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AS far as the other two towers go dont you think if a tower gets whacked by a MASSIVE plane on one side of the building it would TILT to the weakend side first? The top half fell STRAIT down on to the other part of the building.
- Osama bin Laden, days after 9/11/2001, from a statement to al Jazeera.
Of course, its not only possible but probable that Bin Laden and Al Qaeda would put out contradictory information to create confusion. However, this man doesn`t seem quite that eager to claim credit. He also seems to have a Road Runner-like knack for evading capture, even when he comes out of hiding to check into
And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Go, research, read the anomalies. You talk about
1:Bin Laden is Real.
2:Laden Recorded a Live Video of himself prior to the attack talking about it and praising his men.
3.Laden names men associated with the attack in a video before the attack, this video is shown after the attacks are successful.
4. These videos originate and show for the first time in the middle east from stations severely controlled by middleastern powers.
5. How the he** do you explain that?????^
enough said :)
These conspiracy people are idiots..or maybe they think Bin Laden isn`t a real person?!
I`m not the one who needs medication, its the people who feel the need to make everything into a massive conspiracy.
You people disohonor the lives that were lost by coming up with stupid theories about massive coverups and government complicity.
1. We already have many enemies and troops are deployed all around the world. If we really needed some type of war for budget then how come the offense into Iraq took only a few days. Why not make the war last a while so they can keep getting more money.2. People are far from united and the White House has done a horrible job at preventing that. Everyone understands that concept.3. President Bush is the main sponser and the one who passed those tax cuts a few years back that so many liberals were against. He is the one fighting to make them permanent as well.
Are you calling Charlie Sheen acredible source of information?!?!
What good is a goverment if the people know that it lies?
Well, lets make a hypothosis-1. Fabricate or facilitate an enemy attack on American soil. Check.2. Said attack unifies the American people for War against said enemy (see Pearl Harbor, USS Maine) Check.3. Spend billions (on mutaully beneficial corporate interests)to execute the war, even into deficit spending. Check.4. Profit. Its been a good few years for Haliburton, hasn`t it? Check.5. Leave office before said deifict spending bankrupts the nation. Pending.
Indigo, you`re confusing the war in Iraq with the War on Terror. Think about where the US was right after 9-11. Bush`s popularity was soaring at a career high. The entire nation, even the most reticent about war, were in favor of invading Afganistan to destroy Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. The US had the support and blessing of virtually every nation on the Earth. And then, Iraq, which did a pretty quick job of wiping out Bush`s popularity, international support, the national budget, and most of all, thousands of lives based on bogus intelligence.
MaHaBone, your insinuation that America framed the Islamofascist terrorists and your theory of a motive for the conspiracy are completely irrational. Turn on any news channel and you will see Muslim terrorists killing innocent people. Do you really think they are innocent of the 9/11 attack? Besides, it makes no sense for the U.S. to create a war it doesn`t need. War costs lives and money, which America always needs. Why waste those things when it doens`t need to?
Please, if you`re going to buy into another stupid government conspiracy theory, at least ask yourself if the whole thing makes sense before you embarrass yourself.
If this is supposed to be a conspiracy that benefits Bush, what exactly has Bush gained from all this? His popularity is way down, U.S. soldiers are dying, and the deficit is jacked way up. As far as I can tell, we haven`t taken any oil from Iraq. Our prices are still increasing.
Think. The terrorists also flew a plane into the Pentagon, and one was aimed at the White House. Conspiracy theorists claim the WTC towers were bombed when the planes hit. So, logic dictates that the White House and the Pentagon had bombs planted in them, as well.
This leads me to wonder why the U.S. government would bomb itself and cost itself billions of dollars and thousands of lives in a war that provides it no benefit other than to eradicate terrorism. You guys watch too many movies.
errr he said it once...
Bear in mind, no building EVER in the course of human history has collapsed by bomb, earthquake, weather, structural failure, or any other conceivable misfortune or combination of misfortunes, EVER. The ONLY way any building has ever collapsed in such a manner was by controlled demolition. Period. And on 9-11, it happened not TWICE, but 3 TIMES.
You think I`m wrong?
As for the government conspiracy crap, how do you conspiracy theorists explain the well-established fact that Al-Qaeda terrorists flew the planes? If the WTC towers had bombs, then did the White House have bombs, too? What about the Pentagon? Why would the government bomb the White House and the Pentagon? Like I said, I NEED A MOTIVE!!!
You said this:
"Do you know how much work goes into the demolition of those buildings when experts do the work?? And people are trying to say that they managed to hide explosives somewhere in the building(s) that could cause just the right amount of explosive force to not look to much like explosives but still have enough strength to knock down the building(s). Has anyone even ever done anything like that before? Are government must be amazing demolitionists. Best I have ever heard of."
All I said is I have a hunch that the government probably has some demoltions that neither you or the rest of the world are aware of. Unless you know every peice of arsenal they have?
You`re assuming that the US Government couldn`t blow up a building in a specific fasion just because the demolitionists that work for a living can`t. That`s just a moronic comparison.
Pres. Bush was not the only one screaming to go to war. The pretty much the entire Congress voted to go to war without a second thought. Besides, that is an opinion the Pres. Bush was desperate to get re-elected. Plus, if Pres. Bush was just using the war to get himself re-elected and win oil then, first, why are we still in Iraq after he has still been elected since he would be getting so much less crud from the media if he pulled out, and, second, where is all the oil at?
Next, in response to MahaBone:
My point comes in two parts. First, I believe that although the fire may have had an impact, I am guessing that the strong impact of the planes and their large explosions would be more then enough to weaken the buildings to the point where fire or future explosions could cause it to collapse. Secondly, nobody has every crashed a 747 into a building like that before so we have no idea what the effects would exactly be. We can just guess.
Aso for the other explosions, WTC plant employees have said they can`t think of a SINGLE THING that would explode like that, that far from impact. NY building laws are very strict about what kind of explosive fluids can be used in a structure like that.
It also doesn`t explain why explosions were seen 30, 40, even 50 floors lower (remember heat RISES) than the point of impact. Did all that fuel trickle down the stairs and elevators people were using, miraculously avoiding ignition, to pool in a lower floor and await the inevitable explosion?
1- The steel structure of each of the Twin Towers was actually surprisingly precarious. Upon hindsight, engineers have agreed on some of its (easily-prevented) shortcomings. Essentially, the builders favored light-weight design over durability, and so effectively UNDER-engineered it. They were afraid that if it was fortified too much, the sheer weight would pull it down. The elevator shafts were just about the only internal steel structure, with most of the weight resting on the outer walls of the building. When this "shell" was breached by the aircraft, the building`s entire structure crumbled. Picture, if you will, a Jenga tower.
2- The heat could not have reached a temperature sufficient to compromize the steel girders, and multiple explosions were seen after the initial impact. These are easily attributed to the wiring and heating systems within the building, as well as to all the electrical equipment in the offices.
RESEARCH THE FACTS. Read the counterarguments. Weight it all in your mind. Here is a good site for some basic armchair info about 9/11http://911research.wtc7.net/
The steel in the WTC is tested for 2000 degress F for over an hour. Jet fuel, under those conditions, burns at around 1500, and in this case, for only around 10 minutes. Secondary debris fires burn much much cooler. True, steel does lose a great deal of its strength when heated, but it is also a superb conductor, and would disperse so much heat across the structure that very little of it would get anywhere near 1500. The Twin Towers, like all skyscrapers, are extremely overengineered, designed to sustain several times their own weight.
bush was OBIOUSLY desperate to get re-elected right? and what better way then to seem patriotic about it????? what better way to get re-elected than by making your citizens believe that they HAD to re-elect you because if they didn`t, then they would be at risk?
dosn`t it seem slightly weird how fast bush was to go into the war? wouldn`t the PRESIDENT of all people think before he acted? so i mean comon, stop being so closed-minded about this and THINK.
Additionally, for all of you out there that are thinking that a steel building has never fallen due to fire, lets also remember the fact that a steel building, that has been standing for who knows how many years, has never had a 747 full of gas smash into it before. How do we know what the effect is gonna be?? If the plane exploded on contact, due to all of it`s gas, wouldn`t that be a large enough explosion to weaken the structure and additionally disintegrate the plane?
" It is the duty of the Patriot to protect his country from his government. "- Thomas Paine
cause then bush could go on t.v. and say "we gonna get us some terrrorrists" and everyone would cheer for him and think he`s a badass. THEN he can go to iraq and get sadam for trying to kill his dad, all the while having an excuse to take over some oil. He wouldn`t have been able to start a `war on terror` if there was no `terror` in the first place.
Lets also add the fact that a steel building has NEVER IN THE HISTORY of mankind has fell due to fie