1,496
Obviously a joke look at the picture of the brain obviously cause you play games and AK 47 isn`t going to be engraved into your brain.
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Male 130
It`s just like that site mothers agenst peeing standing up. They make up "facts" because they can`t control the people in there lifes so they hope to control others.

It it wasn`t for violent videogames how would I surpress my urge to hunt and kill thing? Most like hunt people who make these sites.

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Male 888
Noo it isn`t serious, lol

(editrepostthing) But its sad that the link to the brain scans are. They took a racing game and put it against a shooter, go figure. No really, it isn`t brain surgery...

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Female 226
Oh come on...

How can anyone find this serious after looking at the brain activity chart that has an AK-47 photoshopped on the brain activity of violent game players?

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Male 438
This site is a premptive joke to discredit anyone who would actally take up the cause.

They will either rally under the site and write to it where they will be ignored, but still feel the issue is being addressed, or they will either cite it and or make sister sites that in both cases will cause them to become laughing stalks.

Feel lucky this site exists if you hate it, it`s probably one of the number one reasons why a real one like it doesn`t exist.

Also while the effect as mentioned above is great, it was not originally intended, and was a college joke.

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Male 380
Slaine, there are people who have died playing video games for 36 hours straight..

I dont think this website is about violence or anything, but personally i felt addicted to WoW. I played around 5 hours a day (+ work, + army reserves, + school) So it really took alot of time out of me. And i was only getting worse. The only thing that stopped me was that they banned me for cheating :P.

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Male 1,142
that site to funny. to slaine "a person who knows more than most adults, like you." you sure think a lot of your self.
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Male 391
part 2

You can teach your kids not to play video games. or not have it in the household.
sincerely, a person who knows more than most adults, like you.

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Male 391
here`s what i said to them

Are you really serious about this? You complain about the sexual and drug abuse and violence in these games. but there`s something called ESRB. The Entertainment Software Rating Board. They say what is included in the games. And they also say what age of children should be playing it. You complain but really you guys are the goddamn idiots that give their little 10 year old kids grand theft auto. These games are meant for entertainment purposes, and nothing more. No matter what you fools will do, there will be video games. and if you don`t like it, get your kids some lower rated games. think of it this way. you`re angry that your kids are awful but it`s because you`re terrible parents. nothing more. if you spent less time hitting your spouse, cheating on each other, drinking and chain smoking, we wouldn`t have this mishap. You bad parents are just looking for someone else to blame. Hey! I`ve got a great suggestion! You can teach your kids not to play video

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Male 157
Ahahaha. Warcraft? A danger?
Jeez, all the warcraft kids I`ve ever met are pretty mild.
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Male 60
Site spam!!!
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Male 17
they are so right video games are absolutely terrible and kids learn violence is cool from them. i agree with them completely. its not like it teaches them right and wrong, fantasy and reality or gives them a place to vent; video games only encourage bad behavior.
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