The Great Immigration Debate

Submitted by: buddy 11 years ago in Funny

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Male 36
stoner eagles were the best part
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Female 297
consider this - if the government allowed `illegal immigration` it wouldn`t be illegal anymore would it?
take the advice of the eagles people. `chill out`
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Male 110
I can`t believe I read through all this crap primarily posted by ignorant children.

No Guinstar my last posts on this topic are not a jest.

I think all the idiots that are pro illegal immigration should be shot. Especially the morons waving the Mexican flag. They need to be asked if Mexico is so great, then why the hell are you coming to the US illegally in the first place? If you have so much Mexican pride then GO LIVE THERE AGAIN.

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Female 572
^ hahaha I spelled it correctly in the first place. Learn to spell then tell me where my place is.
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Male 2,294
Arguement* You really need to learn your place. :\
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Female 572
SPrinkZ? half of the stuff in my post wasn`t about you, i had another debate going on... stay out of my argument peon!
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Male 1,385
good satire strikes hard at the heart of truth
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Male 2,294
Sadly if you were `intelligent`, you`d know I am not offending his intelligence, he is intelligent. He`s just not knowledgable, stay out of the arguement peon.

Satire is a witty way of poking fun at events, or things we do in life in a humorous way, even if it`s morbid, or just plain stupid. It tries to bring light to things.

Anyways, all I am going to say is, I`m very happy you are English, yet cannot use proper grammar or punctuation, go back to school kid.

18 isn`t a magic number of omniscience, for my age I exceed my peer group by a few fold, so I am just going to leave this at that, have a nice day.

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Female 572
not that it really matters;)
and sorry but i have to add a few
ok?ok?okok?oooookkkkkkkk?? s in here aswell. i have nothing more constructive to do.
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Female 572
""You`re probably about 15 years old, and cannot even comprehend the slaughter that went on""

you`re 18... so no-one aged 15 can understand suffering, but as soon as we hit 18 we know all the ways of the world. that`s about as logical as the rest of your arguments.

ok shizzaster, i suppose i haven`t passed `gr.7` as we don`t have that system in britain, but i am in a higher year than a 13 yr old, if that is what defines intelligence to you. i don`t want to turn this into some kind of argument, but that definition up the top of the page is from google definitions, i looked it up. a parody can also be a satirical look at an event in history. ie the immigration issue.

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Male 2,294
I already understand what you said, it`s a very generic old fashioned view of american culture, the great melting pot, etc.

You grew up here, you`re american, your culture, heritage etc, lose it, you`re american.

It`s nice to have something to look back on, just because you don`t appreciate your culture doesn`t mean you can superimpose your lack of interest on others. That`s foolish, I take pride in what I know, and I knew A LOT about the diseases that ran rampant through the native american population, and the gases used on the jews in the holocaust.

Look kid, I`m a full time college student, what are the odds I`d be ignorant about something as detrimental as genocide to an entire GROUP of people such as the jews, or the native americans? I`m already through highschool, and we learned about the poor jews for about 3 years, every year the same crap about the jews. F*ck the native americans though.

Just think about it for a little while, hopefully it will all sink in soon.

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Male 2,958
But you seem convinced, so you must be right.

I concede. You `beat my ass`.

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Male 2,958
I missed the part where you `beat my ass` in any debate.
All I saw was an online argument that had no solid point because you switched it every new batch of posts, a bunch of figures you looked up online, and a one sided mentality. Not to mention the extreme use of the word `ignorant` despite those last two facts.

Twice already I stopped and clearly said in my posts "I can see where you`re coming from, but" and you just shot back with insults, and facts you probably didn`t even know before this "debate". I was TRYING to understand where you were coming from but you made that exceedingly difficult by believing so much that you`re right.

I told you "I see you think like this, I think like this" you said "F*CK YOU! YOU`RE IGNORANT! HERE`S A LINK WITH SOME FACTS ON IT!" You took no time to try and understand what I was actually saying. Maybe that`s why you consider me ignorant?

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Male 143
Sooooooooooo...
Funny clip, huh?
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Male 2,294
I have the right to call you ignorant on the issue; because I fully understand the issue. America brushes over their holocaust; because we`re the good guys. Right?

Wrong.

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Male 2,294
You`re probably about 15 years old, and cannot even comprehend the slaughter that went on, nearly double the jewish population, and also it didn`t take 400 years, it took more like 150 years to get to where they were.

I just don`t know how much I have to beat your ass in this debate for you to realize how stupid you sound.

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Male 2,294
This was over 400 years ago, did the settlers have cars, or gas chambers, or sophisticated machinery, trains, etc? They had no way to round up the native americans, they were grossly out numbered, and ontop of that. You`re a damn idiot.

I have no idea how to show you how flawed your logic is, it`s just disgusting. To sum up everything:

You`re an idiot, you

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Male 2,294
Here is how it was worse: They were known to give them their old world diseases, such as smallpox. Do you have any idea what smallpox does? If you get the NICEST form of you, you`ll just bleed form all your orifices, and eventually die, the worst kind, you get billard ball eyes, your eyes turn completely black, you bleed from every orifice imaginable, and from inside out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zyklon_B


Native Americans - 1
Jews - 0


I`ll take the zyklon b please. Smallpox is a much more horrible death to endure, not only is it slow, it`s excrutiatingly painful. I don`t care if I had no part in it, I don`t care if you didn`t have any part in it.

But you`re just like EVERYONE else, you don`t GIVE a sh*t about history, and history dictates we make the same f*cking mistakes. Everyone cries for the

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Male 1,866
i think he says it was worse than the holocaust because the casualties were near double... but both were terrible--- damn you white people!

and person who posted above me, get real, don`t be dense.

a satire pokes fun at our world.
a parody at another work of art. come back to argue this when you pass gr.7....

and by the way, did you actually LOOK it up!?!?!? and if you loooked up parody why not then satire?
i didn`t use it... but if you need to www.dictionary.com now don`t be thickheaded. ok? okkk? ooook? okokokok?

jesus christ, don`t even think about pointing out my capitalization because it has nothing to do with my post, i know how to capitalize.

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Female 572
hey shizzaster, here is a definition from google of parody
"Make a spoof of or make fun of/
Humorous or satirical mimicry"
ok?? ok?? ok?? oooookkkkk?

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Male 2,958
To sum it all up:

When the `genocide of native americans` happened, times were different. Mentalities were different. Christ, the PEOPLE were different.

Quit holding a grudge about something not only YOU had no part in, but that NOBODY around now had a part in.

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Male 2,958
And really...what do you expect from America?

It`s not like we can just say
"Sorry, Native Americans..." and move out

What you`re doing is carrying an anger and a hatred for something you had ABSOLUTELY NO PART IN. I`m not saying you can`t say what happened is disgusting. But you`re acting like you were there when it happened and something`s going to happen now to change the past.

The truth is, you`re apparently carrying a weight on your shoulders that shouldn`t be there. Either (again) someone`s convincing you it`s a good idea to run around preaching this, or you`re doing this on your own trying to make what your ANCESTORS went through give you a reason to bitch.

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Male 2,958
Man...do they preach this sh*t to you??

Here`s some figures...
holacaust: 1941-1945 almost 6 million jews killed
(according to your link)
Native American Genocide: 1492-1892 11,763,000 killed

Hopefully you see where I`m going with this.

That`s 4 YEARS and nearly half the casualties from something that took 400? But I suppose since you guys were nearly depleted, it makes up for 396 years....that is if you don`t bring concentration camps into the picture.

I`m not saying what happened to the ntive americans was right, but JESUS H CHRIST, how can you say the sh*t was worse than the holocaust?!

Either someone`s spitting this propoganda to you and america should watch out from an uprising of the "New Native Americans" Or you`re making these accusations on your own. Either way you`re not looking up anything that doesn`t help your argument out, and either way you don`t have the space to call someone ignorant on the issue.

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Male 2,294
The native american population was over 12 million, they rendered it down to just over 230,000. They killed 95% of the native american population, do you f*cking understand that? You whiney little pieces of trash have nothing to say.

They deserve what they get, and I hope all the cigarettes and weed they have given you bastards kills you all, I`ll never touch the sh*t, and I can only relish in the fact you can all shove a piece of cancer in your face and slowly commit suicide for the addiction. We`re finally catching up with you in the sheer amount of murder. Maybe that`s harsh, but it makes me happy to know you`re all so pathetically stupid to do such a thing.

Just look at this: http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/...

Then shut the drat up for the rest of your ignorant, worthless piece of sh*t lives.

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Male 2,294
Native americans were the first to be in America, all people originated from africa, the [africans] migrated across asia, then across the bering straight into north america, then down into south america, etc.

They were not immigrants, they were the first settlers of that part of this world, and they deserve some of their land back that was STOLEN from them. There were eleven million native americans when they got here, perhaps more, take a guess how many are left? Two million, since they originally came here and killed them with their disgusting biological warfare.

Think about that, multiple generations later, and their population is only a hair over two million, only six million jews were killed in WWII, over 11 million native americans were killed, and no one gives a poo. Why? Because of ignorance, no one needs to care about the `savages` they don`t believe in God, so it`s perfectly justifiable to go off and kill them all!

Let`s have a party, then rape all their women!

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Male 2,294
Plus:

You think it`s so great for native americans? There is a tribe right near me, that lives on a plot of land that is maybe a mile or two in diameter, and all they have is trailers, and they literally live ontop of eachother. They are all family, and they love their culture, even if you morons can`t understand that; because you never lived it, you never lived on a reservation, you`re inconsiderate, callow, and cavalier to say the least.

Microgovernment? Yeah that`s great, do you know how many times tribes get moved because they are on a plot of land that has OIL or GOLD? Oh God forbid they might be able to make money! That would be awful right?

All of your conceptions about ethnicity and culture are skewed because of your ignorance as americans, I am a real american, my tribe was one of the first to meet the settlers, and I am a descendent of the tribe that Pocahontas came from. They were also some of the first to DIE and be RAPED into oblivion.

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Male 2,294
You people are pathetic, if you even had any idea of the status of native americans, you`d shut the hell up. Whenever a tribe in the midwest wants to have a pow wow they government intervenes and goes drating beserk.

God forbid we pay taxes? The genocide of the native americans makes the jews look like a dratING JOKE. The jews got their own country, where the drat is my country? I don`t see the sympathies being extended to them, because of the european xenophobia that unleashed your religious justification to extirpate an entire race of people for your own avarice.

You children make me sick, you`re about fifteen years old, you know nothing of anything you speak of, you`re the morons. Your grammar is poo, you`re still babies in highschool, don`t even trifle with my intellect, you`re about as smart as a plank.

Also native americans had no concept of `owning` things, they believed they were allowing them to borrow the land, know the facts you jack ass.

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Male 254
but god forbid you pay taxes right?

so a little (and crappy) joke:
So an Indian walks in to the a resauraunt and says
"We have reservations!"

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Male 254
I kind of hoped the buffalo would have pointed out that "native" americans were also immigrants into their land.

"(im just saying) but idk y gringos(americans no offense) get all woah cuz we(as in hispanics) take all the jobs
thats total bs,....its the wetbacks in this country that do all the shi*ty work u american dont like!
so u no wut!??!?!!
SCREW U
(no offense intended , im not against americans or theire beliefs my friggin bf is a gringo)"
Go you, your a spic!
If you want to be a poo mopper or my gardner, thats great, but shut up and do it fuc king LEGALLY.

and for the native american up there bitching about how that pisses you off, Its not our fault your ancestors traded your land for a couple beads (yes, its true many actually did that). Plus we brought you alcohol and gambling. Plus we gave you your own little area were you could be happy squaws with your own little microgovernment. If you don`t like the land you live on now move out of

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Male 2,958
As I see it, you think that just because you have a bloodline shared with `Native Americans` you have enough to say you are one.

That`s just not how I believe things work.

So I guess I`m gonna go strap on a Trojan Jr. and make sweet love to myself, because I don`t see you as a Native American.

But before I lube up I`d just like to point out how you didn`t approach my first post to you, only the one that mentioned something about your `race`

Anyone that can get that serious about something they know nothing about is only using it as an excuse. Again, just my opinion. Don`t bother challenging it, it`s not going to change.

PPS
You`re a moron.

That`s for saying you hate mexicans because europeans barged in on your ancestors. (referring to my first post to you) that just flat out doesn`t make sense.

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Male 2,958
I was going to start arguing with you SPrinkZ. But then I realized you probably have a different deffinition of words such as "African" "American" and "Native American" than I do.

See, the way I see it. You can`t claim to be a part of any of those unless one of two things are true.
1. You`re from the country that the title holds to.
Born in America=American...etc...
or 2. Know something of the culture you come from.

I don`t see black people as `Africans` just because of their skin color. You were born in america, you know nothing of the `tribes` you share blood with. You`re american.

Apparently you see it just the opposite way.

See what I just did. I took the time to understand how you`re thinking. You just jumped to name calling without, apparently, actually reading what I said. So who`s the ignorant one?

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Male 651
england? we thought you came from the moon!
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Male 1,866
Nico_86
Guinstar

neither of you know what a parody is, do you? you seem so ridiculious telling others they don`t.
a parody is making fun of another work of art.
a satire is making fun of politics.
this clip was a satire, and knowing a bit of north american history, this thing is PACKED with sattire.

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Male 462
Stupid americans.
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Male 2,294
Hey dumbpoo, I used to live on the sold reservation land (my tribe wasn`t going to sit on a pile of poo land, so those who wanted to move, did move), NOT much is known about my culture, but I am STILL native american. So no one is african; because they don`t know about the african tribe they came from that was enslaved and braught over to America?

Shut the f*** up, you ignorant cur. You really make me sick. You`re just a little kid.

I have over 4 thousand cousins and relatives, and most of them learned how to do the dances, we have yearly pow wows, etc. My tribe is almost federally recogonized, I am VERY native american, and you can go f*** yourself if you think otherwise.

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Female 56
I say we (America) should just take over the world.Things would be a hella lot easier.There would be no immigrants!No racists!No HR4437!*coughnorightsorfreespeechcough*I think that`s the best approach
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Male 2,958
sounds good to me.

I mean, if mexico WAS in america, they`d have no need to come over here....as soon as we fix up their government and every day life. But that`s not a problem, you know how good we are at that.

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Female 93
"what`s the worst that could happen?"
hmm, let`s see...
the slaughtering of all the natives peoples and most native creatures and those we don`t slaughter are sent to live in the most infertile regions of the country?
is that what`s gonna happen to us? the immigrants be slaughtering the white folk who be livin here for a long while?
maybe we deserve it. KARMA!

and as for that "no borders, no immigration problems"....
so, what, should the USA become so arrogant that they invade canada and central america and make them commonwealths like puerto rico? so we`d have french or inuit at one end of the new country, spanish at the other end and english is sandwiched in the middle--so instead of a melting pot, it`d be more of a melting cauldron....

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Male 161
You were born in America...Your dratin American. End of debate.
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Female 285
That was one of the wittiest things I have ever seen. I love how it brings out the hypocrisy of the whole immigration debate!
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Male 11
Pilgrims were the original wet backs.
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Male 2,958
Not to mention you can`t really say you`re native american if you haven`t the slightest idea about your culture. Maybe you have native american IN you, but that`s different.

I mean, I have irish in me, but I don`t drink so I can`t very well say I`m irish.
I have native american in me too, but again, I don`t drink.
*rimshot*
And I have mexican in me, but don`t know any of the language beyond what I learned in middle school.

As far as I`m concerned. I`m just American.

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Male 2,958
I had a response lined up for you, but then I realized I don`t really understand what you`re saying.

either you`re native american. Deriving from the mexico region. So you hate `mexicans` because they wiped out that area.

My response was:
Meh.
You wouldn`t exist if the SPAINARDS never conqured mexico, so quit bitching.

But then I figured you could have also been talking about being a NA of...NA (because you can`t hate mexicans if you technically are one). And you hate mexicans because it reminds you of the european immigration. That really makes no sense at all, though. So if that`s what you meant I guess I could just say:

you`re a moron.

Either way you wouldn`t be here to bitch about it if either of the instances never happened. Soooo shh.

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Male 2,294
I`m native american, and this pisses me off...it reminds me of how my tribe was wiped into oblivion, I don`t even have the privelage of knowing my lineage, or my native langauge.

I hate mexicans.

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Male 1,014
I hate all these pro-illegal immigrant movements going on, and the media is too afraid of being labeled racist to say anything bad about them. They`re illegal! Ship them back home and let them do things the hard way. I`ve got lots of friends from overseas, and they had to study and work hard to get their citizenship. S%^&t work or not, there ARE Americans who will gladly do it. That being said, I love stoner eagles.
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Male 994
Hah White people are crackers. It`s funny at the end when they assume nothing going to happen to the native americans. Of course nothing really did untill Jackson came into power and forced them to move again. Then we placed his ugly head on a $20 bill. Yeah America!
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Female 670
im mexican but i think usa is rigth
i think our government have to do something about this, is not rigth to go and work in another country when you can work in your country
ok
this was about native americans anyway hehehe it was kind of funny but may be it can make people think about the situation

plz excuse my spelling

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Female 349
Although it wasn`t the funniest thing I`ve ever seen I still enjoyed it.
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Female 412
(im just saying) but idk y gringos(americans no offense) get all woah cuz we(as in hispanics) take all the jobs
thats total bs,....its the wetbacks in this country that do all the shi*ty work u american dont like!
so u no wut!??!?!!
SCREW U
(no offense intended , im not against americans or theire beliefs my friggin bf is a gringo)
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Female 1,426
thank you timak! thats just what i was going to say.
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Female 572
^ there are many people in the world who do not understand what the word parody means, let alone how the title of this link shows that it is one; there is no point despairing over these people. :)

and i hope you are jesting timak...

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Male 78
I think the title of the episode itself shows that it is a parody of our current immigration issue. So...that`s not a big mystery...
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Male 321
I agree with b-hazard...
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Male 1,521
Eachone should stay in their countries and not enter illegaly into other people`s countries! Why to be as an ass where nobody wants you? I live very very far from america and here are also latino illegal immigrants; and I say F**k how the hell they got here? Each country has the right to protect their citizens and economies from the Illegal immigrants!
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Male 110
So to fix the immagration problem, I say set up automatic machine guns along all borders that shoot anything that moves. If they want to come over they can go through the normal check points and try to do it legally. Oh yeah, we also need to take huge trucks to the illegal immigrants protesting rallies and scoop them all up while they are all in one place and dump them back in Mexico after the border guns go up.
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Male 110

DaSniper88... I live in America because of quite a few of the "problems" you listed.

The criminal system would be fixed if we made the death penalty mandatory for a list of the "worse offenses" The victims or family of victims should be able to carry out the death sentence with their own Guns. (Now that’s gun control) Leave abortion where it is now. Medical care... well I say let natural selection take over. Metric? What the... screw metric. I live in the USA I measure in inches, feet, yards, and miles. That will never change.

I think our current leaders are idiots, but I am still happy to live in America even though it has a few problems. Show me a country that has no problems… it doesn’t exist.

Every other country in the world has individual problems that the US doesn’t have… So what?

As to immigration… I bet we would have a lot less problems with illegals if we had no shared borders like Australia...

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Male 1,115
hmmm, those were some very "wise" birds. Wonder y they are endangered.
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Female 45
Was one of the borders "Lake Popozao"?? Is that the Native American name for "sounds like crap - oh wait, it`s just Kevin Federline"? :)
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Male 207
Yes, this has to be a satire of modern day immigration, why else would they talk about economy besides of the comedy aspect?
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Female 35
Wow... It kind of gives me a whole new opinion on immigration today in America.... well, not really. I still say they should go back to their own country! STOP TAKING OUR JOBS.
no, I`m not racsist, just fascist.
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Male 1,039
LOL they made fun of so many things I wouldn`t know where to start.
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Male 2,720
^ l o l @ l o l a
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Female 1,972
It goes to show you: birds give bad advice- that`s why we eat them.
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Male 84
This is clearly satire of the modern day Issue. You cant just have millions of people enter your country with no control over it. Countries have limited resources and services. As well as a slew of legal and economic problems with having undocumented people. If you want to enter USA do it the legal way like everyone else who comes from countries that dont share borders with USA. Cant belive some of the problems the USA has, they may lead in technology but they lag in policies that the rest of the 1st world has implemented and work, IE: gun control, metric system, immigration, abortion, medical care, criminal system, death penatly. And before anyone starts crap, Ive lived in USA for 7 years and have tri-citizenship including US.
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Male 2,958
I don`t think this is meant to mirror anything having to do with immigration issues today. Seems more like it`s just showing how white people are the majority against immigration today, while they were the original immigrants in the first place. Then just playing off of that.

"How dare you!...eh...what are you, like, a wooky?"

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Male 208
Hah! That was great. Maybe you didn`t appreciate it as much surrysounds, simply because you don`t know the full history of immigration in North America... or maybe you`re just not a nerd. LOSER! HAHAHAhahaha..ha...heh...
Ohhh... I hurt my own feelings...
*shrug*
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Male 118
Well, I don`t know if that was a stab at the politically correct world of the white westerner,
or a subtle warning about the dangers of immigration in the modern world.
It Was alright, not much comedy value imo.
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Male 10
First Post!!!!!!!!

LMAO!!!! The yak kicks ass and hugs with trees and his idea of calling them crackers! lol

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Male 10,115
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