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Date: 10/16/06 02:38 AM

145 Responses to How Beauty is Made

  1. Profile photo of muffinman206
    muffinman206 Male 13-17
    39 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 12:10 am
    Link: How Beauty is Made - Amazing what makeup and some photoshopping can do.
  2. Profile photo of angelicamber
    angelicamber Female 18-29
    1572 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:44 am
    First..
    It`s not like that`s not common knowledge..
  3. Profile photo of SpoonFork
    SpoonFork Male 30-39
    1265 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:47 am
    I don`t think people realize just *how* different it is from what you start with and what you end up with. For example, the neck stretching, the making of the eyes bigger, etc.
  4. Profile photo of AmyNicoleduh
    AmyNicoleduh Female 18-29
    1158 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:56 am
    I agree. ^^

    I don`t know what to say..except..they`re right. And I congratulate Dove for what they`re trying to do..but it probably won`t make much of a difference, unfortunately.

  5. Profile photo of SarahofBorg
    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:14 am
    Makes me wonder why they even bother with models at all, when they can probably make even the fugliest woman look stunning that way.
  6. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
    285 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:16 am
    That was amazing. Its almost scary what photoshop can do.
  7. Profile photo of ch1ky
    ch1ky Female 13-17
    91 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:17 am
    well of course she didnt look that good going in... i mean she didnt do anything for herself because she knew she was going to get her hair/face done. now the whole photoshopping thing was pretty drastic... why not just get a picture from google and work off of that
  8. Profile photo of Swaywithme
    Swaywithme Female 18-29
    3696 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:19 am
    they go for models because the less money they have to spend on photoshopping the better. Apparantly it`s insanely expensive...

    that`s crazy though, for far they can go.

  9. Profile photo of dudeman1st
    dudeman1st Male 30-39
    1354 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:21 am
    That`s amazing, but why don`t they just start with a hot chick? It would save a lot of money. Besides, isn`t our perception of beauty preprogrammed? There`s all kinds of studies done where babies spend more time looking at the faces of beautiful people. I appreciate Dove`s sentiment, but beautiful people will always be given advantage, for better or worse. <rant> I just hope they don`t get on the whole "it`s okay to be fat" bandwagon. Fat is just unhealthy and unnatural, no matter what people say. Yah, some people are naturally big, and that`s ok. I ain`t much of a flyweight, myself. But you look around these days and it`s like, damn, take a walk to the park and lay off the Krispy Cremes. </rant>
  10. Profile photo of austin808
    austin808 Male 13-17
    73 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:25 am
    damn. that was amazing. What photoshop do you think that is? I can see myself making a fortune on myspace.
  11. Profile photo of DMDekoth
    DMDekoth Male 70 & Over
    888 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:27 am
    Am I crazy for thinking she was fine before?

    And wow, I want the music.

  12. Profile photo of SarahofBorg
    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:30 am
    "but why don`t they just start with a hot chick"
    You don`t get it at all. NO one looks like the end product of that process, in reality. But the real truth is that reality isn`t pretty, but when you alter reality it looks beautiful.
    Looking beautiful is about illusion, about making yourself look more idealistically perportioned than is humanly possible. To look like Barbie.
    So remember, anytime you see a photo of some one who looks too beautiful to be real, well that`s because they arn`t! Real people don`t look like make-up ads and never will.
    For example, no adult has eyes that big, and no person under 7 feet tall has a neck that long. Often they stretch the legs out to be 5 feet long.
  13. Profile photo of SarahofBorg
    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:31 am
    "Am I crazy for thinking she was fine before?"

    No, and that`s because you`re disillusioned :D

  14. Profile photo of AmyNicoleduh
    AmyNicoleduh Female 18-29
    1158 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:40 am
    I think DMDekoth meant after she got made over but before she got photoshopped.. which I agree. Her hair was beautiful, too, but they had to fix that too. Stupid.
  15. Profile photo of Unbreakable
    Unbreakable Female 18-29
    327 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:47 am
    go dove!
  16. Profile photo of gorgeousplan
    gorgeousplan Female 18-29
    146 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:55 am
    i applaud most everyone`s comments! what i mean is: ditto to most of the above!

    damn magazines... damn my subscription isnt over yet... ahem...

  17. Profile photo of MsYummiSushi
    MsYummiSushi Female 13-17
    24 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 5:22 am
    She wasn`t ugly to begin with. She just looked REALLY evil for some reason..
  18. Profile photo of pui
    pui Female 18-29
    3574 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 5:31 am
    It`s so true. No wonder girls are starving themselves and no wonder no girl seems to ever be happy with how they look... it`s because our everyday idea of what is beautiful is not even real anymore, nevermind achievable without photoshop, makeup and the right way to take a picture.
  19. Profile photo of benjbenj
    benjbenj Male 30-39
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    October 16, 2006 at 5:48 am
    fascinating
  20. Profile photo of Joyful1
    Joyful1 Female 13-17
    51 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 6:51 am
    Wow, that could make even me look good :P
  21. Profile photo of kristun666
    kristun666 Female 18-29
    214 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 7:05 am
    wow. not surprising in the least, but wow.....i guess you don`t really realize all that they do to those people to make them look pretty. but `ya know, i`d still buy a product if it worked, even if their adversizement wasn`t fake beautiful, just real beautiful
  22. Profile photo of thubanstar
    thubanstar Female 50-59
    822 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 7:40 am
    Dudeman, it`s interesting you jump from "Beauty" to "Fat" even though the web is full of Big, Beautiful Woman sites and there are large size models.

    And Austin, Photoshop is the name of a specific type of software, Adobe makes it.

    As for the pics, it`s interesting if you look on model photos from the 1930`s, 1940`s, 1950`s when you could not alter a photo easily. The women were very beautiful, just more natural. Too bad we can`t aim more toward that again.

  23. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 7:52 am
    Frightful. Why trust any advertising these days?
  24. Profile photo of Wyrenth
    Wyrenth Male 18-29
    251 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 8:02 am
    Pretty cool. It`s nice that a beauty care company is making an effort towards natural beauty as opposed to the distorted sense that professional fashion publications hand out to the people.

    Things have to begin somewhere, right? After all, if no one does it, it`ll never get done.

  25. Profile photo of wauwa1983x
    wauwa1983x Female 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 8:22 am
    ^ what he said.
  26. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 8:28 am
    thubanstar..... dudeman was referring to, spilling out of your jeans and on to the floor, fat. if you read his comment thouroughy he also says theres nothing wrong with being heavy....

    as for the video....shame. i didnt find the end product that attractive either. made me think of latex with powder sprinkled on it O.o

  27. Profile photo of doodleduck
    doodleduck Male 18-29
    175 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 8:34 am
    The woman didn`t look the bad in the first place...
  28. Profile photo of Timicus
    Timicus Male 18-29
    70 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:06 am
    hmm... with this knowledge I`m tempting to go outside and scream "SHAWPED" at ever billboard I see.

    But you see, that would require getting up...

  29. Profile photo of PrincessX
    PrincessX Female 13-17
    180 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:22 am
    ^ lawl

    I do think that photo-shopping that drastically is wrong
    BUT
    (to all the people that mention girls starving themselves in the news) In the UK about 46% of men and 32% of women are overweight. And between 5 per cent and 10 per cent of girls and women (i.e. 5-10 million people) and 1 million boys and men suffer from eating disorders.

    Which percentage is higher? I think companies and websites dedicated to telling women big is beautiful is stupidly over-rated. More people should be tackling the obese.

    This is only in the UK because I only know about the UK....

  30. Profile photo of braindamaged
    braindamaged Male 18-29
    102 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:35 am
    no big surprise... who cares though, I know plenty of girls who are prettier than that photoshopped image without any make-up or fakeness.
  31. Profile photo of freddyferret
    freddyferret Male 40-49
    11741 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:38 am
    I agree with most of the comments here. I knew that work was done on pictures in billboards and magazines. They even do it to the big stars. I didn`t really believe it was that extreme but I was just shown that it is. That`s sad. She was beautiful before the photoshopping was done. No need to distort it like that.

    As far as the weight issue goes, it IS getting out of control. I see plus sized clothing for sale now for kids who are 5 or 6 years old. That`s sad. It`s not genetics, it`s being fat and lazy. Instead of being out playing ball and riding bikes, they`re parked in front of a screen all day. Instead of eating apples and carrots with a cookie now and then, they eat deep fried Twinkies. It`s insane. I saw a commercial for a restaurant that now serves fried green beans as an appetizer. WTF??? No wonder people are so fat. If you`re naturally larger that`s fine, but a lot of people are just fat, lazy pigs.

  32. Profile photo of justone
    justone Female 18-29
    108 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 10:38 am
    And I hawe problems about my beautiful, no fartherst comments

    BTW

    I look beautiful :D :)

  33. Profile photo of notapervert
    notapervert Male 13-17
    2567 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 10:41 am
    =o
  34. Profile photo of tawnymw1988
    tawnymw1988 Female 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 10:50 am
    ... Petrifying long neck...

    Yes... MOST obese adults are lazy...As for kids being fat... I blame the parents...

  35. Profile photo of N1kk1
    N1kk1 Female 13-17
    1463 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:02 am
    very good advert
  36. Profile photo of whs_senior
    whs_senior Female 18-29
    68 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:17 am
    sounds about right these days
  37. Profile photo of Kouhii
    Kouhii Female 13-17
    41 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:18 am
    Ya know what`s funny? I`m 13, sit in front of the computer all i can, I`m lazy as can be, yet I`m 95 pounds, which I think is slightly underweight. My brother, however, who is in 5th grade, weighs more than me and I`m pretty sure is overweight. I swear, other than the fact we have the same color hair, we are complete opposites (not just in weight, in everything.... excluding sometimes explosive temper at eachother)

    What I don`t get is the name of that damn fund. How do you give someone self-esteem? Even more, how do you PAY for it? It`s something they have to build themselves. Think about it, if they try to help someone with it, the person is really comfirmed that their ugly and so need more self-esteem. Besides, my lack of self-esteem comes from being uglier than the people around me, not the frikin models. People don`t fall in love with billboards.

  38. Profile photo of ryan14
    ryan14 Male 13-17
    2057 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:20 am
    aww thats just not being very nice to that woman at the start
  39. Profile photo of flingspoo
    flingspoo Female 18-29
    999 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:32 am
    i dont need no stinking photoshop! but it would be really fun to get hair, makeup, everything done (except for shop) and see what i look like. maybe for my wedding pics or something.
  40. Profile photo of flingspoo
    flingspoo Female 18-29
    999 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:36 am
    i dont think sself esteem comes from what you look like. it is something that has to be built up from within. it comes from what you do. you clean your house, exercise, keep yourself clean, etc, youre gonna feel alot better about yourself and about life than somebody that is "beautiful" on the outside and doesnt take care of themselvses
  41. Profile photo of SmagBoy1
    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
    4432 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:53 am
    I don`t know if they run in the States, but here in Germany Dove has billboards of regular-sized women in bra and panties. None of the stick figured women you`d normally see in those ads. They`re laughing and standing proud and it`s nice to see. I like the campaign and think that knowledge is power and power can lead to self esteem, so, I think it`s a good thing. :-)
  42. Profile photo of Kalishpa
    Kalishpa Female 18-29
    318 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 12:07 pm
    There are plenty of people who are beautiful, without all of that. I think that with all the makeup and photoshoping, it just makes other people feel bad about themselves. People should embrace their natural beauty, and forget about having to look like a model or be as skinny as a toothpick. You can be beautiful just being yourself, and if everyone would stop getting all this plastic surgery(unless nessesary,) wearing all this makeup, and just be themselves they could look at everyone around them and fell good about themselves. People do not look like that no one looks like that. Everyone needs to just be themselves instead of trying to change, then everyone can feel good.
  43. Profile photo of nawkshis
    nawkshis Male 18-29
    102 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 12:24 pm
    smagboy i believe the US has the billboards youre talking about, at least ive seen them in chicago. but yea im pretty sure we have them here too.
  44. Profile photo of xMyHOBOx
    xMyHOBOx Male 18-29
    46 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 12:24 pm
    I have seen many photoshops in my time and this is definitely photoshopped!!!
  45. Profile photo of Legion5
    Legion5 Male 18-29
    438 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 12:32 pm
    Because that is a hot chick, without the make up. Many very hot girls also don`t enjoy being models. (because some guys don`t like it.)... so most of the girls are a small step down. Anyway, girls go to shoots without their own expert make up because the studio always does it better.

    Finally there`s the fact that the lack of two lenses to create a 3d image like our eyes do, makes everything look fat and short. Try looking at any object then closing one eye.

    This hot chick phenomenon (though the super hot ones enjoy being super models for the record)...

    Combined with the 3d effect I`d say makes up for about 50% of the improvment. The other 50% I think people genuinly notice.

    Some are silly, but I`m really not too fond of this whole "self esteme" campeign crap.

  46. Profile photo of carnivia2
    carnivia2 Female 13-17
    86 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 1:01 pm
    I love the Dove adverts. Seriously, I have a cousin who is so obsessed with losing weight, but she`s not even fat. She`s 13 and she`s so skinny that, she can fit into a 3 year olds top
  47. Profile photo of Cynnick
    Cynnick Female 13-17
    408 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 1:12 pm
    It`s a scary change isn`t it?
    No wonder so much pressure is put on us to look like living Barbies. I may try to photoshop myself just once though. To see how much of a difference I can make.
  48. Profile photo of cantremember
    cantremember Male 18-29
    39 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 1:15 pm
    Beauty is only a few pixels deep...
  49. Profile photo of Pinkies
    Pinkies Female 13-17
    679 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 1:25 pm
    And shes ugly aswell!
  50. Profile photo of nic_blink182
    nic_blink182 Female 18-29
    333 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 1:37 pm
    photoshop is amazing fair doos
  51. Profile photo of 123frode
    123frode Male 13-17
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    October 16, 2006 at 1:49 pm
    a little spooky... but its true "beauty is from the inside" quote from somewhere* those who cant see it poor them...
  52. Profile photo of pudsey123
    pudsey123 Male 13-17
    266 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 1:50 pm
    Pretty cool. It`s nice that a beauty care company is making an effort towards natural beauty as opposed to the distorted sense that professional fashion publications hand out to the people.
    Things have to begin somewhere, right? After all, if no one does it, it`ll never get done.
  53. Profile photo of pudsey123
    pudsey123 Male 13-17
    266 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 1:53 pm
    even though all i just said is true i think it was very funny when they just `lifted` hear head on the computer lol.
  54. Profile photo of NSFW
    NSFW Female 13-17
    106 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:04 pm
    The example in this is kind of an extreme, they usually try to use models who already look good and are photogenic to cut the time and money used on photo editing. I know that usually they touch up the eyebrows, skin flaws, stray hairs, etc. but this was unrealistic. They don`t take some average chick off the street to be a model and say, `Oh, we can just photoshop that later`.

    Now, they DO touch it up a lot when singers or other people who weren`t models to begin with are in magazine covers and sh*t. They don`t have their job for being good-looking like models do, but they still have to have their pictures everywhere.

  55. Profile photo of apttodo
    apttodo Female 18-29
    795 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:10 pm
    cool video
  56. Profile photo of MilkyFan
    MilkyFan Female 13-17
    125 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:11 pm
    Just goes to show how unfair it is that some women feel pressured to look as good as these beauty models.
  57. Profile photo of jvcc
    jvcc Female 13-17
    354 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:13 pm
    Oh, why can`t they just leave people alone. She looked pretty in the beginning.
  58. Profile photo of mise
    mise Female 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 2:26 pm
    if only some people realised that these women are ridiculously beautiful with the help of computers.I find it upsetting when people put their health in danger to look like them.thank you dove!great video.
  59. Profile photo of jjcruiser13
    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:27 pm
    The media is distorting our views on what is beauty, that`s for sure. I have to say that Dove is doing something wonderful here by trying to tell girls that they don`t have to look like models to be pretty. In fact, most guys I know REALIZE that people don`t look that perfect in the real world. The only guys that insist on dating superpretty, superskinny girls are either shallow or found a girl he likes that happens to be blessed with a good body.
    Most people in the world don`t expect girls to actually look like this, so I wonder why girls think that just because magazines do this, they`re expected to look perfect to get attention from guys. I`m no where near that but I am pretty and sexy and I got a guy. I wish girls knew that the real world has real expectations. Only hollywood expects you to look like that.
  60. Profile photo of Bekll
    Bekll Female 18-29
    1984 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:38 pm
    It`s nice that I wouldn`t need to be altered. :)
  61. Profile photo of BeachBum0694
    BeachBum0694 Female 18-29
    285 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 2:43 pm
    why is photoshop expensive? isn`t it just a computer program?
  62. Profile photo of Galileo53
    Galileo53 Male 13-17
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    October 16, 2006 at 2:59 pm
    that kinda scared me :P
    she whas fugly but she had very nice eyes
  63. Profile photo of schmexie
    schmexie Female 13-17
    351 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:05 pm
    i think what dove are doing is really good, but like AmyNicloeduh said, it`s not really gonna make much of a change.
  64. Profile photo of obeydarklord
    obeydarklord Male 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 3:11 pm
    this is like marlboro giving out stop-smoking resources...
    And In marketing, there is no such thing as natural beauty
  65. Profile photo of HaruHaru
    HaruHaru Female 13-17
    1065 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:20 pm
    its a nice attempt to change everyone but I really doubt it`s going to do anything to the media, we are ruled by it and always will be. The idiotbox rules all.
  66. Profile photo of chaosgirl
    chaosgirl Female 13-17
    169 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 3:55 pm
    I gotta show my little sister this...
  67. Profile photo of pui
    pui Female 18-29
    3574 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 4:03 pm
    does anyone remember this link?
    http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm...

    or has anyone seen this?
    http://homepage.mac.com/gapodaca/digital...

  68. Profile photo of Bennyd
    Bennyd Male 13-17
    1092 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 4:12 pm
    People should just be accepted for who they are, but photoshopping does make for better adverts.

    I also can`t believe some idiot hasn`t yet gone crazy about the fact it`s a shop. Cannibal151`s followers (if he had any) have gone!

  69. Profile photo of Trizz
    Trizz Male 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 4:22 pm
    Was it really nessesecary to make hedr neck longer? After all that she just didn`t look real.
  70. Profile photo of hovalady411
    hovalady411 Female 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 4:48 pm
    Just for that commercial i`m going to go out and buy some Dove shampoo.
  71. Profile photo of Jimbo1027
    Jimbo1027 Male 13-17
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    October 16, 2006 at 4:50 pm
    she was pretty ugly before the makeup
  72. Profile photo of Omgroflwtf
    Omgroflwtf Male 13-17
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    October 16, 2006 at 4:56 pm
    GOD DAMN MICROSOFT. Just stops and says- Buffering 24 % completed...and no matter how long I wait it doesn`t work. Why do they always have to use Windows media? Has anyone realised that it is completely unreliable laggy and ugly other than me? >-(
  73. Profile photo of Fabbyfubz
    Fabbyfubz Male 13-17
    176 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 5:02 pm
    It`s obviously a cheap ploy for dove to sell more beauty products.
  74. Profile photo of M3ntal1313
    M3ntal1313 Male 18-29
    448 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 5:41 pm
    Wow..
  75. Profile photo of bubblebubb
    bubblebubb Female 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 5:57 pm
    It was good for showing that nobody looks as good as models, even the actual models!!

    But i cant help thinking this is very sneaky advertising cos it makes us feel good to see their adverts. They`re telling us to be naturally beautiful but at the same time they want us to buy their stuff so we can mask our beauty up with products! Like someone said - its "like marlboro giving out stop-smoking resources..."

  76. Profile photo of lilna178
    lilna178 Female 13-17
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    October 16, 2006 at 5:58 pm
    I can only imagine how the stars really look now a dayz..
  77. Profile photo of brutalnz
    brutalnz Male 30-39
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    October 16, 2006 at 6:07 pm
    but it works, that`s the sad thing.
  78. Profile photo of vthokie4me
    vthokie4me Male 13-17
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    October 16, 2006 at 6:12 pm
    dove is so gay...they whole campaign is just an excuse for womken to be fat and ugly
  79. Profile photo of mt1045
    mt1045 Male 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 6:37 pm
    wow....
  80. Profile photo of EstiloPanama
    EstiloPanama Female 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 6:37 pm
    I`m all for scratching the surface and trying to make an impact and change perceptions. It will happen eventually as long as people do not give up.
  81. Profile photo of sims2luver
    sims2luver Female 13-17
    797 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 6:48 pm
    Most people look good before make-up and photoshopping, but they don`t care, they just want to sell their products with a picture that is top-notch.
    That`s why Dove is doing the exact opposite with real people with little to no make-up and touch ups so that they make a point, that the media is bogus.
  82. Profile photo of nicole_xo
    nicole_xo Female 13-17
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    October 16, 2006 at 6:49 pm
    She looked fine the way she was, she didn`t need photoshopping. I would of been insulted if I were her, but hey, that`s life.
  83. Profile photo of mistkiki
    mistkiki Female 70 & Over
    31 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 6:59 pm
    It`s not really "like malboro giving out stop-smoking pamphlets" because they`re not a makeup company, just cleansers, shampoo, and that kind of thing.

    And I think there are no Cannibal clones because (hopefully) they were all banned.

  84. Profile photo of teeny0584
    teeny0584 Female 18-29
    192 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 7:05 pm
    i think this is the dove ad someone had mentioned..
  85. Profile photo of XIVashIX
    XIVashIX Female 18-29
    23 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 8:17 pm
    In my opinion, our definition of beautiful changes with each passes fasion trend. We were all made to look different and unique, not beautiful and ugly. We`ve just become so attached on looks now-a-days, that we don`t really know what beauty is anymore. We look at super models and movie stars and call them beautiful, but they aren`t all that great looking to EVERYONE. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
  86. Profile photo of Olragix
    Olragix Male 18-29
    1080 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 8:18 pm
    exactly
  87. Profile photo of 23scadu
    23scadu Male 18-29
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    October 16, 2006 at 8:29 pm
    I don`t care if its fake, I like my woman like I like my coffee. HOT and COLUMBIAN. Whats up w/ this natural Hippy look?
  88. Profile photo of Inuneko
    Inuneko Female 18-29
    52 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:05 pm
    Well, Dove doesn`t sell makeup to my knowledge, only skin and hair products like skin cream, cleansers, etc. It`s to improve your natural skin condition so that women can see that their natural skin and complexion really is beautiful, to help their self-esteem (with no thanks to beauty ads).

    But nothing`s worse than a pretty person who feels ugly, it`s all in your mindset.

  89. Profile photo of unintrasting
    unintrasting Female 18-29
    1121 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:21 pm
    i wonder why thats not a commercial yet? I like it I bet if they did have it on tv they would prolly sell a lot more because that is so true.
  90. Profile photo of 72tour
    72tour Male 13-17
    222 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:38 pm
    That was cool.
  91. Profile photo of engruls06
    engruls06 Female 18-29
    401 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 9:47 pm
    hmmm normal...
    i liked her eyes better when they were smaller...they looked more mysterious...
  92. Profile photo of Vindicate
    Vindicate Female 18-29
    511 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 10:09 pm
    Eh... society, as a whole, is stupid and will fall for anything.

    But then again, since most people are average looking, and average isn`t good enough for today, it`s really not a shock.

  93. Profile photo of bernisa
    bernisa Female 13-17
    21 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 10:20 pm
    what is the program called that they have used
  94. Profile photo of Marram
    Marram Male 18-29
    316 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 10:21 pm
    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Honestly, that quote couldn`t be more true. I mean first off, looks are NOT everything. A pretty girl doesn`t turn my head, I don`t oggle pretty women. There was a time in my life when I did do that, but have grown out of that stage. I have been told numerous times that people don`t understand why I like XXXXXXX because she isn`t very good looking. Beauty, to me, isn`t based on physical appearence. I fall for people with beautiful personalities, not because of a beautiful face. I hate when girls call themselves fat or ugly based on what society calls beautiful. I can`t count the number of times one of my friends called herself fat and that she needed to lose weight. Man, she was thin, beautiful, and had the most wonderful personality. She brought a smile to my face everytime I saw her. It all comes down to beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
  95. Profile photo of diegotx
    diegotx Male 18-29
    239 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 10:25 pm
    So True
  96. Profile photo of opiebreath
    opiebreath Female 18-29
    15774 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 10:40 pm
    I am what I think you think I am.

    The looking glass self.

    INTELLIGENCE FTW?!

  97. Profile photo of videogamer
    videogamer Male 18-29
    3016 posts
    October 16, 2006 at 11:36 pm
    You can`t do that with Adobe Photoshop Elements 2.0.

    Too bad that`s all I have.

  98. Profile photo of Clayboy
    Clayboy Male 18-29
    651 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 12:26 am
    "But the real truth is that reality isn`t pretty, but when you alter reality it looks beautiful"

    I disagree with this comment. The real truth is is that as time goes on the perception of beauty will become more and more distorted as long as we have the means to manipulate reality.

    Just take a look at an old fashion shot from the 70`s, while people were very drawn to the natural beauty back then, for most, now its not enough.

  99. Profile photo of bumblecock
    bumblecock Male 18-29
    643 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 3:03 am
    She still looks fug.
  100. Profile photo of Yumiii
    Yumiii Female 13-17
    1382 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 3:59 am
    But the real truth is that reality isn`t pretty, but when you alter reality it looks beautiful

    Tch, I don`t suppose you`ve ever been on a wlk in a bush/forest/woods/whatever, anything with trees and nature?

  101. Profile photo of for_serious?
    for_serious? Female 13-17
    1403 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 10:15 am
    Uhhh...this is gonna sound bad but...she still looked like a trannie after the photoshopping.
  102. Profile photo of supa_ninja
    supa_ninja Female 13-17
    144 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 3:09 pm
    holy poop , thats some massive computer skills they got like i mean daamn they made her look different , thats such bull crap lol
  103. Profile photo of NumbuhZero
    NumbuhZero Female 18-29
    878 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 5:08 pm
    ummm...
    isn`t that how everyone does there face up in the morning?
  104. Profile photo of bored1197
    bored1197 Female 13-17
    160 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 5:17 pm
    i dont think she is pretty even with the makeup and photoshopping
  105. Profile photo of ryno1727
    ryno1727 Male 13-17
    137 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 5:57 pm
    damn, skip from 20 seconds into the movie to 50 seconds, it`s pretty scary how much they change.
  106. Profile photo of CheezeLuv
    CheezeLuv Female 13-17
    153 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 8:08 pm
    I think even just the photoshopping was pointless. She looked pretty without all that. Hell, she was beautiful without the make-up! All she had to do was brush her hair, and maybe wash her face lol..She`s pretty! Dove rules!! They are doing exacly what the world needs right now. Our perception of beauty is so distorted. Some people may be not-so-attractive on the outside, but most are very nice people! But, take a look at some beautiful people. A lot of them think they`re "all that", and are rude. Take a look around..
  107. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 8:48 pm
    So I guess girls are just mindless drones with no sense of beauty on their own except for what men find attractive. Slaves to perception, you might say. Looks like feminism has failed! But as some of you have pointed out, like Sarah of Borg, no one looks like that in real life (I have seen women that beautiful and more in real life), and our perception of beauty is somehow an illusion, or inculcated into our minds through the media; yet, you refer to the illusion as being employed to achieve an IDEALISTIC proportion that no one has. Well, why is that proportion IDEALISTIC in the first place, if not preprogrammed! You can`t have the chicken before the egg, and not the egg before the chicken. Life imitates art imitates life. These things are preprogrammed to a large degree, as dudeman1st pointed out, and are recognized WORLDWIDE as symbols of beauty; the hourglass figure (reproductive advantage), symmetry (worshipped in every species) and health. Our ideals aren`t arbitrary!
  108. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 8:48 pm
    CheezeLuv, but why do women NEED a self-esteem fund, unless they`re mindless drones and slaves to perception? They obviously possess these traits for evolutionary reasons don`t they, being so hyper-sensitive to social mores and approval? I`m sick of it! Don`t blame the companies who CATER to this ingrained perception of beauty in men! And don`t blame men for the mindlessness of females who fall all over themselves in pursuit of it! Nature is responsible for their GENERALLY submissive predisposition, not us! They just wanna reproduce as much as we do, and follow a different tactic as set forth by years of environmental adaptation! Otherwise, they wouldn`t need the "Self-Esteem" fund. That is the lamest, most priss-ass piece of dog-shiite title I have EVER heard for something established to assure a certain group of people that they are not the subservient peons to somebody else`s perceptions, or demands. You want REAL women`s liberation? Try reading the Satanic Witch
  109. Profile photo of SnToe
    SnToe Female 30-39
    104 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 10:57 pm
    You want REAL women`s liberation? Try reading the Satanic Witch
    -
    Anton LaVey had beautiful skin, too! :o
  110. Profile photo of kittycatz
    kittycatz Female 18-29
    100 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 11:55 pm
    What some people don`t get is that when you literally grow up from the cradle seeing these idealized images of what`s "beautiful," it distorts your perception. It`s basic psychology; the world you`re born into is the world you live in. You`ll always have that pull toward the first things you were exposed to because at that time it was the only reality you knew.

    Personally, I hate with an unparalleled passion the demand of anyone - actually other women more so than men - that I try to live up to some insane standard of perfection...and yet because I started out sitting in the car seat being driven past billboards full of airbrushed fiction, I can still very easily fall into the trap of feeling that I`m not what I should be. Personally, I think that rather than blaming the victim and saying women have to be resilient, there should be some kind of effort to counteract the damage or prevent it entirely...Dove`s effort may be small, but if it`s sincere, I say God bless them a

  111. Profile photo of kittycatz
    kittycatz Female 18-29
    100 posts
    October 17, 2006 at 11:56 pm
    *and their efforts.*
  112. Profile photo of ajr2006
    ajr2006 Male 18-29
    943 posts
    October 18, 2006 at 12:52 am
    wow, that was pretty cool
  113. Profile photo of Suicism
    Suicism Male 18-29
    3625 posts
    October 18, 2006 at 1:36 am
    SnToe, you`re familiar! Props.
  114. Profile photo of mcnaial1
    mcnaial1 Male 18-29
    460 posts
    October 18, 2006 at 5:03 am
    I don`t know whether this was shown in America but it was shown in Australia
  115. Profile photo of Will-O-Wisp
    Will-O-Wisp Female 18-29
    458 posts
    October 18, 2006 at 5:32 pm
    How intriguing...
  116. Profile photo of EdwinMango
    EdwinMango Female 13-17
    221 posts
    October 18, 2006 at 6:54 pm
    That`s sad. It makes me feel good though, to know what you have to go through to look like that. She looked fine before everything, but our society is used to the perfect body on every billboard or commercial that we look for that now. Dove has commercials in America with normal women.
  117. Profile photo of Schooler90
    Schooler90 Male 18-29
    598 posts
    October 18, 2006 at 9:48 pm
    um, it was pretty ugly after, looked like a friggin ELF!!!!
  118. Profile photo of new_zeeland_
    new_zeeland_ Male 13-17
    80 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 2:34 am
    sorry, but i`m not too much into evolution, i`m kinda creationist.
    looks don`t evolve. they are created. XP
  119. Profile photo of hunie-bunie1
    hunie-bunie1 Female 13-17
    61 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 6:38 am
    i think.. to sort this all out.. we should get all the photoshop artists in the world.. chain there legs to poles.. give them saws.. say we poisoned thir lunch and the antidote is in a deceased cow..

    oh sorry thats something else i got goin on..

  120. Profile photo of maples
    maples Male 13-17
    1217 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 7:12 am
    whoa. but still dont think that was beauty.
  121. Profile photo of hannah_h
    hannah_h Female 13-17
    155 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 10:11 am
    On 10/16/2006 5:22:37 AM MsYummiSushi wrote: She just looked REALLY evil for some reason..
    I know!!!
    That was pretty cool. I wish it was longer, though.
  122. Profile photo of amphyx
    amphyx Female 13-17
    36 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 3:34 pm
    Its Photoshop cs2 they used, its aroun 150£
  123. Profile photo of ShishKebab
    ShishKebab Female 18-29
    192 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 3:40 pm
    It`s weird to think that the faces we see up on billboards don`t technically exist :-P
  124. Profile photo of clashrocker
    clashrocker Female 13-17
    133 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 5:23 pm
    On 10/17/2006 10:15:26 AM for_serious? wrote: Uhhh...this is gonna sound bad but...she still looked like a trannie after the photoshopping.
    Yeah, talk about a man-jaw.

    She didn`t look a whole lot different afterwards.

  125. Profile photo of Werekitten
    Werekitten Female 18-29
    20 posts
    October 19, 2006 at 7:56 pm
    I would recommend Naomi Woolf`s "The Beauty Myth" to anyone interested in finding out about the causes behind many womens obsession with `beauty` - especially Suicism.

    It`s a really good read, although some of the figures are out of date given that it was written in 1990 - but seeing the way the world and perceptions of beauty has changed it only makes the figures all the more shocking.

    It`s not just one for the girls either, it touches on how the beauty myth affects men, even if it`s just through how it affects women.

    While I have some doubts about the Dove campaign, I think overall it`s more positive than anything else. Some people have critisised how extreme the shop was, but I think the point is that that is what *can* be done.

    And people saying she was ugly before or after, I think you`re kind of missing the point.

  126. Profile photo of moonbaby1o1
    moonbaby1o1 Female 18-29
    1 post
    October 20, 2006 at 3:44 am
    You wanna know the really sad thing, I actually am going to school to do that for a living... make-up for the modeling/movie industry...but I am great with a make-up brush and I wont be a part of the photoshopping...she was way more beautiful before the photoshopped her...her face was much more in proportion and her head looked way more oval...which is what those studies that babies look at beautiful people more came from, people including babies find an oval and proportionate face more pleasing to the eye, that`s why we like to look at beautiful people. That`s what make-up tries to do even in the 1930`s-50`s pictures. It hides the flaws of the face... sadly most people can`t tell that beauty is all an illusion, natural beauty in the sense that we know it is very hard to find, people now don`t think beauty is in flaws anymore...
  127. Profile photo of KittyK
    KittyK Female 18-29
    27 posts
    October 20, 2006 at 3:31 pm
    Not exactly a newsflash. And even with all the modifications, I don`t see the appeal. I personally don`t find myself attracted to a magazine page or a television screen. It`s usually not art, and it certainly isn`t beauty. It`s a business construct with the purpose of getting you to buy something: a product, movie, album, or idea.
  128. Profile photo of ellebee3
    ellebee3 Female 18-29
    1 post
    October 21, 2006 at 2:10 pm
    I`m in school for photography right now. The reason they use attractive people as models is because it takes a lot of time and talent to create a pretty face on photoshop. It can take up to 10 hours to get a face perfectly done for a print campaign.
  129. Profile photo of iNVERTED_
    iNVERTED_ Male 13-17
    53 posts
    October 21, 2006 at 2:28 pm
    Anything that Photoshop can do, The GIMP can do better.
  130. Profile photo of lunani
    lunani Female 18-29
    257 posts
    October 21, 2006 at 7:19 pm
    But still, pretty people really do exist around you and those are who at least I compare myself to.
  131. Profile photo of cotylena
    cotylena Female 13-17
    159 posts
    October 22, 2006 at 2:11 am
    hmmm interesting
  132. Profile photo of psyndrone
    psyndrone Male 30-39
    67 posts
    October 22, 2006 at 12:20 pm
    None of the models look the way they do on posters and such.
  133. Profile photo of 23scadu
    23scadu Male 18-29
    274 posts
    October 23, 2006 at 6:09 pm
    PHOTOSHOPPED!!! :D
  134. Profile photo of homsar42
    homsar42 Female 13-17
    144 posts
    October 23, 2006 at 7:04 pm
    Holy crap. That`s really true.
  135. Profile photo of homsar42
    homsar42 Female 13-17
    144 posts
    October 23, 2006 at 7:05 pm
    Something kind of weird is, I have a picture of myself that would be considered ugly, but it`s my favorite.
  136. Profile photo of Volaverunt
    Volaverunt Male 13-17
    160 posts
    January 1, 2007 at 12:24 am
    She doesn`t even recognize herself!
  137. Profile photo of Hantalia
    Hantalia Female 13-17
    78 posts
    January 1, 2007 at 1:04 am
    Oh my gosh! That`s horrible that they can change a person so much.
  138. Profile photo of xDDitsmee
    xDDitsmee Female 18-29
    266 posts
    January 1, 2007 at 3:22 am
    Oh wow. Thats even cooler the second time around . .
  139. Profile photo of leighgirl
    leighgirl Female 30-39
    5 posts
    January 1, 2007 at 6:02 pm
    Some people have a different idea of beauty. I think the natural look of her was way better than the ending fake look. Too much make up and touch ups make people look plastic or fake.
    Everyone has a different idea of beauty.
  140. Profile photo of leighgirl
    leighgirl Female 30-39
    5 posts
    January 1, 2007 at 6:04 pm
    ops with my facepaint photo on then posting of the overmaking of her make up that seems odd eh. Grin.
    Anyway there we have it. Just wanted to say a bit on the subject.
    I would not want someone to pick me on looks alone but, to see deeper so in ways I am glad I am not perfect and I am not special or what shallows would call pretty I think.
  141. Profile photo of omggilyy
    omggilyy Female 13-17
    576 posts
    January 1, 2007 at 9:04 pm
    talk about brainwash
    -_-
  142. Profile photo of BABYWENDY
    BABYWENDY Female 18-29
    152 posts
    February 1, 2007 at 12:24 am
    amazing.
  143. Profile photo of evilempress1
    evilempress1 Female 13-17
    416 posts
    February 8, 2007 at 6:38 pm
    Scary. just scary. im freaked out about photoshopping now.
  144. Profile photo of evilempress1
    evilempress1 Female 13-17
    416 posts
    February 8, 2007 at 6:40 pm
    Hey whats GIMP?
  145. Profile photo of alice_x
    alice_x Female 18-29
    5140 posts
    January 3, 2008 at 1:00 pm
    i must admit, i had no idea they photoshopped the picture that much :O i thought it was purely natural beauty and good makeup.

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