Balancing Spoon Trick

Submitted by: mistercow 11 years ago in Science
http://undeniablefacts.blogspot.com/2006/09/undeniable-friday-balancing-spoon-trick.html

How to make a spoon balance by aligning its gravitons.
There are 93 comments:
Female 179
It works!!! Just click the teachers info to see all the great examples!
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Male 213
Heh.

You know what`s fake?

JER MOM.

I did that experiment. AND IT WORKS.

I have perfectly balanced spoons.

My next plan?

Aling the gravitons in my penis.

By having sex in a feris wheel for EIGHT years without stopping.

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Female 174
This is real. I saw it on TV.
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Male 431
Reading the comments on here was more interesting than the link itself
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Male 2
He`s not making it worse - just funnier.
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Male 4
Ok I do admit I was pretty vein though when I originally posted that I did not notice the "information for teachers" section

I do think that there are enough common scientific misconceptions / misunderstandings without this guy making it worse

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Male 2
Dan Serena has added a new video that addresses a lot of the comments people have made. This time he uses a plastic spork, and it seems to be balancing on a piece of wood on top of a plastic cup. I don`t see any wires, and you can see through the transparent plastic - so I don`t think it`s green-screen.
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Male 39
you can tell its been edited with green screen or w/e because the movement of the dial on the ammeter is at a much slower fps than the spoon.
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Male 332
wow if you really beleive this is real your pretty drating dumb.
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Male 162
Wow. I`m just amazed at this site. Very well done fake-out.
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Male 142
Ya know what skeptics? Anything is possible.

@LOLBERAL: No affiance dude but don`t you have something better to do than argue with a bunch of teenage fools?

@Teenage Fools: Don`t you have anything better to do than argue with a grown man, who probably has gone through a complete education and probably teaches a class of some sort.

I really don`t see why this is such a big deal, The author of the site can post what ever he wants and he even said it was bs.

Why have I started ref-ing this, I don`t know. It is the weekend I am going back to school on Monday...

-Night all

"There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand binary and those who don`t"

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Male 21
@ PeaceFrog71: You do realize the name of the site we both are browsing is "I Am Bored?"
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Male 245
Phew, someone needs to get out more. ^^
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Male 21
@ wauwa1983x: Was that comment referencing me...? It is very clear to me that this is fake; it`s proven both in that i) the science is complete quackery and ii) there is an "Information for Teachers" link that states directly it`s fake. I`m mostly baffled as to why everyone on this site feels an ardent desire to fervently insult each other. You`d think by some persons` comments that others on this site have butchered their entire family with the femur of their girlfriend while eating their children or something.
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Male 21
Oops, the site cut me off again...

(cont`d)

...fact, right. If you want to learn more, I`d suggest you take a physics class. You could just research relativity, as well, but were you to you wouldn`t get the broader picture. Most places do offer introductory physics classes so you should be able to find one near you. I don`t see how I am a "smartass" as you`d claimed either. I apologize if I`d came off that way I suppose. When a bunch of persons brand each other a "retard," back and forth, while holding two mutually exclusive views obviously one of them isn`t going to look informed at the end of it all, so that`s why it`s generally a bad idea to do so. Instead, it`s much better an idea to love each other. If you`re really within the 30-39 age bracket it`s kind of surprising to me you haven`t yet found out pointless insults are unwise, but I`m not passing judgment on you.

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Female 811
Ha! I don`t know what`s funnier, the fakeness of it all of the fact that people are arguing over it!
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Male 21
k. We don`t use the Newtonian model however. Since Einstein we use relativity, not condescendingly what you`d termed "basic Newtonian physics." Centrifugal force is plainly fictitious and is defined to be a fictitious force. If you`d like to educate yourself on why you`re wrong, here are two links that would probably explain things better than I could.

http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/...

^ why centrifugal force is not a force.

http://archive.ncsa.uiuc.edu/Cyberia/Num...

^ why gravity is not a force.

While it`s great you disagree with Albert Einstein and all, and while you`ve every right to, you kind of come off as insecure and as if you`ve some sort of an inferiority complex when you tell me that I am a smartass and to commit suicide because I`m defending the views of somebody who is, in

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Male 48
I bet the author works for a gas company, trying to get clueless idiots to actually drive hundreds of miles to waste gallons of gas.
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Male 1,354
@LOLBERAL: glib is indeed retarded. Both centrifugal force and gravity are, in fact, forces. They both cause acceleration. force = mass x acceleration. Basic Newtonian physics. You didn`t catch that, didya, smartass? Try it. Go drop yourself off a building.
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Female 157
who cares?! its a fricken spoon! next link!
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Male 1,383
you would look a bit stupid drving around with a spoon sticking out.
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Male 797
This has definitely nothing to do with magnets, an upside down camera and stuff taped on the ceiling!
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Male 263
to clarify, not that he used the string, just that you can repeat the trick yoursel fin front of anyone, using the string.
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Male 263
invisible string: $1.25, or can be mad eyourself by stripping a piece of string to a single strand.

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Male 161
I remember something back a while ago about "magnetic water" that convenced a bunch of people and he took it off the site. It`s hard to tell now adays what`s a joke and what`s really some insaine person or cult or whatever. He explains on the information for teachers page that it is a joke. He`s not trying to convence the world about the increadably false things he blogs about, it`s just humor. For those who have tested ANY of his theorys and it worked, you either have not put everything into account, discovered something truetly increadible, or you are going to be in the hospital soon.
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Male 4
Quote:

BS for sure.
And I agree with RyanF701, "Just because they`re not proven to exist yet doesn`t mean they dont exist.."
Otherwise we would have all been floating around untill gravity was proven.

Although I agree with your premise, gravity hasn`t been proven either.

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Male 46
KMeTG you can`t prove gravitons by looking for them because you cant "see" them, we prove subatomic particles by proving their necessity. Such as the proof for the neutrino. We can see the effects of gravitons and so some people would say that proves them, yet others would explain the effects by other theories that don`t involve gravitons.
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Female 144
the whole site is BS. it`s a joke.
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Male 46
Reading these comments it seems he was right about the lack of critical thinking in our society, way to prove him right retards.
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Female 344
Guys cool it it`s all just in good fun
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Female 231
lol i believed it but didn`t understand it...
i live in a place where people who use long words are always smarter than you...
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Male 2,057
lol
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Male 2,519
"The truth might surprise you".

Indeed.

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Male 161
Oh yeha, spirithound, all he really needs to do is magnitize the spoon, and that works with any permanate magnet attached to the spoon for a long time. It can be baised to one end or another. He could have also just had one magnet higher above the spoon so it would stay upright, but concidering how lightly he touched the spoon, i would say he didn`t need to, and he easilly could have taken several shots of him touching it and cutting all the ones that he tipped too far.
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Male 161
It`s just a drating magnet. This site is full of such bs i can`t even explain.
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Male 21
@ trippyhippy9: Secretus (and perhaps others) have already pointed that out earlier into the thread, so I doubt you`ll get through to many by ingeminating. I could be wrong however.
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Male 559
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Female 2,552
Um..sure.
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Male 21
Oops, I`d accidentally written "gravitron" in that final paragraph; I`d meant to say "graviton." I seem to have mixed up the spelling with other elementary particles e.g. positrons, electrons, negatrons, neutrons et cetera.
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Male 21
"Lolberal - so, in order to prove that gravitons do not exist, we would then have to look at every single subatomic particle of every atom in the universe and then keep track of each atom that has been analyzed. This is highly impracticle but not impossible."

Yes, that`s actually exactly what I was saying. I wasn`t trying to disprove the notion the disproof of gravitons is highly improbable, but rather that proving a negative is impossible.

The elephant example stands regardless of the ubiquity of elephants. The fact that elephants have indeed been proven to exist disproves the nonexistence of elephants and thus disproves a negative; I was more trying to get across that concept by contrast to the concept elephants do not exist. You could just do a "replace" in your favorite word processor of the "elephant" string with "woolly mammoth" if you`d like, but that was not the point.

For the record I agree nobody will ever disprove gravitrons.

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Male 1,265
Lolberal - so, in order to prove that gravitons do not exist, we would then have to look at every single subatomic particle of every atom in the universe and then keep track of each atom that has been analyzed. This is highly impracticle but not impossible.

The problem arises because no-one really knows what a graviton looks like. Let`s not forget we`re still trying to prove it`s existence; would we know it if we found it?

Some negatives can be proved, I`ll give you that. For example, cubic spheres do not exist. But an elephant is a bad example because everyone knows what an elephant is and everyone would know they`ve found an elephant if they happen to find one.

Would you know a graviton when you saw it?

Would I?

The fact remains that while it`s possible to prove some negatives, I don`t believe it`s possible to disprove the existence of gravitons. The presumption would have to be that they just haven`t been found yet.

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Male 239
lol i wish that would be so awesome, but that much driving... with a SPOON attached to the hubcap? you know how retardded that would look?
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Male 21
(cont`d, character limit)

You could however draw the conclusion gilb is vain, or that gilb has an inferiority complex; generally retardation however follows only from conceit and/or vanity as a non sequitur. gilb seems to be to me an intelligent enough person.

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Male 21
(cont`d, site cut me off)

...invalidatead by the proof of a singular "one x," to whatever standards you may hold "proof," for the standards to which proof is held are the standards that determine as their corollary those to which any invalidation is held.

@Guy6870: I`d assume that wasn`t directed towards me, since I`d actually defended the author of the site from gilb what with the "Gauss" capitonym and the claim made with regards to it; presuming what you`d said was directed towards gilb I don`t think gilb is "seriously retarded" for sharing knowledge with forum members who don`t possess the knowledge in question. Certainly there was a bit of "showing off" on gilb`s part, for to show off implies that you`re insinuating your superiority to a party or parties, and he`d indeed called Serena retarded (the implication being by comparison to him), but I don`t think this makes him retarded.

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Male 21
(cont`d, character limit)

However, the statement "elephants do not exist" is a much more difficult positive to state with surety, for no demarcations exist, and the statement covers the breadth of the entire universe. Thereby, what would have to be covered under our ambit of observation would be the entire universe, for a lack of demarcation is synonymous with a demarcation of everything or infinity. If this were possible, and no elephants were sighted, we could indeed prove elephants` nonexistence, but since the ambit of our observation is insular by comparison to an ambit of the entire universe as it is limited to what we`ve empirically witnessed, we can`t, for without the knowledge the authority with which the claim is made is not genuine. The knowledge is absent; thus is the authority. There of course could be an elephant existing; were one sighted, then the initial claim of the elephants` nonexistence would be invalidated, for an "all not x" claim is invalida

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Male 142
Wow don`t get worked up over it. I thought it was a pretty cool camera trick. if you really think you can make yourself seem smart by posting how much the site is bs you are seriously retarded.
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Male 21
@ KMetG: That`s a myth; within the constraints of formal logic it`s possible to prove a negative, but the contrary is widely assumed. I`d object firstly to your statement on the grounds "negatives" do not exist; I`m going to go all Wittgenstein on you for a moment here, and point out it`s a language problem. That is, proving the nonexistence of something is both paraphrased as and synonymous with proving something exists in place of another thing. Even nothing is something, for things are individuated from one another based on their constitution, and a vacuum can indeed be distinguished from something else; an absence of things is what distinguishes its constitution and individuates it from other things. Moreover, every negative entails by logical necessity a positive; ergo if we have the statement... say, "elephants do not exist in my backyard," we would demarcate the backyard, observe elephants do not inhabit it and thus would have proven a negative.
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Male 21
@ gilb: Gauss is a capitonym. "gauss" is a physical unit of magnetic fluctuation that can be expressed as 1Mx/cm^2. This is what you`re thinking of; on the other hand, "Gauss" refers to Karl Friedrich Gauss, eponymous with the unit. I`d think it likely Serena used the term "Gauss" as it evokes imagery, based on its connotations, of the magnetism with which Gauss is associated. Had he meant to use the physical unit 1Mx/cm^2 he`d have instead uncapitalized.
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Male 29
watch carefuly than you`ll realise that spoon is places on the surface upside-down. there is a magnet on ceiling and he reachs it to place the spoon. you can realise that from the position of the hand and light. think how you would use your hands when you are putting a spoon on a table. this is a really simple thing everyone may done that.
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Male 598
Um, ELECTRO MAGNET, DUH!!!!
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Male 68
This prank will end up killing someone. Way to go, Dan Serena.
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Male 1,866
if that stupid explanation was true, couldn`t we some how figure out a way to fly?
that guy is a douche. why does he want to put so much effort into tricking people? doesn`t he waste his own time too?
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Male 4
What Bollocks
A) Neither "Centrifugal Force" nor gravity are forces
B) Gravitons are THEORY we do not know any way to exploit that nor make any certain points about it because they might not even exist so we cannot say if an electron has 3 gravitons or if a proton has 5500 gravitons
C) Why the hell mention Gauss when talking about particles with ZERO charge
Gauss is unit of magnetic induction

So it`s either that this guy has read the theory of quantum gravitation and is seriously retarded or knows it`s bollocks and wrote it because he wants to laugh at people who attach spoons on their car wheels

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Male 251
Try clicking "Information for Teachers" on their site some time.
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Male 5
Woot45:
I don`t think the site ever made any claims about flamingos whatsoever. The flamingos eating shrimp thing is apparently true - check http://www.straightdope.com/columns/0105... - but Dan never said it. He has in fact never posted the word "flamingo" on his blog, to date.

reb0rn4never: just... walk away

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Male 438
It`s done with an upsidedown magnet and a green screen.
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Female 1,398
this is the same site that said that flamingos are pink because they eat shrimp. And the magnetic water crap. These people are retards.
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Male 555
THIS GUY IS TRYING TO WASTE MY PRECIOUS GASOLINE OVER A DAMN SPOON!
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Male 217
Spirithound: the `bowl` of the spoon was negatively charged.

Everyone else, look at the information for teachers. It`s a noble cause :D And sadly, true.

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Female 131
Guys guys, calm down.

The website is a joke.

Click on the "Letter to Teachers" link.

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Male 118
i might try the road trip to nevada or texas, how far is it from the west midlands in england?
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Male 1,725
read the comments they xplain how fake it really is
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Female 454
Go spoon, Go spoon, get busy, uh-huh, work it!...

Yeah, that sucked

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Male 2,605
One can tell by the angle of his visible hand that his body is positioned to allow his other unseen hand to manipulate the magnet underneath the table. Towards the latter part of the clip, notice how his hand comes down more freely and with his thumb turned the other way, corresponding to the magnet no longer being manipulated (spoon spins but stays in the same spot).

The magnet is considerably strong. The reason why the spoon doesn`t tip over is because the magnet`s pull is centered on the bottom of the spoon. My biology instructor passed around some small (about the size of a watch battery) magnets that had considerable pull to them. Notice how the surface the spoon is being pulled on is thin (it wobbles) enough for the magnet to pull things through.

All in all the whole website is bullsh*t. I`d love to see Mythbusters debunk his stuff, but then Serena would succeed in his goal (wasting other people`s time).

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Male 141
"The guy is crazy, he goes about posting stuff that is just believable that it might work, but it dosen`t. Check out what he says about the leafblower - He says that the vacuum cleaner was created when the leafblower was plugged in backwords."

You`re right, you cannot plugg in an electrical deice such as a leafblower in backwards.

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Female 529
I smell bullpoo.
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Male 1,265
The method of getting the spoon to balance is almost believable, but trying to explain gravitons ran me in circles.

I was never good at chemistry or physics.

Oh and, gravitons may not have been proven to exist, but that doesn`t mean they don`t. Theoretically speaking, it`s impossible to prove something doesn`t exist.

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Female 415
sounds like to much damn trouble to me. PLus how the hell did he know to tape a spoon to his hubcap??
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Male 230
OMG this is the same site that said "You may not know this, but shrimp are actually baby lobsters!" Bull Crap!!!!
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Male 273
haha i believed it.
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Male 814
If it was done with magnets, how did only the end of the spoon get attracted to the table?
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Male 1,478
Oooooooh. That video was done with magnets, this guy just wants you to drive 500 miles with spoons on your hubcaps.
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Male 1,237
OMG HAX
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Male 1,354
^^yup. triple ghey-ner
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Male 1,385
llllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Male 1,265
So this idiot has a blog just to feel smart by pointing out how "dumb" everybody is?

Meh.

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Male 146
DoseOfLos said...

I tried this and it did not work. I even drove for 700 miles. This is clearly another lie.

Haha.

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Male 2,372
From the website....

"The site is a statement on the sorry state of critical thinking in our culture."

Amen to that!

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Male 888
Good excuse for a road trip!
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Male 12
For people who take that site seriously ;

Click on the "Information for teachers" link.

Funny site though, I hope that guy in the comments didn`t really drive 700 miles, but that was just a joke.

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Male 99
BS for sure.
And I agree with RyanF701, "Just because they`re not proven to exist yet doesn`t mean they dont exist.."
Otherwise we would have all been floating around untill gravity was proven.
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Male 139
^Some Crazy Comments^
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Male 295
The guy is crazy, he goes about posting stuff that is just believable that it might work, but it dosen`t. Check out what he says about the leafblower - He says that the vacuum cleaner was created when the leafblower was plugged in backwords.
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Male 200
BS
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Male 2,486
Just because they`re not proven to exist yet doesn`t mean they dont exist..

A bit too much effort to make a spoon wobble around imo

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Male 65
No, it`s not real. Gravitons haven`t been proven to exist.
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Male 4,431
If that were true, every time you took off your hubcap, it`d stand there balancing for you, just as happy as could be. :-) I like the specifics, though, "Oh, don`t back up or else you`ll have to go forward an extra thrity miles for each foot in reverse" etc. Funny, though, and nice to get the brain going this early in the morning. :-)
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Male 814
I nominate mistercow to test it out.
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Male 28
Wow thats crazy someone should try it and tell me if its real.
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Male 606
u sure its not real...call me a sucker but i thought it was...
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Male 536
Wow, I actually thought it was real until I started reading the "in-depth analysis" part.
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Male 388
i hope everyone realizes that its not real.
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Male 5
Link: Balancing Spoon Trick [Rate Link] - How to make a spoon balance by aligning its gravitons.
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