There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons

Submitted by: masterdavid 11 years ago in Funny
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

Just to clear things up.
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Female 579
I don`t care if it`s conspiracy or not. I`m here for the whole "hidden message omg" or "Pictures in wwebdingz leik OMFG". They`re fun to look at.
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Male 1
Wow darkplanet, you are an idiot. Theories aside, I have never seen somebody read a whole article and miss the point as thoroughly as you just did.
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Female 32
Haven`t anyone thought of that, though? A government will kill thousands of people but not a college student who happened to know about it? SOunds like a prank I would have thought of.
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Female 19
Interesting conspiracy theory.. Not too impreesed with the whole "it can`t be true, because I said so" part though. Oh well.
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Female 1,572
for once I agree with Maddox
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Female 19
It made me laugh. I especially liked the Glenn Beck dollar.

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Male 16
"have you noticed all of the canadians believe loose change".

WOW that`s a funny statement. You might want to consider the reasons for that and the global community at large having valid questions revolving around 9/11. You have to ask yourself why that is. The truth of the matter is that this has nothing to do with you the average American citizen but the world at large has serious issues with a small cabal of corrupt leaders that had a hand in the events leading up to 9/11. It is this same small group who have used those events as an excuse to set policy and plunder the middle east. What was brilliant about the make up of 9/11 is its horrific nature. Playing on good old American Patriotism this small cabal created a situation where NO ONE could possibly question government involvement. And worse yet, anyone who had legitimate questions would be called "anti-american" or a tinfoil hat wearer. The sheep (many of them here apparently) would then fall in line.

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Male 50
Brainwashed?? are you kidding me? saying American`s are brainwashed is like saying that Canadians s...<click> "hello my baby, hello my darling..."

WTF??

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Male 40
Very nice Sicker. Of course America is brainwashed because some people in America don`t understand 100% of everything that occured in history. BTW, isn`t it the Canadian government that has banned portions of the Bible because it they considered it "hate speech" against homosexuals? Couldn`t I consider that to be brain-washing as well?
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Male 38
have you noticed all of the canadians believe loose change
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Female 552
lmao glenn beck is an a s s hole
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Female 1,033
too much to read. blah blah blah
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Male 2,486
NUH UH ITS LYING, THE LOCH NESS MONSTER HIRED THE TERRORISTS TO DRIVE FLYING BAGPIPES INTO THE TOWERS, BUT WHEN THEY COULDN`T FIND BAGPIPES PLAID ENOUGH THEY DECIDED TO USE AIRPLANES.
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Female 325
actually, Indigo_M, i lived in the US for about six years, in total. four of that in new york city. i know quite a bit about the US. what do you know about it? the american public is brain-washed. look at your history books and then compare that with the facts from other countries.

big lie #1: america won the war of 1812.

if that`s true, why am i canadian?

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Male 60
To all the Amricans who are supicious of their own goverment, here is a famous quote from Southpark:

"This is America, and if you don`t like it, you can get out."

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Male 373
yep, thats the best rebuttal I`ve ever heard... beats an hour and a half of solid evidence any day."


you mean solid* right?

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Male 127
"my sarcasm detector goin of the charts!" "oh a sarcasm detector, that`s a REAL useful invention" *explodes*
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Male 919
I hate Maddox....
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Male 3
There is no conspiracy. Eat my poo, losers.

yep, thats the best rebuttal I`ve ever heard... beats an hour and a half of solid evidence any day.
love the way you compare it with folding banknotes and the like - clever....

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Female 2,552
Lol, so true.
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Male 373
i know, the guy who runs it is a dumbass.
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Male 372
OMG...Darkplanet`s links are some of the funniest sh*t ever. Anyone who can believe that half-assed bullsh*t without forgetting to breathe because of stupidity should be considered a major mircale. How anyone can not see the inherent bullsh*t and disbelieve the proofs offered by the debunking articles is on par with literal creationists as far as stupidity goes.

READ THE POPULAR MECHANICS ARTICLE.

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Male 1,141
i love this lol
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Male 578
ever read.
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Male 578
To all those trying to convince conspiracy believers otherwise, you`re wasting your time. You can`t and you won`t. That`s why I don`t even bother anymore. There`s a line between being open-minded and being paranoid. Personally, I think these people just watch too many movies and have become lost somewhere between fiction and reality. Just look at BigBonny`s comment on the first page. For now, I think it`s relatively harmless, but still. I also don`t like the condescending and patronizing tone of most conspiracy believers. That kind of attitude is just as childish as typing in all caps and calling someone a nutjob. As for Maddox, although I do agree with him most of the time, I think he`s overrated. He just makes points that any person with common sense would be able to. The only difference is that he has a website to do it at and he`s mean about it. And I have questioned his "commen sense" before. Just read his article on Christopher Reeve. It`s one of stupidest things I`ve e
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Male 354
sicker, you`re only proving the stereotype that Canadians don`t know a thing about America.
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Female 325
children, your president is a simple-minded idiot. there`s no argument to be had. The Greatest Country in the WORLD! (TM) cannot possibly be defended, in this case. again, bear in mind that your bickering is over the loss of thousands of lives.. could you try to be a little more f*cking respectful about that?

i give up. for those of you who would defend the US, let me say this -- The Greatest Country in the WORLD! (TM) has been under more suspicion than any other country in the world, for various conspiracies; take Watergate. you look at that as history now, but in the 70s, it was considered a conspiracy. now it`s a fact.

the US government is full of pigs.

anyone who would defend those old, senile, money-grabbing bastards is also a pig.

use your brains, you little cheese-eaters. 9/11 could have been prevented and it was NOT. that`s all the proof in the world that anyone needs.

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Female 17
well i just looked at the pictures
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Male 373
ha ha ha dennis... your funny man, that site of yours is pretty hot man
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Male 373
Sooo yur lame ass wont tell me if dennisdread means anything to you? Figures...


loser.

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Male 236
lol i liked when he folded the money and then wrote on it.
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Male 16
I`m done with you Tatervent. Lost cause generation. Good day and good luck. http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smoki...
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Male 373
I just read your profile... your candian?? No wonder you so easily accept the united states being mass murders.
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Male 373
and by the way, does the name dennisdread mean anything to you?
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Male 373
dark... shut the hell up, you are a disgrace to EVERY life lost in the attacks. You are a complete disgrace not only to them but also to the united states of america. Mabey one day when your about 80 youll begin to realize how foolish you are, but its even worse... your not just foolish, you are beliving something easily proven wrong that suggest the US goverment is a mass murdering orginization. You think the us goverment is the bad guy over a group who openly admits there goal is to kill me, you, and any other american. The goverment could NOT pull this off, this would require the help of 100s and 100s of people, and you expect me to belive that not one would come out and disagree with it? You want me to belive that everyone in the united states goverment has no problem with mass murder? Its not going to happen... Its bad enough that you have been warped to belive this... and you blame the rest of us with a brain for beliving the obvious facts... shut.the.hell.up immortal tecnique.
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Male 127
i like how one of the questions on here is "if the government is okay with killing 3,000 people, why not kill this kid?!?!" wow, talk about pretty f*cking stupid questions... might as well ask, "you know what would make 9/11 CT`s be more active?" wow, if anything this makes me believe that it`s a conspiracy even more! yo man, i like how WTC 7 got down...
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Male 292
What I saw was a movie fueled on emotion that might have gotten carried away. Some points were good any others were very poor which discredited it. but the pentagon scene I found it hard to dismiss so I researched that which made it harder to dismiss... But even if it was a conspiracy the government had a whole team of psychologists to help with the brainwashing part. So if they wanted to they could probably pull it off so I won`t put it past them. Also it could be pulled off due to no one wanting to accept that our gov`t could do something like that. I mean most people wouldn`t have the backbone to stand against it anyways
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Male 16
Sigh...it`s so sad to see a generation with such promise being sucked dry of all intelligence and capability for independent critical thought. Enjoy your FOX news reality Tatervent. Maybe one day you`ll actually lift a finger to explore a world which is at this point beyond your grasp. Truth is truth my friend and it has a way of outlasting the short-term lies.

I hope that you find your feet before you raise another generation of ignorant sheep. And now, I leave it to you to get in your coveted “last word”. Enjoy your ignorance while it lasts. That link again (just in case you wake up one day) ;) http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smoki...

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Male 373
ok im going to leave you to your belif the the american goverment is a bunch of mass murders... mabey if you get bored you can go search for area 51?
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Male 373
"The only one in need of the straight jacket here is people like yourself, so firmly planted in the depths of denial that they can’t even will themselves to see the truth when it is placed soundly in their lap. "

ok you cannot be serious... how hypocritical can you get? Really why is your brain so easily transformed...


dude did you know no mans ever been on the moon? It was all setup...


as ive said... get a life.

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Male 15
i dont care about whaqt this guy has to say honestly i think the gov new more than they let on but ot was deffinately terrorist that did the bombings at least i think
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Male 16
Tatervent,

I say "VALID" news stories and sourced links to factual data and information because that is exactly what this link is all about; http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smoki... .Anyone who actually clicks on the provided link and explores for more than 2 seconds (your average teenagers attention span) will become acutely aware of what I`m saying. These aren’t “conspiracy nut jobs”, these links encompass reports from CNN, NBC, FOX and other reputable news agencies as well as sourced 9/11 investigative commission reports. Like I said, open your brain to reality you poor deluded child.

The only one in need of the straight jacket here is people like yourself, so firmly planted in the depths of denial that they can’t even will themselves to see the truth when it is placed soundly in their lap.

Male 373
nah they changed it from an oval to a circle or some crap...
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Female 73
I think the usual shape of a plane explosion would be pretty easy to figure out by looking atthe past. Its not the first time a plane has crashed into a building... is it?

I might be totally wrong, though. :|

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Male 373
""ha ha ha the last link i posted comlpletley destroys loose change part 2"

Focusing on `Loose Change` still are we? Well if that`s all you can hold on to without looking at the massive body of valid and confirmed material elsewhere then you are truely lost my friend.

What are you anyway? 12 years old? Did mommy and daddy raise you to be a good sheeple repub? "Don`t question the president Tetervent! That`s just not American.". "

mabey you didint notice but this whole thing is about something talking about loose change, sorry for staying on topic.

may I ask wtf you are? Someone who belived everything that has a conspiracy theroy involved thrown at him? Your liek one of those people whos going to end up in a cult.

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Male 373
the pentagon part was the only slightly convining part to me, and thats because I never really resarched that... the others which I have researched i could easily see there bull. ike the missel it fired? Wth are they watching? I see a plane hitting a building and causeing an explosion... thats what happens... and how the hell would they know exactly what shape the explosion would be?
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Male 373
so where did you gather anythign that had anything to do with bush in here?

stop saying facts are facts when all this consipiacy nonsense is fictonal... and if youd watch that video it shows you exactly how they us lame tactics to make it more convincing, and 90% of what they say is not in the full.

Im not bothering with that link... it wont prove anything to me as im not a loser who cant accept reality and wants to make a buch of crap up. Get a life.

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Female 73
I dunno.

I didn`t watch all of loose change.

But I did think it was p[retty weird about the plane leaving a hole in the pentagone.. not even scratching the grass.

I`m undecided about the whole thing.
Can somebody explain the whole pentagon aspect for me please?

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Male 16
"ha ha ha the last link i posted comlpletley destroys loose change part 2"

Focusing on `Loose Change` still are we? Well if that`s all you can hold on to without looking at the massive body of valid and confirmed material elsewhere then you are truely lost my friend.

What are you anyway? 12 years old? Did mommy and daddy raise you to be a good sheeple repub? "Don`t question the president Tetervent! That`s just not American.".

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Male 16
"Conspiracy bull poo" is a favorite catch phrase right-wing fanatics evoke whenever they don`t want to deal with the truth. Facts are facts Tatervent, you need to take off your tinfoil, bushworshiping, sheeple head hat and awaken that teeny, tiny brain of yours. Avoiding valid issues by instead diverting attention and talking about "jewelry" and "magical folding bills" is just plain desperate. `Loose Change` is one movie out of hundreds (and it`s not even the best of the bunch) that focus on the many unanswered 9/11 questions. Being patriotic is one thing but being ignorant of the facts because you can`t face the truth is simply irresponsible. Again have an independent brain and try to break free of your "conditioning": READ THE LINK YOU IGNORANT TWIT! http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smoki...
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Male 373
ha ha ha the last link i posted comlpletley destroys loose change part 2
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Male 16
Avoiding valid issues by instead diverting attention and talking about "jewelry" and "magical folding bills" is just plain desperate. `Loose Change` is one movie out of hundreds (and it`s not even the best of the bunch) that focus on the many unanswered 9/11 questions. Being patriotic is one thing but being ignorant of the facts because you can`t face the truth is simply irresponsible. Again have an independent brain and try to break free of your "conditioning": http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smoki...
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Male 373
Tatervent; Before you open your trap again and spew completely unfounded garbage, try opening your small brainwashed mind, zip your ignorant lip and actually try reading for a change. You need to stop recycling the same old spin garbage and re-educate yourself. If you can come away from the following sources without a single question in your pea sized brain then you`ve got serious issues:"


how hypocritical is that? unfounded garbage? brainwashed? thats exaclty what this conspiracy bullpoo is, like i said get a clue. Your like a rebel looking for a cause, there is absolutley NO evidence that this was caused by the US goverment that cant be easily proven wrong. Shut the hell up you gullible piece of poo

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Male 373
p.s. i just watched loos change, almost everything he says can be proved wrong, is BS, or is just him saying it with no real facts.

Like he talks about a bunch of burning building that burned for hours and didint fall, yet the towers did... but fails to mention how the others werent hit by a plane

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Male 16
Tatervent; Before you open your trap again and spew completely unfounded garbage, try opening your small brainwashed mind, zip your ignorant lip and actually try reading for a change. You need to stop recycling the same old spin garbage and re-educate yourself. If you can come away from the following sources without a single question in your pea sized brain then you`ve got serious issues: http://www.911review.com/pm/markup/index... , http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smoki... , http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html
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Male 373
they didint use to censor me
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Male 2,958
-and since when are there censors?-

Since as long (at leat) as I`ve been a member.

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Male 373
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Male 373
and since when are there censors?
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Male 373
anyone here who belives the crap come on, get your head out of your ass and use some common sense. Yeah, terrorists who have been tryign to attack as for ever finally get us good... in a way we wouldnt expect

thats so freaking hard to belive i know. Get a drating clue.

And no you cant say people who belive the news are close minded, wtf?!?! So we HAVE TO belive some pooty consipiacy fictional crap over common sense and facts? Give me a break...

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Male 38
hah thats great
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Male 281
Actually, since I`m God, I know it was a conspiracy, as most things are. It wasn`t a conspiracy like the silly one in "Loose Change", but it was a conspiracy...just not in the way you think it.
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Male 198
What I find ironic about the Popular Mechanics article is that everyone they got their information from was/is connected is some way to the government investigation of 9/11. Pop Mechanics pulled the same bullsh*t when they tried to debunk the Roswell conspriracy theories. As far as I`m concerned, they haven`t debunked jack. It`s just a bunch of talking heads for the gov. trying to tell you what to think.
As for Maddox, it`s pretty obvious he`s trying to appeal to those who have a juvenile intellect. Big text? Bad cartoons? Check. Immature accusations and put-downs? Check. Actual, physical, documented proof? Oops, That seems to be missing!
I`m gonna have to watch that Loose Change video and see it THEY offer any proof.
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Female 10
It was really Tony Blair who did it..
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My argument to the `this man is still alive` thing is that, if him and his family `disappeared` or if anything bad happened to them, that would draw attention to the government.. wouldn`t it?
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Male 143
The point with Maddox is that he brings the issue down to the level of the average internet user- someone who doesn`t have the attention span or vocabulary to read a popular mechanics article. He acts obnoxious to appeal to those people. Although I don`t always agree with what he says, I honestly think he`s one of the smartest people on the internet.
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Female 101
God bless the IAB boards.
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Male 101
maddox is one of the only people taht if i ever met them i would rip his nutz off and stuff them down his throught.
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Male 16
There is simply too much evidence pointing to a corrupt, agenda driven administration here dropping the ball. The 9/11 truth movement is bigger than it has ever been and the closer it gets to the mainstream the more you will hear people like Maddox screaming about how wrong we all are. God Bless America? Maybe after you repent for your sins.
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Male 16
LMAO… Does this Maddox guy think he can rewrite literally thousands of contrary facts WITH REALLY BIG TEXT, poorly drawn cartoons and that stupid folding bill garbage? This nutjob even references the now completely deconstructed and disputed ‘Popular Mechanics’ article which you can have torn apart before your very eyes here: http://www.911review.com/pm/markup/index... . You people have to understand that your ignorance is hurting not only your country but the world at large. Maddox needs to wrap his small mind around this list of FACTS from VALID and sourced news resources regarding 9/11: http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/911smoki... . Another clearing house with thorough breakdowns of all the data from 9/11 can be found here: http://911research.wtc7.net/index.h
Male 16
Honestly, how can one say that a whistleblower from such a conspiracy would be believed, look at this thread. To silence whistleblowers, you need not kill them, just discredit them with easily debunked arguments. People now dismiss conspiracy theorists as being the tin-foil hat crowd, and nothing else. No one who tries to debunk `the` conspiracy theory, of which there are many, tries to debunk the solid facts. Such as the FEMA report which suggested, if not outright said, that most of the planes` fuel would have burned away in a few minutes, and caused the original giant fireballs. Most `debunkers` focus on the bs missile and non commercial aircraft arguments. I don`t believe either the official story or loose change, I merely think that there is more to it than government says. I just wish that people wouldn`t assume that those who question the official story believe all of the arguments given against the official story. I dislike both Reps. and Dems. Two-party systems are not good.
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Male 245
Christ...your all a bunch of liberals...
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Male 50
Were the events that occured on Sept. 11 a conspiracy? No! The gentleman mentioned that if it were, the creators of the "Loose Change" film, and any other similiar film, would be delt with. I`m not sure the government would go to such an extreme for the simple fact that the ideas included in such theories are absurd! I agree that our political leaders failed, but do I think they have the intelligence to put together such a elaborate plan? NO! The thought of planting enough explosives in the three buildings that fell that day, without ANYONE noticing, is insane.

Now, with all that being said... GOD BLESS USA AND IT`S CITIZENS! Even with the flaws of our country, we are still the greatest!!

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Male 737
Holy crap. Loose Change got ripped to shreds.
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Male 951
starsprklz, flippz et al: thanks but I stopped bothering (here anyway)...you should too. Wasting one`s time arguing with willfully ignorant morons, most of whom likely use MySpace as the main source of info for their world view, would be the real lack of common sense. Anyway, from them, those those who have actually seen LC: probably 1 in 10. Those who have actually read the so-called debunking articles (beyond Maddox`s own irrelevant ranting): 0 in 10.

For those with enough functioning grey matter to want to look into truth for themselves, there are many other good sources for that...all too many. LC by itself just scratches the surface...a well-made summary but that`s all.

Anyway, this is all fortunately academic for me since I don`t live near that hole of a country (thank heaven). But from the mind-numbing stupidity of the majority of posts here, the US deserves everything it`s gotten from its govt, and everything it`s still going to get.

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Male 97
Maddox knows.

Even if this is something painfully obvious.

BTW, I can fold a $5 bill to look like my... never mind.

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Female 325
to the people mocking the pro-loose change posts by saying things like, "I can`t believe you swallowed that! I can`t believe you believe that!" take a moment and wonder to yourself if people think the same thing about your opinions on the same subject.

again: i`m not for or against the conspiracy theory. i`m just saying there are some serious holes in what the government has said and done regarding 9/11 and since i was there and saw those people jumping from those buildings only to smash to pieces on the ground, i think you should take a moment to consider the fact that your bickering is about your view of the loss of thousands of f*cking lives.

the point is, the government screwed up. whether they covered up their involvment in 9/11 or their mishandling of the situation, the point is the same: the american government fumbled f*cking big time.

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Male 1,725
wow i saw the real loose change vid
and honestly

i believe it

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Male 132
Alphabet of Manliness was amazing, I have read every one of Maddox`s articles and... that`s all that needs to be said.
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Female 706
The comments are just as good as the post!
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Male 373
ha ha ha ha ha ha people think the US did 9/11... thats not being open minded, that would be someone who is desperate to end up in a i told ya so situation... fools.
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Male 713
Why would the government crash into the world trade centers? I think if the government wanted to stage a terrorist attack theyd crash it into a powerplant or two instead..
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Female 76
Not really. Look at past conspiracies, they probably dont care about being sloppy. Especially if they are actually in cahoots with certain tyrants in the mideast, they`re not the only ones with hands in it. It takes a LOT of people to contrive such huge conspiracies, and the more people there are, the more room for error there is. Especially if you consider most people are just given a few small tasks inside the whole thing and the majority of them are probably NOT told the big picture/big plan. So less people to leak about it also. And lmao the government would NEVER admit to tyranny - simply to save them the inconvenience of an uprising. And they DID try to hide it very well (probably in their opinion). But the thing is, there`s a lot of who are not stupid anymore either ;)

Just some ideas. No one is right or wrong. But like I said before, one thing we DO know is that we have been lied to on multiple occasions. That`s enough to question (which is all the film does).

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Male 1,406
I don`t think the government would do a sloppy job if it was doing a conspiracy. Either it`s going to admit it`s a totalatarianist power or it will try to hide it very well, in my eyes. And if it`s going to make such a huge step as this, it would cover it up a lot better. Unless you blame the whole thing on Bush.
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Female 76
And as for the government not being able to stop a leak - the government is NOT perfect.. even in the video there are SO many sloppy jobs done in handling the conspiracy if it were to be true.

The government can only cover it`s tracks so much. And besides that, it probably doesn`t care about being sloppy. It takes on the form of a sociopath - in this case, psychopath - and cares not of other`s well being and thoughts. As long as they have the money and power, anybody can say anything and they wont shed a tear. It`s not until everyone bans together as a country to question them.. even overthrow them.. that they might flinch. Even THEN, they`d probably just kill us all off in one big slam and that would be that. No biggie to them. Seriously...

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Female 76
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The point is, our government IS one of the slimiest out there and to COMPLETELY disregard the US Federal Government as a suspect for what happened at 9-11 is VERY naive of our people.

But they`ve got us all living in enough fear that if we question the government, we`ll be labeled as terrorists ourselves. Sheep we are, sheep we be.

The guy is only giving a load of evidence in defense of the idea that the US government had SOMETHING to do with the attacks. Just look at it as a court case, and he`s just playing the prosecutor. Big deal.

But to completely disregard any of his information because some internet dude makes a laughable post giving so called reasoning as to why the filmmaker`s theories are false is ludicrous. Same as disregarding Maddox just because.

After examining both sides, it`s still quite apparent that there are lies being told to us no matter what you believe. Period. And that should be enough to make you question.

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Female 76
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Female 76
I`m definitely feeling you fk, impact, flipz and others here. Honestly, EVERYTHING is a theory out there. There is no such thing as `fact`. The guy making the video isnt saying "THIS IS THE TRUTH" he`s just offering possibilities. This Maddox guy whoever he is is using very poor `evidence` to debunk the film-makers theories. First off, there are TONS of people out there who right BOOKS and make docum.s of conspiracy theories. There are groups, there are cults, there are plenty of people out there who study our governments VERY dirty record of screwing our own people over and lying to us. Sooo why doesn`t the government kill all of those people `revealing the truth`? The same reason they dont bother with this kid making the video. They rely on people laughing at them for questioning authority. Freedom of speech - killing those who speak out would only make the government seem more suspicious. Hence the meninblack haha. The point is, our government IS one of the slimiest
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Male 1,406
Hm, he does have a point. If the government was able to cause such a huge conspiracy, how could it not be able to stop this leak?
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Male 111
The Conspiracy is bullpoo. If your stupid enough to believe it, its your loss.
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Male 38
[quote]On 7/29/2006 3:03:36 PM 5Cats wrote: Pentagon video? What about the 2 other videos the Feds confiscated? Why not release those? Now that would be something![/quote]

How do you know the feds confiscated 2 other videos. Just because it says so on loose change doesn`t mean it is true

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Male 40,277
The Popular Mechanics "debunking" is just a joke! They don`t even come close to answering the real questions. Heck they don`t even answer the questions they try to answer.
Pentagon video? What about the 2 other videos the Feds confiscated? Why not release those? Now that would be something!
I certianly don`t believe everything in Loose Change BUT I sure don`t believe the Government`s "Official Story".
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Male 38
[quote]On 7/29/2006 1:57:04 PM Papapimpin wrote: There was no debris at the pentagon. No 747 wings.[/quote]

There probably weren`t any 747`s wings at the pentagon because a 757 crashed into it.

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Male 63
I love how you guys completely dismiss theories, because their are inaccuracys in the film. If you are going to say that it is bull$hit, because the filmmakers had an error or two in reporting is bogus, youd therefor have to dismiss the governments claims by an even larger degree, because there were way too many anomolies in their "findings"(doings?) You also act like we (non gov`t believers) completely base our judgments on Loose Change. I hadn`t seen the video until long after i was researching the events that took place. BUILDINGS DONT JUST COLLAPSE FROM FIRE! Unless Larry Silverstein decides to "Pull It" Go watch Fox News some more people. You`re all nothing but dirty bags in the vacuum cleaner of propaganda.
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Male 889
The fact that he`s alive refutes a conspiracy?

This refutation is useless..dont even get me started on his analysis of the $20 bill.

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Female 138
That twenty Dollar thing has to be one of the stupidest thing ever. Once my friend showed it to me and I asked, "Cool, can I see it." I then ripped it in to little pieces. And said," Another clue! Its ash of all the people who risked their lives and died, you jacka$$."
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Male 1,882
"i will listen to the non-conspirist and the ones with the conspiracy theories, and then i make my own conclusion."

Yes. You`d rather do that than actually look at the facts. You`d rather just listen to some opinions and pick one that best suits you.

You do realize that the person who "exposed" the "evidence" is some college student using chicken wire to make a replica of the steel frame of the WTC. How in the hell chicken wire can properly represent the steel frame of a skyscraper is beyond me, but he`s a college student. He knows everything. I mean, a college student can easily discover such a conspiracy despite CIA leaks and actual physics professors and other well-qualified people hasn`t uncovered.

You are kidding me, right?

There is no conspiracy. You can fight it all you want, but you have nothing to dispute the Pentagon`s release of the video tape, the physical evidence from the planes, and the people who made phone calls from the plane who

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Male 1,745
I don`t believe loose change nor the official government line 100%. I don`t think it`s healthy to take an either/or line of reasoning. Information should be treated the same way as food. You wouldn`t eat up just anything put in front of you! The same (if not more) care you give to your stomach should be given to your mind.

It`s always better to come up with the right questions than to come up with the right answers. Take the two extremes that are presented in either/or scenarios and the truth is somewhere between them. 9/11 was not orchestrated 100% by "internal" elements nor afghanistan cave dwellers. It`s foolish to believe either of those.

"Who has benefitted the most?" and "who has lost the most?" as a result of 9/11 are good starting questions to think about.

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Male 1,882
The idea of a liberal claiming 9/11 was set up by Bush seems to conflict with their "bush sux lolz" slogans.
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Male 528
Not taking sides, some times the conspiracies are much more convincing then the "facts". I`m speaking off the rebuttles in Maddoxs page. You dont ask gov officials about things like this. There was no debris at the pentagon. No 747 wings. Had to take sides.
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Female 20
Thank you for this.
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Female 169
Its funny, every one who took "loose change" as the truth is spazzing on this board, trying to prove that bull poo to be right.
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Male 66
I am just going to go ahead and say this:
Would you believe the people who were actually there, or someone who runs a web site and complains about the world (there is a lot to complain about)?
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Female 106
i love this guy and lets just day america sux ass hxc
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Male 354
Finally, some sense posted on this site.
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Male 332
fk your an idiot loose change has so many facts completly wrong.
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Male 332
finally someone on the internet who doesnt beleive loose change.
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Male 38
i have also seen the loose change video and you don`t have to be a rocket scientist to realise that it is b*llocks and the facts are untrue
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Male 63
beanbag, shut your 13 year old mouth, you dont know $hit. How can making a documentary trying to show the public the truth be disrespectful. I dont know whats worse, the republican nazi`s, or the couch patriots like yourself. OMG, he just bad mouthed Bush, he hates our country, therefore he is a terrorist. Ill tell you whats disrespectful, our government. Blow up the world trade center with our own weapons while completely disabling our air guards, and trick millions upon millions of people into thinking it was Usama, in an effort to load the fat cats` wallets, with our blood, oil, and money. Yes, thats disrespectful. I think you deserve to die, you are just contributing to the downfall of our society. Read FK`s last sentence, if that doesnt mean anything to you, well, head on over to maddox`s page about killing yourself like a real man. Hes got some good tips for idiots like you.
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Male 73
Bravo, Bravo. The guy who made that video is completely disrespectful and probly deserves to be killed.
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Male 951
I did read it. Unlike most of the morons here automatically high-fiving an idiot like Maddox, I keep an open mind for whatever the truth might be and I look into things for myself. The article is pathetic, kind of like taking a wall that LC points out and then trying to "debunk" a brick. Talking about the minutiae like the small tank under the second plane, or basically *confirming* the fact that only 14 planes were set to cover the entire US airspace yet passing it off as completely logical(!), etc. The whole article is one big exercise in missing a forest for the trees, but where they lost me entirely was in claiming that Bldg 7`s collapse due to damage from the twin towers(!) was indeed logical. Anyone who believes that, or even that the towers fell the way they did due to fire/impact, is brain-dead. But then again, the govt wouldn`t have been able to get away with as much as it has already if it wasn`t able to count on most of the population being exactly that.
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Female 314
the government is pretty stupid, but they wouldn`t do that. I mean, seriously. And believing in the stupid "weather machine that caused katrine" is just idiocy. All of you who believe either one should rot in hell.
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Female 325
i didn`t say maddox was right or wrong. i`m simply pointing out that regardless of your view, the american government is responsible for the horror of 9/11. i don`t need to read a popular mechanics article to know that, andresh.
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Male 83
I recommend that fk, sicker and flipz444 take the time to read that link before jumping to conclusions.

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Male 83
Maddox is a joker, but he does referance some good sites.

[url=http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=1&c=y]http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/...[/url]

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Male 63
Well Put Fk and sicker
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Male 951
Expecting genuine insight on an issue as complex as the US govt`s complicity in 9/11, from someone like Maddox, who makes his living basically entertaining retards who specifically WANT him to do their thinking for them in as obnoxious a way as possible (to say nothing of actually expecting independent intelligence from said fans)...well, that`s where your hole in "common sense" is.

Anyone who can watch LC and still believe the govt line, is beyond reach, and frankly is the core of the problem.

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Male 33
To everyone who says "OMG JUST CUZ MADDOX SAYS IT DOESNT MAKE IT TRUE!!! THAT DOESNT EXPLAIN(insert specific detail here)!!!1!"

Read the whole article. It gives you links to websites that debunk those specific things at the bottom.
Maddox simply made this article because:
1. Many people read his site, so this would be a good way to get the conspiracy theorist people to see the reality of things.
2. To point out the obvious reasons why it wouldn`t be a conspiracy.

He didn`t make the article to point out specific things, which is why he included links to other pages which do.

Get it?

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Male 1,725
wow did ne1 else c the few words near the very bottom? it said 144some thousand people have been b*k*ked

or however u spell it

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Female 325
so instead we are to believe that The Greatest Government in the WORLD! (TM) simply dropped the f*cking ball, big time? that this wonderful, magical government just watched those planes get stolen, sat back and went, "Hmm.. Maybe now would be a good time to scratch my b@lls," and ignored repeated (and early) warnings regarding the very thing that happened? that this incredible, phenomenal government simply permitted thousands of american`s deaths and then went golfing?

so either i`m to believe that it was some kind of conspiracy (which, according to this guy, makes me an utter moron) or i`m to believe that the Most Powerful Government in the WORLD! (TM) just fumbled the whole thing and their error resulted in a massacre?

so.. they did it on purpose and are very clever or the entire government is full of idiots who can`t manage to protect the citizens of the united states.

either way, really.

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Female 325
so instead we are to believe that The Greatest Government in the WORLD! (TM) simply dropped the f*cking ball, big time? that this wonderful, magical government just watched those planes get stolen, sat back and went, "Hmm.. Maybe now would be a good time to scratch my b@lls," and ignored repeated (and early) warnings regarding the very thing that happened? that this incredible, phenomenal government simply permitted thousands of american`s deaths and then went golfing?

so either i`m to believe that it was some kind of conspiracy (which, according to this guy, makes me an utter moron) or i`m to believe that the Most Powerful Government in the WORLD! (TM) just fumbled the whole thing and their error resulted in a massacre?

so.. they did it on purpose and are very clever or the entire government is full of idiots who can`t manage to protect the citizens of the united states.

either way, really.

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Male 7
How could the government involve what would need to be hundreds of people to blow up a building and not have anyone leak anything?
Common Sense.

No, common sense is when you think about the bombers still being alive, and saying thats impossible. Common sense is when you realise a passport of one of the hijackers could never have been found blocks away from the crash after an inferno that vaporized the entire plane. Im not saying what loose change implies is what happened, but dont shrug these things off like its impossible to have happened. It wouldnt involve that many people, since most in on it can be kept relatively ignorant. Pretty much all you`d have to tell them is that they would be jeopardizing national security if they told anyone. And ofcourse they arent going to kill him for making the documentary, I mean come on, even in the comic he starts off with he implies no one would really care about it if it were true.

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Male 388
Maddox never lies! (I am a long time fan) but read up on his crappy kids drawings if you want a laugh!
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Female 532
"Watching this video is like being bukakked with stupid." Haha, I love that phrase.

:-( Ok, now I feel stupid.

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Male 63
Seriously, conveniently overlook the fact that several of the suicide bombers who apparantly overtook the planes, are still alive and well, pass it off as nothing at all, and tell us that we are stupid, becuse the filmmaker is still alive. Wow... I thought a suicide bomber was someone who killed himself in the act, guess i was wrong..
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Male 63
F**K you Maddox!! I`m not afraid to say that i think the U.S government played big role in the 9/11 ordeal. It`s bull$hit that his reasoning for why it couldnt have possible been the government, was because some kid is still alive?? Killing him would be too obvious, kind of like how witnesses randomly end up dead before trial, everyone would know whos behind it. Maddox is funny as hell, but damn, who set him up to this? And to say that his evidence lacks meaning due to discrepencies between figures, is hypocritcal. He just completely passes over the bull$hit fed to us by the media/government.
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Male 223
Steel loses 50% strength at 625F.... What about the molten steel at the bottom of the rubble pile? Isnt airplane fuel..(diesel basically) fairly volitile, and would burn out within a few hours, not a few days... I dont think the govt brought down the buildings, but i think the attacks were more well planned than they want us to know.
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Male 615
Ugh...the upperclassmen at my school talk about one of the teachers believing all this stuff. Said teacher also supposedly believes that Katrina was caused by the government`s top secret "weather machine"...Sad thing is, I might end up in this guy`s class next year...
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Female 837
Honestly... I don`t think I`ve ever heard of Maddox before reading that. And... I agree with him... I`m definitely not a Maddox worshipper beast... Maybe I`m just stupid and I`ve been living under a rock for too long...
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Male 53
Maddox says he doesn`t want to go through and prve everything wrong, just look at his links (they do it). Maddox is just saying that why would the government allow someone who is revealing their secret to live? How could the government involve what would need to be hundreds of people to blow up a building and not have anyone leak anything? Since when is the government good at keeping secrets?

Common Sense.

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Male 7
I dont get it.. All he says is "the documentary is full of inaccuracy! That guy is still alive! Ive got all sorts of arguments but I dont feel like telling about them right now." The thing I am waiting for is someone who proves the conspiracy wrong with strong arguments, rather then just laugh it off. There are some very good arguments in loose change, and I would like to be able to paint a bigger picture for myself by seeing such arguments from someone with a brain who disagrees :P
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Male 401

Here you can watch the video that Maddox was talking about. It goes for half an hour.
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Male 87
loose change is a video/film go google it
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Female 105
could anyone explain me "loose change"???
i have never heard of it because i dont live in the us and here it is not popular..please contact me and explain! ;-)
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Female 455
Weirdly this is exactly what i`ve wanted to say to every conspiracy theorist about the thing where you fold a 20 dollar note. The other stuff may be true but how the hell can a piece of money predict the future and why would somebody be idiot enough to do that anyway?
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Male 246
kinda random
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Male 951
Ok, so the whole thing is one big insult-fest. Not even one real refutation of anything Loose Change or anything else says. Not surprising.

Sheep, as you were.

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Male 713
IkeRay, my hero-those are my sentiments exactly

Wait a minute, were we just appointed to look at a fictional movie for apparent historic evidence?
I actually do wanna see V for Vendetta @_@

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Female 1,972
I`m not so much a Maddox fan as I am a huuuge fan of common sense, but in defense of the tin foil hat faction that purvey conspiracy theories: they`re good for a chuckle.
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Female 1,463
wat is loose change, ive never heard of it
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Male 379
the govermental wackos who invented the gas are trying to blow up america and murder all gays!!!seriosly...................im kidding.there isnt any conspiracy
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Male 2,216
I dont believe either way (I dont really care to be honest), but in history, people have often secretly attacked their own people/army/factions etc as a reason to attack a certain other people/army/faction.

For a more modern take on this, see the film V for Vendetta, and its tale of "St Mary`s". Just as an example.

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Male 962
Buddy why did you fillted a*s.
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Female 61
You can always order the book online.
and ^^ well we dont all agree just because its maddox ya know? its things that are often thunk but few people acculty voice them. and even fewer in a funny but still (for the lack of a better word) smart.
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Male 2,605
All this bickering is driving me wahnsinn. Conspiracy theorists are a Godsend because they have the guts to analyze and reject popular opinion (facing all the negativity associated with such an action) in order to provide an alternative, plausible explanation in the service of promoting free thought and openmindedness. Pardon me if I don`t take everything at face value, thanks.
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Male 962
Glen Beck is an as*h*le
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Female 101
And who says we didn`t listen, think, and analyze (in that order)? We just happen to agree with him.

You make us agree-ers sound like glaze-eyed, Maddox worshipping fans.

And when I say `we`, I mean me and my extra brain.

Oh, and if anyone is interested, you can join the I Luv Maddox No Matter How Mean He Is fanclub. I`m prez.

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Male 236
i never even heard of a conspiricy involving 9/11.
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Male 4,431
Aw, damn, and the next thing you`re going to say is that Santa isn`t real, aren`t you! Damn the internets and their tubes! Damn the internets!
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Male 2,703
people wouldnt be upset if it didnt touch a "touchy" subject. i dont rule out a conspiracy, but i dont think that it was. also, what is with you pussies that cant think for themselves, whatever someone else says is good enough for you? drat that, i listen, analize and then think for myself. i will listen to the non-conspirist and the ones with the conspiracy theories, and then i make my own conclusion. you guys sees that some dumbass with money thinks one way, and automatically, its the truth...lame.
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Male 321
Lucky^ I wanted to get a copy of the book, but i have to wait now...
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Male 672
Government conspiracy! ZOMG LOCH NESS MONSTER!!!
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Female 61
Maddox is amazing...i just saw him tonight! hella book tour.
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Male 2,958
Yup. That settles it.
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Female 101
Score one for Maddox!
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Male 321
Maddox speaks truth.
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Male 53
Link: There is no 9/11 conspiracy you morons [Rate Link] - Just to clear things up.
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