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    buddy Male 30-39
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    January 19, 2006 at 12:15 am
    Link: Friends with Low Wages - We don`t have Wal-Mart here, so I don`t understand what`s so bad about them.
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    shipyard Male 30-39
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    January 19, 2006 at 3:14 am
    Basically...they set up their stores in areas with expansion rates above other close areas. They are a conglomerate, so they can lower their prices drastically compared to other stores in the area. They drive other local stores out of business, and dry up any job opportunities in the local area.

    After a few years, when they are the only business around, they bump up their prices a bit, to local standard. The workers get crap pay with no real security. Since it is a business, and not a trade, there are no unions to prevent this.

    Then, using the money from their local monopoly, they open a new store nearby. It is a cycle that refuses to end, all because people aren`t concerned about the next town to get hit...they only worry about their own pockets. So in the end...all of them end up losing.

    Basically, they use strong-arm tactics, that border on illegal in the US. Unions should be formed to regulate it, just like most other trades.

    (Last part is my opinion.)

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    Deftallica Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 3:21 am
    I work for Wal-Mart and I`m paid $16.30 an hour. That`s not a low wage in my book. But then, I`m on warehouse level.
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    halifax_girl Female 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 4:14 am
    I will never look at the smiley the same way.
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    bankvole Male 30-39
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    January 19, 2006 at 6:10 am
    Of course unions are needed. Not sure I understand the difference between a business and a trade,but if you have employees they have a number of legal and moral rights, and in order to ensure that those rights are upheld they need representation from a union. Otherwise the ordinary man just gets shat upon from a great height.
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 6:13 am
    Essentially, Walmart doesnt want corrupt, ie, liberal, people taking there profits for lame ass excuses not to work. So, they fire people who are trying to make the company go bankrupt. Unions are death for any company, look at the airlines, they are in debt year after year, because they have like 4 different unions. *Stewards, mechanics, pilots, air traffic control, need I go on?*

    If you feel that they are wrong for defending themselves, dont shop there, plain and simple.

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    tomfoolery1 Male 70 & Over
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    January 19, 2006 at 6:16 am
    lol whose seen the southpark episode about this
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 6:21 am
    There is a simpsons episode about it too
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    leaf_eater Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 9:22 am
    in the UK walmart doesnt exist. we have asda instead. hooray for asda (i only say this because their booze is cheap)
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    Sez-uk Female 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 9:44 am
    lol, asda ,,,,, tescos is cheeper!! actually sainsburys is the Don! whats the minimum wage in the US?
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    phroedoux Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 9:51 am
    Wal mart isn`t a trade because its just retail work. Hardly anyone stays there more than a few years. Which would also explain the lack of unions. The only people that form them are the ones that cant afford to quit and go find another job.
    They offer benefits for employees, but when you actually can get coverage for something, it never pays out.
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    FRANCESUX Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 10:03 am
    as much as i hate walmart, the union is even worse. granted, we needed it back in the day when worker mistreatment was commonplace, but now all they do is take a ridiculous amount of ur paycheck while doing next to nothing.
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    Sabre200000 Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 10:08 am
    The average/federal minimum wage in the US is $5.15 an hour. Some states are higher, Florida for example is $6.40 an hour. Oregon is $7.50 an hour. Washington is $7.63 an hour.


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    kathaclysm Female 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 10:21 am
    I really don`t understand how people "can`t afford" to get a job someplace else... if you "can`t afford" to live off a Walmart wage, then you have no choice but to go get a job somewhere else... in places in this country where Walmart has become the biggest/only employer in town, it`s just the town folk`s own fault for not supporting their own.
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    Aphecks Male 18-29
    641 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 10:44 am
    Argh Wal*Mart is the scourge of God. Didn`t they just get in trouble for taking out like 8% of employee paychecks for healthcare and only paid out 5% or something? Honestly if you are working at Wal*Mart with terrible pay you should definately try and develop some more occupational skills or learn a trade. I agree with Francesux completely, unions now a days do nothing and consume your paycheck.
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    b3nzyme Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 11:19 am
    well i am with the workers rights,i avent ever worked at walmart and i may have no right to say anything but i have worked at winn dixie adn was treated unfairly. they said if you asked for more hours you will be fired on the spot. they only gave me one day a week and when i had two days a week the next week i was off. that wasnt worth the gas money getting up there. i thought, well maybe ill just work real hard and be a good worker and it will show. they will see that "dam this guy really wants this job" and i will get more hours. no i didnt. it was some f`ed up policy they had that no matter what they couldnt. well instead they would take advantage of my workingness and have me doing the work of three people everyday i came in. eventually i moved from working stock, to working up front, to cleaning the bathrooms. I AM SERIOUS. i was SHAT upon. eventually i found a job somewhere else where i am the best worker& get payed the most.
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    b3nzyme Male 18-29
    279 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 11:20 am
    and i`m their newest employee and ive only been there half a year. they always call me when they need me for help and all and i get praised a LOT. now if i can go to a store like this and they actually respect the work i do and i went back to winn dixie and all they do is SHtIT upon me again then that tells you what kind of places these big stores like walmart and winn dixie are.
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    b3nzyme Male 18-29
    279 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 11:21 am
    big stores like walmart dont give a flunk about their workers because they have so many. well screw you walmart!
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    banananaman Male 18-29
    15 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 11:30 am
    Hands down I agree with a few of you! Wal-Mart is economically "bad" they have flooded the market with chineese goods. There used to be an embargo for the US to not but more than 15% of its textilles from China. To negotiate moving a Wal-Mart into china, the US govt. allowed that embargo to increse to 80%. And what do you know...the US now imports about 75% of its textilles from China! Yay!!! Then there is the "small business death" factor. Plain and simple you don`t like Wal-Mart QUIT SHOPPING THERE!!!!PLEASE. I have done my part. I have spent $6.50 (emergency) at Wal-Mart in the past 2 1/2 years. It isn`t that hard. The workers don`t need unions (they don`t work anyway, they just overinflate wages and end up hurting their trade). They just need less business.



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    Sabre200000 Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 11:32 am
    Your 13-17 and you get payed the most? I have a feeling that`s not true. Not to mention if you sign up for full time instead of part time you wold get more hours. There ya go...part time workers can only get so much in, and they fire them first too...just so u know, cause full time ones are worth the wages and the companies time.
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    Sabre200000 Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 11:33 am
    ^that`s for
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    gregor_samsa Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 11:33 am
    Stupid american workers.
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    Sabre200000 Male 18-29
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    January 19, 2006 at 11:36 am
    Here`s a good question how many hours do you work on average in your country?? I average 40hrs-50hrs of work a week. I know in some countries they only work like 25hrs a week or less...and no, anytime your sleeping/eating/having tea/on a smoke break doesn`t count as work. Then again there are places were people work 80+ woo

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    backdraft123 Male 13-17
    160 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 2:18 pm
    that was kinda funny. Not like bust a gut funny, but made me chuckle..
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    blank_space Female 13-17
    147 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 2:31 pm
    I work in a mcdonalds thats in a but we just rent the space from walmart, my moms a manager at that walmart..she loves her job..
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    jayembee Female 18-29
    580 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 3:29 pm
    well said ship. The main reason I don`t like wal-mart is because in small towns when they open up a store, they kill off the small town mum n` pop stores putting them out of work. Then often when they decide they aren`t making enough profits they will close down the store leaving small towns with no jobs and no money.
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    Beatneck Male 18-29
    26 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 3:35 pm
    What`s profitable opening a store in town with a population of 1,000? Which I`ve seen plenty of times
    going through smal towns on my way to snowboarding.

    Pretty much you`re forced to work at Wal-Mart. Get off work and shop for groceries at Wal-Mart. Anything you`ll ever need will be at Wal-Mart because the smalls shops had to shut down and work at Wal-Mart. Asinine.

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    Twist_13 Male 70 & Over
    64 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 4:10 pm
    "I owe my soul to the company store"....
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    IckBee Female 18-29
    116 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 5:13 pm
    Walmart wipes out other businesses and the people who worked elsewhere have to work there now. They end up with less benefits and less pay.
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    Wyrenth Male 18-29
    251 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 5:17 pm
    It`s a fine sentiment to tell people to stop shopping at Wal-Mart, but unfortunately, there are lots of OTHER low-wage jobs out there, especially in rural areas, that just don`t pay too well.

    Wal-Mart appeals to the many people out there who do have these low-wage jobs and are supporting a family. And if faced with the choice of supporting a healthy economy (by shopping elsewhere) or by squeezing as much food out of their dollar as they can, most in this group will choose the latter.

    It`s unfortunate, but unless you can force ALL businesses to pay upwards of $10 to $12 an hour, forget it. Between skyrocketing gas prices, utility prices, and other costs of living, there just isn`t enough money to go around.

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    Guinstar Female 13-17
    572 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 5:37 pm
    the average working hours in britain is 43.6 hours - i don`t think there are many countries with 25 hours average...
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    cutbullocks Male 18-29
    393 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 5:56 pm
    i dont care much about the state of walmart unions because i never shop there, and i definately wont work there so i dont really care about it
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    for_serious? Female 13-17
    1403 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 6:52 pm
    On a different chain-store note: Target Pharmacists can choose not to fill prescriptions if the prescriptions go against thier religions. That would be like The Morning After Pill. They won`t even fill it for rape victims.

    Ok, back on Walmart, did anyone hear about thier website? If you looked up Planet of the Apes, in the category where it says "If you liked this product then maybe you`ll like these:" it had Diana Ross CDs, and other african-american products.
    If you didn`t get that I`ll explain; WalMart was basicallly saying blacks are apes. WTF!?!?! They changed it, but that was just wrong on so many levels.

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    Still1more Female 18-29
    2 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 7:13 pm
    Just a note for those in the uk, ASDA is wal-mart... ;-) And just a useless piece of info, they employ 1.5 million people worldwide.
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    TabooPoison Female 18-29
    1062 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 7:40 pm
    Wal-Mart = trash.
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    look215 Male 18-29
    1084 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 8:08 pm
    so true about Walmart being anti- union. There was a Walmart store in Quebec that was right out closed down just as they were putting in a Union. There claim was that the Walmart was " loosing money" and they still hold the Lease on the building for another 20 years. they are currently in court over it.
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    shizzaster Male 13-17
    1866 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 8:15 pm
    didnt make me laugh cuz all the people who work at walmart are WOMEN
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    buddy Male 30-39
    10116 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 8:27 pm
    We have no Wal Marts here in Los Angeles where I live, the closest thing we have I suppose is Target. I think they are mostly in more rural areas. I`m surprised the Wal Mart people have not formed a union. If they really want to, they can.
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    Sparkly Female 30-39
    240 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 10:01 pm
    I agree, Wal*Mart is evil, but I couldn`t watch this clip. I only lasted through three seconds of Garth Brooks` singing before my head started to blow up and I had to stop it.
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    SnowWolf Female 13-17
    349 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 11:07 pm
    Although Walmart is being a little tough on the unions I don`t think there should be an unlimited number of unions running around asking for whatever they want. It makes businesses bankrupt and cheapens the service or products they sell to help compensate for the how much they have to pay the workers.
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    jjcruiser13 Female 18-29
    706 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 11:17 pm
    Wal*Mart is also the worst store for customer service. I had to go through 6 different people just to get some friggin` reading glasses. My friend got accused of stealing (although the tape showed she had stolen nothing) and they still kept her there for hours. The lady said she had stolen chapstick, but the chapstick was obviously very used. But the lady said that my friend ATE some of it so it wouldn`t look stolen.
    And they accused me of comp shopping (takeing their prices) when I wasn`t, and sother stores like shopko doesn`t comp shop, but they do. Retards.
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    Simcoe Male 30-39
    126 posts
    January 19, 2006 at 11:43 pm
    JibJab`s take on the matter.

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    angelbrat Female 18-29
    178 posts
    January 20, 2006 at 12:54 am
    Oh my gosh. I actually love walmart. They have everything there. If y`all don`t like it, then don`t shop there. Like many have said. Obviously if y`all are shopping there, be it because of the prices, or because you are "forced" ::eyeroll:: to work there, then like..don`t. Go to college and get a job that isn`t meant for teenagers, kay? Or, hey! Heres an idea, go to a fast food joint, steal more jobs from the teens. :) Obviously walmart is a popular store, otherwise people wouldn`t be bitching about it.

    Oh, and by the way, No, I don`t shop at often, because i`m to cheap, Damn, go to family dollar or dollar store if you hate it /that/ much. Every place has them.

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    kurry Male 30-39
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    January 20, 2006 at 1:30 am
    I won`t go into detail about massive corporations wiping out the mom and pop independents (Starbucks, WalMart, et al), enough has been said about this already. What people should be aware of, specifically in the U.S., is that these mass retailers like WalMart and it`s competition DOMINATE seeminly unrelated markets, ie. the music industry.
    According to the music industry figures, 30,000 new titles are released each year. Yet, WalMart sees fit to stock only 300 titles on their shelves. Given, a vast selection of the aforementioned 30,000 titles are crap, I think it is safe to assume that a representation of a mere 1% of the total American catalog for that one year is demonstratably proving some sort of agenda. Don`t forget the PMRC (Parents Music Advisory Council) and organization with NO MEMBERS (ask them, true!) stickers albums with objectionable material. Albums with PMRC stickers are not stocked by WALMART. Artists should fear WALMART. We should fear WALMART. Screw WALMART!
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    lolakitty72 Female 30-39
    1972 posts
    January 20, 2006 at 6:52 am
    All this flaming aside- Walmart does have some serious issues here in the Northeast. The No. Brunswick store was raided by INS for knowingly employing undocumented/fruadulent documented workers, as well as locking them in at night-chains on the doors no less, and then paying them a fraction of their regular wage. Some other locations were paying & promoting men more than their female counterparts in the same positions. I don`t shop there or at any of their subsidiaries (i.e.: Sam`s Club)
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    guardateciel Female 18-29
    727 posts
    January 20, 2006 at 4:53 pm
    yeah I hear that walmart workers don`t get treated fairly I suppose they could just quit and find another job though it may no be easy depending on the area that they live hilton though walmart sold walls lol what a dumbass
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    guardateciel Female 18-29
    727 posts
    January 20, 2006 at 4:58 pm
    Guinstar average working hours in america is a 48 hour week I think....anywho I was looking into it a while ago so there you go
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    thecranberry Male 18-29
    731 posts
    January 20, 2006 at 5:50 pm
    i was dumbfounded when wal-mart opened up a store within eyeshot of ancient aztec temples. "hi we`re a major corporation and we dont give a flying f*ck about your culture! oh so youre going to boycott us? good luck, you stupid mexicans!"
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    glitter bitc Female 13-17
    496 posts
    January 21, 2006 at 3:54 pm
    i don`t really have that much of a problem w/walmart, it`s cheap & there`s a lot of crap. i probably represent the average ignorant american
    :) but i do no that walmart alone is china`s third biggest customer, buying more from china than many countries. 90% of their products are imported. thats not good 4 our economy.
    still, no problem w/walmart
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    squee13 Female 18-29
    406 posts
    January 24, 2006 at 1:40 pm
    i went on holiday in the u.s. and went to walmart, gawd your smallest walmart is bigger than our biggest tesco! they even sold guns and tyres and had a mc donalds!
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    Stingray955 Male 13-17
    163 posts
    February 24, 2006 at 4:55 pm
    Have you ever seen that one big movie about Wal-Mart? That movie says its all. Walmarts destoys small towns. The bookstore, 2 grocies, and some other business`s have closed down. For instants, Wal-Mart may have the top 100-150 books, this is enough to make the bookstore close.

    There is evidence that Wal-mart is illegally cheating it`s workers of their money. They hire a slow amount of workers and make them work overtime. BUT, they don`t pay overtime. So they`re just like, "Well, get the job done by tomorrow."
    I`m not saying all Wal-Marts do this.

    And what about the workers in China? Those who work 5AM-10PM, in a hot sweatshop?

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    evilempress1 Female 13-17
    417 posts
    June 12, 2007 at 5:35 pm
    this is one of my favorite anti-walmart videos.

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