Katie Holmes told to keep silent during delivery

Submitted by: buddy 10 years ago
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006140204,00.html

This seems to be a Scientology tradition.
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Female 10
They named the baby "Suri." They dunno that Suri`s japanese for Pickpocket. :P And did they realize that screaming from the fans could have affected the baby? And the guy who said they were as crazy as muslims, hush up. I`m friends with muslums and they ain`t crazy.
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Female 59
^^ yeah leprecola, when I heared that I thought I was gonna throw up. I mean, that`s technically canibalism! They also believe in space demons, little green men, and they will probably drink poisoned koolaid in the near future.
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Female 84
Tom Cruise has lost it obviosuly

did u guys hear that he was going to eat the placenta and umbilical chord because its good for you?

I hope he chokes and dies

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Female 84
Tom Cruise has lost it obviosuly

did u guys hear that he was going to eat the placenta and umbilical chord because its good for you?

I hope he chokes and dies

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Female 1
Wow, hahahahaha that sucks for Katie!!!! Owwwww that`s going to hurt!!!! A man definantly came up with those rules of a lesbian nun or some old virgin somewhere
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Female 148
I`m sorry dear I really can`t understand what you`re trying to tell me,now calm down and- OMG!...my future heirs!!! *whimpers and falls to the floor with his hands over his groin* ...ok I got the message...*whimpers*

Pfft,I bet a man came up with that theory,can`t stand to hear the woman screaming so they decide to tell them a bunch of bull about it being damaging to the baby.

You try pushing something the size of a watermelon out of an opening the size of a lemon without pain killers then see how you scream...f#%kers

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Female 1,652
[spoiler]Katie: AHHHH!
Tom: Now, Katie! you`re supposed to be taking your vow of silence!
Katie: YOU TRY BEING SILENT WHEN YOU`RE ABOUT TO SQUEEZE A WHOLE FRICKIN BABY THROUGH A SMALL HOLE!!!![/spoiler]

lol...i can see it now.

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Male 2,600
Pain, is that what all that screaming`s about? Hm. All this time I thought it was a spiel to get heavily medicated.
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Male 206
Scientology is perhaps the biggest load of BS i`ve ever heard.

And to that one guy, the reason why female humans make noise during childbirth is because they are the only species that experiences pain during childbirth. It was a punishment for Eve taking a bite of that apple....

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Female 44
oops! I meant to say * And the rest of their beliefs tend to be rather bizarre , as well!
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Female 44
So far it seems to be a lot of what "Tom Says` and " Katie is DOING"~it`s like she`s turned into some kind of Stepford Wife. And Tom Cruise has just turned into a nutty control freak. I can`t handle the Scientology thing, I mean, I`m not keen on any "religion" ( ha! ) that you have to earn a certain amount of money to be a part of. And the rest of their beliefs are

If I were Katie, I`d be checking that house for all signs of duct tape before I go into labor, and promptly destroying any if found. Good luck to you, Katie, and your baby.

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Male 2,600
You know, one would think this Scientology craze would die out soon, as I don`t imagine its followers having many children...
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Female 1,972
Yeah, you want me to pass something the appx size and weight as a bowling ball thru something much, much smaller- oh and I can`t scream....can I rip of your testes with a bear trap? I didn`t think so.
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Female 108
alright, 1) he is completely nuts. not only in terms of this scientology poo, but in terms of EVERYTHING. he has gone off his rocker. 2) i don`t care how young she is, she`s still a moron for getting involved with him and getting pregnant with his child what...5 months after she met him?? riiiiight...this is ridiculous haha if some man told me to believe in some cult religion and said i couldn`t make any sound when i had my baby? and controlled every single thing i did and who i talked to? ummm he would be out that damn door so fast, he wouldn`t know what was coming haha. just can`t believe she`s going along with this.
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Female 6
Run Away Katie....Run away now
And don`t drink the kool-aid!!!
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Male 1,407
You know what I think? I think Tom Cruise is actually a staunch anti-Scientologist. By seemingly converting and taking all of its weirdness with him into the public realm, he wishes to expose it as a cult. Pure genius!
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Male 1,014
Somewhere in the afterlife on the planet ZX81 (or ZX82, if they run out of room), L. Ron Hubbard is laughing his ass off at the fact that some people are following the teachings of a science fiction writer.
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Female 607
Let`s all scream for her. Okay, everyone, when you hear the news of the baby`s birth (Or if you`re lucky, her just going into labour), lean out your windows and scream. Or scream at the TV. Or anything else. Scream at your kids, give them the "psychic" damage the Cruises are denying thier child!

lol

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Male 371
scientologists are idiots and thats all i can really say
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Female 706
"but I can`t think of a single animal that "makes a whole load of noise whilst giving birth." Not even one, other than humans. Anyone?"

You DO realize that childbirth is the MOST difficult for humans. Because we stand upright, our hips are closer together, and the child develops a little longer, and therefore it`s head is bigger than most other animals.
Did anyone also read the part where they can`t give it medical attention for a week?
"It`s not breathing!"
"Shhhh! The science commands it!"

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Male 1,521
Katie Holmes ambition will pay with a living hell with this pathetic little man and his ridiculous Cult! Idiots. How pathetic somebody has to be to enter a bloody cult? Specialy this Scientology Crap wich is so full nonsence, that makes the Jedi Nerd religion a better option! Tom cruise is ass! And I think he must be a fag too!
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Male 418
Just shut up Katie! and that baby keep him quiet...no crying please!
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Female 120
I`d like to point out- my mum had 5 of us and no medicine. She wasn`t screaming like a baby. I`d be more worried about the lack of interaction with the child after it`s birth. The touch of the mother is suppossed to connect them- and mum`s voice. I would assume that Katie would be more likely to have post-partum depression and detahcment. Just my thoughts.
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Female 82
I think if Katie has to stay silent for the delivery AND take no pain meds she should be allowed to punch Tom in the balls with every contraction! And no, HE can`t scream either.)-| This people are completely and utterly FUBAR! B-|
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Female 165
Mommy screaming during delivery ain`t got nothing to do with it. What the kid will need therapy for is being raised by parents who are members of a cult. I give Katie 6 months before she drops his crazy ass.
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Female 358
That`s such bullsh*t. Im sure my mom was probably screaming when i was born, guess i need therapy now.
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Female 380
Hmm...funny a religion called Scientology has so little to do with actual science.
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Female 220
Tom Cruise is such a loser.
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Female 1,784
well they had a gurl, poor thing shes got no hope.
And to Tom, what a waste off good looks its a shame really, so good looking, yet so so so stupid lol
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Male 2,781
HAHAHAHA I`M CONVERTING TO SCIENTOLOGY
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Female 205
"They think it can cause “psychic” damage, which takes years of therapy to overcome."

Because we don`t know the history of psychiatry, they do.

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Male 48
Haha...:->

I wonder what messed-up name they`re going to give it.

I bet it might even top Gwynneth`s `Apple` on the weirdest names list!

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Female 123
Tom`s mother must have screamed a hell of a lot...
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Female 237
*dies laughing* He post giant cute-cards around their house saying `Shut the fu(k up during delivery, or the baby will be fu(ked in the head!" XD!!!!!!!!!!
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Female 122
Why settle for his arm? I think a cricket bat between his legs would be a lot more painful. And you could keep whacking him there for however long Katie`s labor was. And if that doesn`t work, there are other methods of torture... }-)
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Male 168
<---is off to the cruise household with cricket bat in tow....
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Female 156
hrm. So technically I could go break Tom`s arm and he would be in serious danger of breaking every moral code in Scientology if he screamed like a little girl? Sweet.
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Female 5
Shame on you Katie, for falling for such unnatural B.S.
This is the most ridiculous thing I`ve ever heard of. Does Katie need Tom`s Hollywood influence so badly that she would embrace such a disturbing idea? Or is she such a dunce to be led by the nose by such an arrogant diamond encrusted peckerhead!!
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Male 2,600
For one thing, snottydyck, saying "[Scientologists] are as whacked out as muslims" is an insult to the Muslims.

And for another thing, it`s common to mock the cults of society, gnazzah. That`s what contributes to them being `cults`. But in this case particularly, I feel harsh criticism of Scientology is well deserved because they hold potentially dangerous ideals such as depriving the mentally ill and women in labor of medication. What gives? Drugs do help by providing\stimulating chemicals in the body and one is hopeless if they can`t accept that. Basic science, folks.

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Female 121
Wow, Scientology is absolutely silly. It`s such a joke that it seems like Ron Hubbard will burst out of the grave and shout "JUST KIDDING GUYS" at any minute. But the fact that people are serious about it is really, really sad. Minus ten points, human race.
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Male 1,586
...now if they can just get her to be silent the rest of the time as well.
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Female 1,062
PS I think being forced to stay completely silent during childbirth would be more traumatic for the mother. She`s not even allowed to talk to the kid for a week. They`ll be missing out on important mother-child bonding time.
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Female 1,062
It bothers the baby? Do they know how short a newborn infant`s memory span is? The kid isn`t going to be scarred for life because it`s mom made a noise.
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Male 31
See, now this is the sign of a *really* great entertainer.

Even their fruitcake religion is entertaining. Oh, you silly Sci-noids!

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Female 107
Religion`s so bloody stupid now. It used to be a way of life, now it`s just a trend. I say good luck to Katie!
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Female 1,784
Well, if it wern`t for ppl like Tom and kate we have nothing 2 tlak about lol
And it is impossible not to scream or even wimper when you have a football comming outta sumthing so small. Yeouch!, I dont even wanna think about it
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Male 203
Heh. I said poo.
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Male 203
Religious people mocking the scientologists are pathetic. You`re just as stupid. Only in different ways. Get a grip!

Or to you christians: Let the ones without stupid rites be the ones to throw the first poo on these dorks.

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Female 3
}-)You know many doctors say screaming beneficial to birthing because it aids in pushing. I would never be able to be silent to my baby for 7 days. How are u supposed to tell if the babys hearing is ok? No medical prodding? How are they supposed to clear the mucus from the babys lungs and nose and stimulate it to cry. I think these ideals are child abuse and sum1 should notify the department of child and family service!
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Male 4,431
Hey fluffy pink, I certainly don`t support this nutjob "no noise" policy or this nutjob religion, but I can`t think of a single animal that "makes a whole load of noise whilst giving birth." Not even one, other than humans. Anyone?
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Female 53
Idiotic. Silence in extreme pain? Yeah, right. Now speaking to the baby? Could actually drat it up. Their brains start developing right away, if I`m not mistaken. The stupidest part is the lack of medical tests. I hope the kid doesn`t have any illnesses.

And what happens if she requires a caesarian section?

Heh. I kind of fhope she gets post-partum depression, and that "vitamins and exercise" don`t help.

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Male 2,720
Little Tommy Cwuise, you fruitcake.
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Male 468
[quote]On 3/30/2006 2:38:37 AM laffs2much00 wrote: no pain killers lol! she`ll never be able to keep silent.[/quote]

its scary how you would know this

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Female 151
If I were her I`d be screaming not only during my labor, but constantly, in agonizing horror over the knowledge that I was carrying Tom Cruise`s spawn.

If that`s what she wants, more power to her. As someone pointed out on the Sun boards, she may have insisted on this herself. If that`s what she really wants, more power to her. I don`t believe a word of that "screaming will screw your baby up in the head" BS, but if it makes them happy, then why not?

Regarding the part about the baby being left alone for a day, if a mother who had just given birth told the nurse to take the baby away for an entire day, that would be cause for concern.

Whatever.
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Male 695
these guys are as whacked out as muslims
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Male 70
I wonder if girls aren`t supposed to scream during coitus either? Don`t want to cause your husband years of psychic damage!
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Female 252
I don`t think I can add anything that wasn`t already said. However, I bet the women that said "I would give anything to have Tom Cruise`s babies" are thinking twice about it now.
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Male 2,600
How wonderfully mad. I wonder if Tom will pummel Katie within inches of her life if she makes as much as a peep, which she undoubtedly will.

I must say, I pity that child.

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Male 115
So, they gave their reason for the silent birth... might disturb the child(this whole concept is disturbing me and I may need therapy after reading this article) but what the hell was their reason for the 7 days?

It didn`t say and I can`t imagine anything to justify even within their F`ed up dogma.

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Male 149
God bless Scientologists.
It`s the weirdoes that make this world interesting.
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Female 215
This is the most absurd thing I`ve heard! Some women don`t scream during birth, but those women tend to be on medication, and can talk. Ugh....

This just kinda pisses me off.

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Female 21
How can it be traumatic for a child to hear its mother`s screams during birth? Practically every wild animal on earth makes a whole load of noise whilst giving birth. Animals don`t have any religion or people telling them what to do and when thet do give birth they all manage to live harmoniusly as nature intended. Its only when we come along that things get messed up for them too! I think the 7 day silence thing is a way of cloning all scientology children to be the same. No proper contact or noise between mother and baby would probably cause very litle bonding and make it easier for the scientology freaks to take controlover both of them!
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Female 301
I hope she rips tom`s likely underdeveloped nuts off. Silently, slowly and deliberately, of course. If you`re dumb enough to believe in that scientology crap maybe you deserve a little pain!
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Female 1,211
gotta love the advertisement below:

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Female 7
have u seen how pregnant she looks! its like shes gona give birth to an elephant!!

this kid is sooo gona get beat up in school :( it will end up needing therapy anyways..

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Male 923
Way I see it, if the kid gets to cry when its born, least it can do is cut it`s mother some slack while she is giving birth. Little bastard, first they start by not letting you cry, then they bite you when you try making them eat their vegatables, next thing you know you have those out of control kids who are burning down a different room of the mansion every day :-/ And to think, it`sall because you let the little bastard (with the aid of a cult) convince you not to cry. There`s a lesson to be learned here... cry during birth then beat your kids till they`re obediant. (Note, beat in a nurturing way rather than an abusive way).
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Male 1,866
Yeh, well i only read half the article do to the fact that it`s 1 30. thanks though. `pretiate you reading it for me;-) know what i say? the baby can share some of the pain if it loves its mother!
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Female 2,144
What An Idiot. She`s Stuuuupid.
According To Their Beliefs Shizzaster If You Read It, It Happens To Be That It Disturbs The Baby To Hear Their Mother Cry And Scream.
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Female 50
Apparantly, if she keeps quiet, then the child won`t need years of future psychological therapy in the future to overcome the trauma of hearing their mother scream.

So, does that mean that I am in desperate need of therapy? Because I`m sure my mother was none too quiet when I came along.

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Male 1,866
just curious...
dont get mad at my so many posts in one thread but...
whats the point of increasing pain? what does she get out of being quiet? a slightly happier doctor/nurse?
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Female 50
kennapea: well said, well said.
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Male 1,866
waiiiiit, did you notice? the bottom part of the poster was folded so you couldn`t read it. wonder what that said!

"QUOTA FOR MOLESTATION: 4 girls 8 boys 2 fetus`

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Female 123
um yeah...the medicines are brainwashing...
the medicines.
not...you know, a cult that tells you to be ever-so quiet during childbirth.
O_O
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Female 50
You know, it`s stuff like this that makes me all the more grateful to be part of my religion. At least my church will let me scream and take epidurals to my heart`s content if ever I have a child. Oh, I`ll also be able to talk to said child during the first seven days.
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Male 951
It`s also a Scientology tradition to be an idiot, and she passes that one with flying colors too.
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Female 123
"Be silent and make all physical movements slow and understandable."

Now Katie, I don`t understand why you`re balling up your fists like that. Please slow it down and make understandable movements. No no, don`t speak, just focus on pushing out that watermelon-sized baby without the aid of any medication in the most impossible manner.

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Male 1,866
well since I have never had a child, nor will i ever, i can`t say that it would hurt and is wrong.
but the reason she can`t is because in scientology they think medecines are brainwashing substances created by ancient alien races to control us.
no joke...
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Female 27
no pain killers lol! she`ll never be able to keep silent.
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Male 118
Yeah I`m guessing a man came up with that idea. A silent birth. How damn stupid. Poor girl. What a life she`s got to look forward to with such a douche as her husband.
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Male 10,115
Link: Katie Holmes told to keep silent during delivery [Rate Link] - This seems to be a Scientology tradition.
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