Disney Self-Plagiarism

Submitted by: buddy 10 years ago
http://www.prodisney.ru/clones.php

Disney copying itself? Interesting screen shots (but text is in Russian).
There are 61 comments:
Male 136
Tru` dat man all they gotta do is redraw a little, it saves alot so lets just ignoreit.;-/
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Female 1,120
I was able to see it when its in the movie itself, but when it came to comparing different movies I never thought of.
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Male 78
It`s not being lazy, it`s being efficient and smart.

And as for the whole "whether it`s ok to use your own previous works in later essays" subject that went on between CINDY and JEN: It IS allowed to reuse your own work in your papers so long as you properly cite it. And as for RE-submitting papers, it all depends on the criteria--for example, it is perfectly acceptable to submit very old essays when applying to a department (though some people may specify against this).

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Male 943
Thus, are to the left located personnel from the "sword into kamne"(y9`e), and to the right - from "the books of dzhungley"(y9`").
Oh, yeah. That helps alot, starsometin.
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Male 297
that`s cool. the jungle book/ pooh stuff is really interesting
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Male 107
Whoever noticed that has WAY too much time on their hands.
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Female 121
hmmmmmmm
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Female 45
I noticed a similar scene in 101 Dalmations and The Aristocats. Can`t remember exactly where, but I noticed it a long time ago and it bugs the hell out of me.
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Male 2,958
-guys if you want to TRANSLATE THE WEB PAGE GO TO http://babel.altavista.com/babelfish/tr AND ENTER THE URL CHOOSE RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH DON`T TRY GOOGLE CAUSE GOOGLE DOESN`T HAVE RUSSAIN TO ENGLISH ON BABEL FISH DOES-

guy, somebody ALREADY POSTED THIS ON THE PAGE BEFORE THIS ONE.

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Male 462
That`s bizarre, man!
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Male 102
guys if you want to TRANSLATE THE WEB PAGE GO TO http://babel.altavista.com/babelfish/tr AND ENTER THE URL CHOOSE RUSSIAN TO ENGLISH DON`T TRY GOOGLE CAUSE GOOGLE DOESN`T HAVE RUSSAIN TO ENGLISH ON BABEL FISH DOES
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Female 1,784
I do find that all the Disney Princeses look very simuler
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Female 193
that`s pretty interesting
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Female 346
Cindy: Regardless of whether or not there`s such a thing, it`s still really not appropriate to be rude to other members. She wasn`t suggesting that you had done the same thing, merely stating an opinion, and didn`t really deserve a derogatory comment.

While yes, I absolutely did see that you were using it as an example and not condoning it, in the end, it`s really you that looks ignorant for treating others as if they were unintelligent.

As for the under the sea/I can`t wait to be king person... I had to go "doo doo doo duh duh doo doo da da" in my head before I figured out they sound similar, but not the same. One was written by Elton John anyway, and the other wasn`t. That made me smile though.

As for the link... I think some of them are being lazy, but others might be tributes, like the Winnie the Pooh ones. Who knows though.

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Female 272
what`s wrong with editing something a little bit instead of redrawing the whole thing over again?
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Male 3
i think that reading that page translated into English was more entertaining than the pictures.

"Want more examples of cloning? There is no problem!"

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Female 1,697
Íåëèøíå îáðàòèòü âíèìàíèå, ÷òî, íåñìîòðÿ íà ïîëíóþ oh sorry, wrong lenguage :P

I haven`t noticed that about disney movies

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Female 109
thanks for the link STARTSOMETIN, that helped...
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Male 1,225
"its the same thing with some of disney music...listen to the beginning of under the sea and i just can`t wait to be king...
noticed that teh other day!"

Looking at the sheet music (as I`ve played both songs) They are completely different notes...

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Female 670
and over and over and over and over again
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Female 670
wow
is like fred flinstone runing in front of the same house over and over
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Female 394
"SELF-PLAGIARISM

When plagiarism is conceptualized as theft, the notion of self-plagiarism may seem impossible. After all, one might ask: Is it possible to steal from oneself? As Hexam (1999) points out, it is possible to steal from oneself as when one engages in embezzlement or insurance fraud. In writing, self-plagiarism occurs when authors reuse their own previously written work or data in a ‘new’ written product without letting the reader know that this material has appeared elsewhere. According to Hexam, “… the essence of self-plagiarism is [that] the author attempts to deceive the reader”. " - http://facpub.stjohns.edu/~roigm/plagiar...
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Interesting? Yes. Self-plagiarism? Yeah, guess so. Understandable self-plagiarism? Yes. So does it really matter? No.

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Female 531

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Male 14
[quote]On 4/27/2006 3:15:43 PM Angelicsnnr wrote: some of these make sence, other are from the same damn movie the color was restored thats it[/quote]Umm, no, backgrounds and time of day are different.

And looking at the people on this thread, you`d think "self-plagiarism" wasn`t even a real term, which it is, and which is exemplified by *some* of the examples on the website.

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Male 213
Hand drawn animation takes ages, I see no fault in using templates for shots.
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Female 136
some of these make sence, other are from the same damn movie the color was restored thats it
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Male 1,383
wierd :S
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Male 561
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Male 168
Have they ever re-used the pink elephants bit from Dumbo?
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Male 242
Neat
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Female 216
ok lestened 2 the strts n there not ezatly the same but they are similar
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Female 216
DONT SKIT BAMBI 2 i luv bambi lol n yea so what if its the same. but now i hav 2 listen 2 unda da sea n cant w8 2 b king
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Male 382
Heheh cheapskates...!
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Female 337
lol yeh, some disney films rock
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Male 1,014
Disney is an evil money grubbing huge corporation, but I do love some of their movies. Nothing wrong with what they did here, the big crime is the shameless whoring out of their own movies...Bambi 2? He grew up in the end of the first one for cryin` out loud! AAARRRGH! Okay I`ll chill out now lol.
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Male 189
Disney Songs are the greatest songs ever.
Disney movies are very good or very bad, there`s no between.

This is really creepy though

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Male 89
Well I always thought all disney characters and animations are very similar, but that`s also their style.
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Female 72
its the same thing with some of disney music...listen to the beginning of under the sea and i just can`t wait to be king...
noticed that teh other day!
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Female 531
Jenn, take the stick out of your ass. I was using it as an example. Not the best example, but it`s using one`s own work in another instance. That`s what I was getting at. And I`m hoping that others were smart enough to see that`s what I was saying, and NOT condoning reusing essay papers.
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Female 165
"It`s no different then me using an old essay paper in another class."

I`m not sure where you`re going to school, but resubmitting your own work in a different class is punishable with the same consequences as plagerism (in the sense of using someone else`s work) where I go to school.

And I think it should be.

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Male 1,365
Disney studios fired all of their animators, then released Chicken Little as their new masterpiece, that is their crime.
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Female 531
Someone already said it, but this is not the definition of plagiarism. It`s no different then me using an old essay paper in another class. It`s still mine, no matter WHERE I use it.
Yes, it`s lazy, but reusing the cells would cut down costs and such. I see nothing wrong with it.
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Male 2
As for the first two screenshots with the seven dwarfs, I believe that the second one is from one of Disney`s war-time shorts designed to sell war-bonds. These shorts were quickly and cheaply produced - they run no more than 1-2 minutes in length and are comprised almost entirely of recycled material from previous Disney shorts and the then only Disney feature-length animated movie Snow White. The short in question here is a complete lift of the scene from Snow White where the dwarfs walk home from the mine, only with altered backgrounds and a few new details to instead show the dwarfs walking to town to buy war bonds. Just an interesting piece of trivia on that.
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Male 943
yeah, its not plagiarism, its just the animators getting lazy.
Interesting stuff though.
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Male 1,115
Yup, recycle animation cycles and use it in other shows, not a new technique but still nice to know where they are at.
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Female 125
yeah plagiarism is using another`s work and passing it off as your own... this is not technically the same since it`s all under the `Disney` name and they probably do credit the right animators/artists etc. and most of that was just coincidence and similar movements/positions cause it`s like the disney equivalent of stage school (`surprise`/`laughing` etc expression/action).. and yeh it`s just to save time so they use similar backgrounds.. I thought this was gonna be about all the subtle stuff.. like nemo being in Monster`s Inc in toy form. as for the dalmations, if you had to draw a few lines of similar looking dogs wouldn`t u just do one and copy/paste?
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Male 14
[quote]On 4/27/2006 5:22:54 AM fk wrote: What`s with this "plagiarism" BS? [/quote]Because that`s the official term for such re-usal )-|
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Male 951
What`s with this "plagiarism" BS? But yes, it`s obvious that Disney re-uses work (those screen caps are good, and undeniable).
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Male 14
[quote]On 4/27/2006 4:03:25 AM cheeseboy wrote: wow they r like all exactly the same except 4 the one with the 2 coloured elephants.... didnt really understand that[/quote]They just mean that those two elephants weren`t drawn seprately, but cut and pasted.
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Male 1,385
probably more interesting if it was in english, jungle book/pooh stuff was right on
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Female 2,144
Hm, Very Interesting.
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Male 452
wow they r like all exactly the same except 4 the one with the 2 coloured elephants.... didnt really understand that
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Male 14
[quote]On 4/27/2006 2:20:36 AM B-Hazard wrote: still pretty interesting, though. Wish I could read what it said because I didn`t understand some of the pictures[/quote]Which ones? I`ll try to explain.
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Female 665
well they`re all classics... so what if they used doubles lol. we haven`t noticed them till now anyways lol.
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Female 1,071
so they use character sketch templates- saves them time and money on ciracells back in the olden days of animation.

still pretty cool.

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Male 2,958
still pretty interesting, though.

Wish I could read what it said because I didn`t understand some of the pictures

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Male 2,958
yeah...not so much plagiarizing as much as wanting to save time.
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Male 101
some of that is way past coincidence, pretty sad people have the time to find this stuff, and i have the time to look at it
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Male 2,703
eh, it happens. cartoons do it all the time to save on creative thinking for one, and cost to redo a strip. saves time and money...
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Male 289
Interesting...
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Male 10,115
Link: Disney Self-Plagiarism [Rate Link] - Disney copying itself? Interesting screen shots (but text is in Russian).
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