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I hope you`re not seriously suggesting I wrote "than me"?
Don`t trust anyone who incorrectly, in the Standard English/grammatical sense, ends a sentence with "I" when it should be "me".
And you only get that excuse once per month, and it`s pointless to use it any time but the *actual* time. So you can`t really avoid anything. Trust me, I`ve tried.
You are not giving any sort of feedback justifying your opinion towards me, Fartacus, leaving me to conclude you have no base. How that somehow authorizes you to pass judgement on me is... beyond me, frankly.
I`m not saying whether or not guys or girls have it easier...I just think girls have more stuff to deal with
I don`t get any side effects when i get my period so i guess i`m lucky.
But i know i wouldn`t wanna have a penis and balls XD
Goodnight, happy victory. I`m done. There are much more important things going on in my life than worrying about arguing on the internet.
I am not claiming my point of view *has* to be correct. I`ve been wrong on a number of occasions, I realize. And I never make any claims with certainty, as to do so is impossible; just as impossible for anyone to explain with 100% certainty what happens during PMS, whether female or not (being female, by the way, is not a prerequisite to attaining a vague or complete idea of what happens during PMS).
But this doesn`t mean or void the idea that I can`t reasonably hold an opinion over an exclusively female process. It may not be absolutely accurate, but who can judge what is and what isn`t, really?
When women don`t feel they *have* to control this overflow of emotional suggestion, they won`t, with the result being, again, irrational and disruptive behavior. While this may be easiest on them, is it easiest on the undeserving? No, and it should be. I ask you, how is that irrational?
Is that to suggest you advocate women projecting ill onto those surrounding them who have no involvement in their grief? In what way do men deserve such treatment?
Perhaps it is in a woman`s best interest to think critically while not under PMS symptoms on how to best cope with their natural cycle. Joining a workshop or undergoing counseling is a better alternative to disrupting social lives, wouldn`t you agree?
I`ll concede that emotions are not always controllable. Being a borderline, I have first hand knowledge of this. However, as anyone has yet to prove how PMS is a mental condition spurned on by anything other than an increase in hormones and therefore an increase in acceptable emotional expression, I refuse to believe 90 percent of women have a psychological condition associated specifically with periods.
Contrary to popular belief, emotions are not 100% under someone`s control. Perhaps they are in your world, Overmann, but I don`t know ANYONE who hasn`t been short or snippy or despressed at some point in their lifetime for unknown reasons. Thus, I could reasonably conclude that most people do not have 100% control on their emotions and are sometimes incapable of restraining them. When you add hormones to the mix, things get messy and thus most of the irritation and snippiness from PMS doesn`t stem from some desire to make everyone`s life a living hell, but instead, just perhaps, an influx of hormones which makes realizing one is being snippy difficult and actively stopping it even moreso. And this is something that can`t really be debated as you`ve never felt that influx of hormones.
I didn`t expect in the least anyone in this thread would agree with me when I first posted and I don`t now, but know that I can give explanations for my opinions and that I have conviction. If that`s not enough, it`d only be verifying that women are simply... insatiable?
"I`d point out how it is basically like a short-term mental/emotional disorder, but you`re one who obviously believes that such disorders only exist in the mind."
It`s a shame you presume so much as to say it`s wasted breath explaining how PMS is like a short-term mental disorder (note I`m not disputing it is emotional in nature). I`d love to hear it.
Fartacus, anyone can stand on the side-lines and call a contender ignorant, but unless you`re willing to share your dubious insight and explain how and why I am ignorant, I suggest you bud in not at all. And by stating you anticipate me saying childbirth is painless you are, as they say, dirtying the well. *Sigh* Let it be known that I don`t believe human childbirth is painless....
Yes, Vindicate, that`s why they call it PREmenstrual stress or PREmenstrual syndrome. +1 point for you.
Dragonlord, how convenient of you to not finish my sentence in your quote. I said hormones may affect emotions, I`m not disputing that, but not to such a large degree as you may suggest. Emotions are still a very cognitive process, and it troubles me not in the least if you don`t believe this as it is an emerging theory. And as far as taking psychology classes, I`m a psych major and expect to reap to the fullest extent whatever psych education I will receive.
.."Wow Overmann, you are one totally ignorant guy. Mind bogglingly ignorant. That or you`re a troll who likes to stir people up. Next you`ll be telling us labor is natural therefore not painful."...
Then you`ll see our sideHave a nice day freak.
Look, quite frankly I think everybody is being a little one-sided here. But overmann? Please, please, PLEASE, go back and take biology 101. Some psychology wouldn`t do you harm either. Your comment there could not be further from the truth. Emotions aren`t some magical things that come out of thin air, they are caused by chemicals, just like every other process in the body. Horomones, just like many other chemicals, can and will upset emotions in large amounts. And during menstration, horomones are definitely in large amounts.
I`d point out how it is basically like a short-term mental/emotional disorder, but you`re one who obviously believes that such disorders only exist in the mind, and it`s just be a waste of breath (ummm, errr, "finger-muscle power" I guess would be more accurat
I remember seeing this film in 6th grade. All those warnings, oh, maybe some discomfort, it`s okay to exercise, don`t stress yourself, etc... were actually more worrying that comforting. Of course if they told you the truth, that you might get cramps that are a cross between a major charley horse and burning your hand on the stove, they you would really be terrified. I contend that menstrual periods disprove the notion of Creationism and especially Intelligent Design. Only a sadistic idiot would have invented menstruation.
And actually, most of PMS, just like male PMS, is caused by fluctuating hormones. I know myself, I`m most easily irritable the day or two days BEFORE I even get cramps. Then when I do get cramps I lay on the couch with lots of advil and watch TV/movies/read. So I can say that, while some women may cry and carry on BECAUSE of cramps, most women get true PRE-menstrual syndrome, in that it comes BEFORE the cramps arrive. But then again, I am just a woman who has to deal with this every month, so what do I know about it?
thanks for your time
vindicate if you say you up hold equal rights then you have no reason to be argueing about any critism men have towrds yalls pms and menstration cramps. By giving this critism we are treating you equally (e.g. men act in 2 ways when another man gets kicked in the nuts. they will a.( laugh their @ss of at him or b.( grab their nuts feeling his pain, but both choices end in "suck it up man." both reactions can be found given in above entries towards your womenly problems so just suck it up.
now overmann your argument is ver solid being based on cold logic but say getting kicked in the nuts to the point of being lame for a few days were the male equivelent to a womens mentrastional cramps I believe I could honestly say that even youd have problems coping with that every month and would eventualy break and lash out.
When I spoke of PMS above, I was referring specifically to the disruptive behavior with which women choose to express their stress of impending pain, which is how women express it currently.
Damn you, mensturation. Damn you to hell.
Nah uh uh, I don`t sympathize with PMS because it is irrational and disruptive behavior born from not being able to cope with said pain. Sure the cramps may be painful, but what really is to be gained by carrying out one`s grief against those with no understanding or involvement with said grief? This is why it is important to learn to cope and get one`s grief contained.
And it seems you have a false definition of feminism. You see, feminism is the advocation of women`s rights at the complete disregard of men`s rights, whereas someone who promotes equality would consider men and women`s rights. For example, feminism follows the doctrine of:
Women`s rights [greater than or equal to] men`s rights.
Whereas someone who promotes equality (there`s not even a term for it):
Women`s rights equal men`s rights.
I do not believe the advocacy of equal rights should have a gender-biased name.
We haven`t halted evolution, per se. Rather, any evolutionary change is occuring gradually and not on a historical scale. But say you`re right; we still evolved with our reproductive cycle as nature saw fit.
Tsk tsk, Vindicate, I half-expected you not to bring up testes, but...
For one thing, it is certainly *not* an internal, natural biological process that external objects forcefully collide with the testes. Explain how you arrived at that logic? And testes are outside simply because that was the most efficient cooling mechanism nature could provide; I`m sure you know that were testes internal, sperm would fry.
Overmann doesn`t want to sympathize with women`s pms because it`s a natural system. Thus, his chances of having a happy homelife are diminished since most girls would gut guys that feel that way, especially during that time of the month.
Oh, and if by feminist you mean I want equal treatment between men and women in economical, working, home, etc, etc realms, then yes - I am a feminist. If by feminist you mean "man-hater", then sorry to disappoint, but definitely not.
I don`t begrudge men for not having cramps. But I do expect them to realize that it`s not pleasant and that it can hurt immensely and to respect that. High expectations? Oh well.
And considering humans have essentially halted evolution since we seem to wish the alter the environment before we alter ourselves, changes in the reproductive system seem like they would occur rarely, if ever. And more often than not, people would want to change it back to "acceptable" so they look "normal"/alluring.
So, the correlation to your statements is that, next time someone kicks you in the balls, suck it up. After all, the way your reproductive system has evolved, it`s only natural things may collide with them. Nature intended for your testicles to be in a rather precarious position. Deal.
To me, that "slight twinge" feels like someone is stabbing me in the stomach and twisting the knife over and over.
So, the next time you guys think about us women and our PMS, think how you would feel being in terrible pain for about a week.
Vindicate, were I to have been born female (someone up there seemingly loves me enough to have willed me male), reality would still be insensitive; only difference I can see is that I wouldn`t put as much emphasize on females having to cope, but again pain is pain.
I sympathize, sometimes, but not with those who feel pain through a natural cycle, and certainly not through a natural cycle so essential for procreation. The human body didn`t evolve to yoke it with more pain than it could handle.
I must say, it`s amusing how you like to simplify male behavior to a general, laymen foundation, but I fear this only exemplifies your ignorance. You are wrong to say males want companionship but not the hardships pertaining to it. Why do you suppose males get married in the first place? Certainly not because they don`t wish to be involved with their spouses, problems and all. A bit of a feminist, are you?
so thats how it works.....
I`m like that too. I was even bleeding for like 4 months once, so my mom took me to the doctor. I had to get blood tests and an ultrasound, I had very bad anemia and polycystic ovary syndrome. I usually dont have long periods, in fact that was the only time. I usually skip a few months before I get a period. You should go see a doctor. If you have polycystic ovary syndrome, you may have troubles getting pregnant.
PMS isn`t caused from the "pain" of the period, it`s depression caused by some hormone mess up that comes with menstruation. Damn, it`s called know what you`re b*tching about! And if you guys think periods are fun stuff, imagine forgetting to take a tampon, finding yourself in a public washroom with your a** and underwear covered with blood, it`s everywhere, and you also realize it went through your pants. IMAGINE THAT!!Lol *sigh* :-P
There`s a difference between "telling it like it is" and realizing that yes, this is painful, and since I`m a guy who may at some point wish to get in a relationship - it might be in my best interests to sympathize instead of irritate.
As stated, some girls have it bad, some don`t. I would *think* most girls would rather have it not bad if they have to have it at all. The difference in pain is where the irritation comes from. I know I`d much rather have the "cramps" I had when I was 14 instead of now.
Guys really are amusing - they want to have girlfriends/wives, but don`t want to have to deal with their problems. Ah, that`s funny.
And still say all these guys would be tooting a different horn if they had periods/cramps...
"If the egg is impregnated, which happens when a woman is going to have a child..." I love how they tip-toe around the whole sex deal. Oh, and "try not to make yourself irregular by catching cold." That is freakin` hilarious.
Also, as for cramps I have friends` who have terrible ones and others just annoying ones. Still, it is horribly uncomfortable and a nuisance. Especially at night. When you need to sleep and you have to worry about not having a... problem. Waking up in blood is most unpleasant.
:DBut I hypothyroidism and have to take pills,so that could be why...
Funny how some periods DO feel that bad... and can be so bad as not walking for a couple days that you have to stay in bed and miss school/work!!
Luckily for me, it`s not that severe, but I know a girl who went to a hospital (or almost did because her mother was so worried) for really bad cramps.
Mine? A pain... but pills help... a little.
Have a great effing day.
Please shove it.You don`t know what you`re talking about.Just because your fiance doesn`t get bad cramps doesn`t mean the rest of us don`t.
that would be funny to see the sex video. I can`t believe I actually just watched a real "video." You always see them in movies and TV, but this is the first lol classic i`ve seen.
I`ll shut up now
i`ve always wondered why females have never adapted over time....then again they say todays women`s pain isn`t as severe as it was even 100 years ago
if it hurts then so be it, it`s the ones that complain about it that are annoying, i never know my baby has hers, as far as complaining, unless she tells me (usually when I`m attempting to um....well nevermind lol
And if you can`t see the sarcasm in that, then you`re too dumb to live. Kindly turn in your life at the door. Thank you.
All the females on the boards talking about the pains and discomfort, all I can say is suck it up. You get what you`re born with and are forced to deal, so your choices are to either accept it or not. Oh, but what a great injustice `tis, I know! Spare me.
that baby was ugly... i hope my baby doesn`t look that way....
have really thin nasal walls...too thin to get fixed....sucks really
but i average 1-6 nosebleeds a month..just sneezing can freak`n cause it...yes it`s wierd...but it`s the truth
they thought i was going to die once when i was just 7 years old, bled for nearly 45 minutes....ended up with nurses trying to get it under control....
lol yes i know that`s off subject...i am bored...obviously
oh and the average period starts between 8 and 14 now...talk about differences in maturing in todays world
The vagina looks like a slide.. o.0
The only bit I really took in was the pituitary gland stuff, haha FSH- follicle stimulating hormone is the hormone realeased. It ripens eggs.
I learnt something from biology class, this just made me laugh.
In this instance, males definitely win!