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The term "n*gger", in a general sense, is not funny and offensive because people are offended by it.
Whether or not white people have a `safe` comeback for cracker is beside the point, one word is offensive (generally) and the other isn`t (generally)"
They are both racist terms, PERIOD!
sucks for him
To large groups of people racism is perfectly acceptable. They don`t care a f*ck about what others think of their racist remarks. It might be different in the USA, but that`s not where I live.
"Racism should be fought every time someone does something racist."
Yes, why not? You probably won`t achieve much, but doing nothing is even worse. So... I turn out to agree with you on one point as well.
If so, racism should be fought every time someone does something racist, not as an overarching tv campiagn, poster posting, rallies, etc.
Racism fought as a campiagn rather then a case by case basis in the modern world is making a living off racism. It has been sufficently driven underground so that a white who says "blacks are horrible" gets fired/beat/looses freinds almost immediatly. There`s no need to campaign agianst that which the culture has already changed it`s veiws regarding.
Ahh, because people who have opinions we consider cruel but do nothing beyond keep there opinions to themselves should be violently assualted?
I love people who harp on culturally acceptable whipping targets with what I think is pride. Then I don`t wonder any more how things like Nazism work.
Richards was clearly trying to offend the man and n*gger is quite possibly the worst insult that applied. However, racism in its definition has nothing to do with hate as much as it has to do with holding a sustained belief that people of other races are inferior\superior. Was Richards attempting to offend every black person in the audience? Personally I think he was trying to make it part of his act, but he was still only addressing the one heckler.
Has Richards betrayed some obscure racist agenda by choosing an insult he felt would most offend his detractor?
Which one of these will get censored?
–noun 1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a. a black person. b. a member of any dark-skinned people.
2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised."
Get real, Immigrant, the word n*igger is not merely a descriptive
That is so amazingly untrue. Racism is entirely about racial inferiority, superiority or negative racial atrrtubtes (or positive ones).Regardless of intent, nigg*r isn`t racist. No more then black slob is racist. It is descriptive. It is sterotypical, and insulting, but far from racist.
I think anyone that uses racial slurs, no matter what they are (even "cracker"), are ignorant. Why use a derogatory name for someone`s race?
I love how you make the claim of ignorance regarding any racial slurs without actually realizing they are not racist. F*ggot, like n*gger, though offensive, are both merely descriptive terms for individuals. Insults, if you will, with the connotation of a fairy-boy and slovenly black chap respectively. They are not racist as they speak nothing about black`s as a race.
What makes it racist is that he said the word to offend. That was the whole point. He wanted to press their buttons because they heckled him, and he went way out of line for it. He wanted something to press against them, and since he chose to use a racial slur, that makes him at least in some respects a racist.
I think anyone that uses racial slurs, no matter what they are (even "cracker"), are ignorant. Why use a derogatory name for someone`s race? It is completely retarded. Does that make someone racist? Not necessarily. However, when someone is driven by anger to use those words, it does become racism.
"The true definition of racism defines it as an institution acting on discrimination or prejudice. Kramer is not an institution."
Kramer isn`t a "racism", he`s a racist, or a person belonging to such an institution. Idiot.
He does have a point. It`s not against the law to say n***er, but it`s only OK for black people to say it. F*** you.
And will people please stop calling people racist. The true definition of racism defines it as an institution acting on discrimination or prejudice. Kramer is not an institution.
You have to wear a ribbon.Thats why I don`t want to wear one.
God, you dumb f*cking cracker.;-)
And nowhere did I say or imply that the n-word wasn`t offensive. I hate the word and would neve condone it.
Scroll up and read what smort wrote. You`re saying that the black community in america is allowed to call me a cracker. A term which applies to white, southern plantation/slave owners of the 1800`s... Because white, southern plantation/slave owners took away their rights, more than 150 years ago. I had nothing to do with that. WHy is that fair?
overmann, once again you nailed it.
Yeah, saw the Letterman apology as well. PATHETIC! Not once did I think he was sincere about what he did - he came across like he was doing damage control in order to save his job.
Bottom line: If the guys in the audience are being jerks, don`t lower yourself BELOW their level.
See, you have also succumbed to the License to Overkill mindset. Is cracker, which is in fact a racial slur, somehow less offensive because blacks have earned a right to be racist? Is calling a woman a b*tch more offensive than calling a man a bastard? No, and it shouldn`t be. So goes the spiral of double-standards.
"Whenever I read one of your posts, I read it in a Hannibal Lecter(sp) voice."
lol I guess my avatar has more an effect on people than I thought... Yes, you got the spelling of Lecter right.
White people humiliated and took away so much from the black race. A white guy saying n*gger is really, really offensive.
Cracker being just as offensive as n*gger? You`ve got to be kidding me.
I said "in a general sense". you even quoted where I said it, how`d you miss it?
And just for future reference, I hate Ted Mencia.
Dane Cook had a heckler once, and he even included them on his CD. However, racial slurs were never said, and the entire situation was diffused with laughter! Yay!
P.S. - I don`t care if you like Dane Cook or if you think he`s overrated, it`s just an example.
How is that term not offensive? It`s the exact same as the n-word only applied to a different race. Don`t be ignorant. Just because comedians like Mencia use it all the time- doesn`t mean it`s funny and okay to say. I`d be outraged if someone called me a cracker.
Well said Overmannn. You remind me of some super genius villian from Batman. Whenever I read one of your posts, I read it in a Hannibal Lecter(sp) voice.
I think what michael did was over the top, but how the guy reacted was equally inappropriate.
Saying the word n*gger does not automatically qualify someone as a racist. Coincidentally, this is stereotyping. Immigrant has it right: choosing to use a slur considered by a number of people to be a racist slur does not automatically mean that person holds some racist ideology.
Just watched the apology and I must say, it must have taken a lot to do that.
Why is I am a racist! even considered racist anyway? It`s a racially specific descriptive term, in no way containing a racist context.
There is a term coined by Bernard Goldberg called the `License to Overkill`. When one group has predominantly suppressed another group and the tides of civil liberties come sweeping in, turning the world on its head, the previously suppressed group has acquired the right to say whatever it pleases against its suppressors without fear of reprisals. Note how the heckler isn`t considered to have anything to apologize for.
The word n*gger itself isn`t altogether offensive, as much as any word on its own can be offensive: it`s peoples` reactions to the word that makes it unacceptable and a bad reflection on the speaker. Was he being racist? No, he was being bigoted, but he used what I suppose now constitutes a racial slur.
And to anyone who says that "cracker" is as offensive as "n!gger" consider this. The term cracker does not refer to skin-color, contrary to popular belief. It refers to the CRACK of the slave-drivers whip. It basically acknowledges that at one point in history, whites enslaved blacks.
The reason that it is not quite a double standard is because it is a fact that in the U.S., there has never been a time where being black placed you in a higher social position than being white. But, there was a time that Whites ruled over Blacks in an unequal way, so racial slurs from whites directed at blacks simply "sting" more than slurs directed at whites. Come on, if you are white, do you really get that mad at being called a cracker? You may get mad, but not as mad as the black guy being called a N----- by you.
Kramers break down was surprising and sad.
1. What Richards said here was wrong and he should appoligize for it. However,
2. The other guy was bothing him for ages before he let loose. However,
3. No matter what people may say about double standards, blacks still have it worse that whites and "n*gger" is a worse word than "cracker". However,
4. I live with a black roommate, and she and her friends call eachother "n*gga" all the time. So where does the line end?
My point is, it`s too complex for us to decide. And why do we care, anyway? There are much bigger fish to fry.
he acted like such a child
Ayup, n*gger is the only racial slur blocked on IAB, and it`s replaced by I am a racist!. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT. If you guys are looking for true racism, just look at the sight that you`re on.
I say kudos to him for owning up to it. That couldn`t have been a very easy thing to do...
It basically says that blacks are in a weaker position and they need to be defended. Bull****! :P
Hardly. I`m in America, not some fascist state. I don`t condone racism, but I can see it being exploited, and if somebody is racist, who am I to hate them? Are we all going to teach them a lesson for saying bad words? People would be a lot better off looking after their own poo than worrying about something so insignificant as Kramer calling somebody the sacred "N-word". It`s just popular to be anti-racist now, that`s all. A new fad will come.
mel gibson meet micheal...michael this is mel...you two have fun O.o
That sucking sound you hear is his career.
Again, I could give a drat. I see two men getting into a fight, and one losing his temper.
Whether or not white people have a `safe` comeback for cracker is beside the point, one word is offensive (generally) and the other isn`t (generally)
Yeah, not too fair is it?
BTW, I`m not white.
You`re one of those people that are just annoyed by the double standards of racism to the point that you actually try and defend when white people are racist, aren`t you?
I liked the part where everything you said was an assumption. Like "I bet the black dude was racist first" and "he did it to make this point and that point"
Also, Richards was only treating him like he would any other person, just happened to be a black guy. `I am a racist!` is the only racial slur that people gasp over. Cracker? pssh. Beaner? whatev. I am a racist!? OMG!!!! It`s because the black community takes it so harshly and will kill over a stupid word. Because of that everyone says he went too far cause he used the word. This was Richards` point! He said it and was like `ooohh ohhh see it shocks you.` the `f` word was ok... yelling for interupting was ok... but n-gger... OMG!!!!! what`s the matter? is it to much for you to handle?...get over it...
he knows he was scared. all talk. little wuss.
Funny thing is he probably hopped straight into his car and went to the motel before anyone could kick his ass.
There`s a better video, you can actually read what he says in the subtitles.