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84 Responses to Face Transplant Recipient Out in Public

  1. Profile photo of buddy
    buddy Male 30-39
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    January 31, 2006 at 2:23 am
    Link: Face Transplant Recipient Out in Public - Yes, there is a picture.
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    notapervert Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 2:37 am
    .............
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    lolakitty72 Female 30-39
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:01 am
    The woman`s story is interesting...but I am troubled by the fact that she is back to chain smoking again while still in hospital, and the possibility going back on drugs seems likely. I fear we will be getting less than positive news about the face tranplant lady in the near future if she fails to get a grip on the negativity/inactivity within and embrace life.
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    korvus Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:18 am
    Lovely...
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    cruxshadows Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:39 am
    It Does Look Kinda Loose.
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    halifax_girl Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:40 am
    What a creepy woman.
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    Potato_man Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:47 am
    i was expecting the picture to be of her ripped up face
  8. Profile photo of AndyJP
    AndyJP Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:51 am
    Yeah, she looks alot better than I expected.
  9. Profile photo of neant
    neant Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:53 am
    does anybody else find "the donated face of suicide Maryline Saint-Aubert" to be more than a little disturbing?
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    georgiascool Female 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 4:17 am
    ^I do.
    50 surgeons! Wow.
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    CherryPie109 Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 4:25 am
    Very interesting article tho did remind me a little of Hannibal the canibal the part about the dog eating her face.......gross!!!!
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    CherryPie109 Female 18-29
    54 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 4:27 am
    Well maybe the dog didn`t eat her face... but still scary if i ever take a drug over dose the dog is well and truely gonna be locked outside...
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    withnail101 Male 30-39
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    January 31, 2006 at 5:37 am
    There is something deeply disturbing about it. Also, if her body rejects the new face, what are they going to do then? It doesn`t bear thinking about.
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    ShishKebab Female 18-29
    192 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 5:42 am
    That`s messed up. So`s the happy-slapping article I read from the bottom of the page, but this is just wierd.
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    funkycrs Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 6:14 am
    she`s not even fully recovered, and already chain smoking. I honestly HOPE her body rejects the face.
  16. Profile photo of bubbles2005
    bubbles2005 Female 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 7:04 am
    Happy slapping got banned at my old school after someone ended up in hospital. I think that the woman deserves a face, but should not get a second chance at it if she f**ks that one up. I thought it was gonna be a gross pic. I was so disappointed- I had even positioned my mouth so it wa sprotected from the bad germs. :-?
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    Melxoxo Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 7:17 am
    isnt there someone more deserving out there, like a burns victim... shes suicidal, a druggie, a smoker and seems very ungrateful
  18. Profile photo of ajax1829
    ajax1829 Male 30-39
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    January 31, 2006 at 7:20 am
    ^^^ True dat, true dat
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    TiclkedPink Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 7:26 am
    Maybe it`s because of that, the first real one was performed on her? But that reason is not very ethical.
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    Rammstein221 Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 7:32 am
    Why`d they waste a real face? Couldn`t they have given her the "Michael Jackson"? You know with all the plastic and junk.
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    strangergoat Female 18-29
    588 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 7:36 am
    that`s an amazing piece of medical work.
  22. Profile photo of amba
    amba Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 7:50 am
    I`m not sure I agree with the opinion that because she was suicidal she doesn`t deserve a face. Sure she may have wanted to kill herself, but with the other infomation in this it sounds like she may have had depression. I`m not saying just because she may have had depression she deserves it more than other people, just that she may have had problems, and people shouldn`t look down their noses at people just because they have depression or whatever.
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    Melxoxo Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 8:14 am
    its got nothing to do with depression, the fact shes not grateful, she smokes and had a drug overdose is enough reason.. a burns victim would have been more deserving
  24. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 8:33 am
    Face transplantation should be illegal. It raises too many ethical questions, in my book. And yes, in this case, she did not deserve the new "face".
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    Pandasims Female 18-29
    504 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 8:35 am
    it just horrible shes basically wearing a dead persons face.....ick
  26. Profile photo of Melxoxo
    Melxoxo Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 8:41 am
    ^ thats exactly what shes doing
  27. Profile photo of Youphoric
    Youphoric Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 8:44 am
    "Face transplantation should be illegal. It raises too many ethical questions, in my book. And yes, in this case, she did not deserve the new "face"."

    Why should it be illegal? If a person who dies is an organ donor, and skin is an organ (yes, it is) why should that be exempt?
    What ethical questions does it raise?
    I don`t think this should be illegal, by any stretch of the imagination, but there should be a rigorous screening before candidates are chosen.

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    Melxoxo Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 9:33 am
    ^ yeh its basically a skin graft, they could however add face to the donor form.. if your taking someones nose or lips theres no problems, i think itd b freaky if they used it to make you look exactly like the deceased person
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    KapnKaos Male 30-39
    53 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 10:21 am
    My abnormal psychotic powers of foretelling the future tell me that this face transplant will end up as just a face plant somewhere having to do with concrete...and a jackhammer.
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    bram Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 10:29 am
    It wouldn`t make her look like the dead person, no matter how much of the old face they used. The skin would be new skin, but the old bone structure, so it would look like a third, different person.

    And I agree that she was not the most deserving candidate. I saw something on Discovery Health though, that said there are two teams of doctors attempting face transplants. Obviously the French team got there first, but the American team is still working and the candidate they`ve chosen is a woman who was burned fleeing a building at 9/11.

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    Melxoxo Female 18-29
    335 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 10:41 am
    ^ the lady that has already recieved the transplant recieved the deceased persons lips and nose, there will be a day where they use the entire face and except for the overall face shape, they could look a lot like the donor..

    thats the french for you i guess, ignorant! at least the american is deserving.. just a thought, dont majority of french smoke?

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    squee13 Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 11:33 am
    another reason i hate dogs...
  33. Profile photo of realblender
    realblender Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 11:38 am
    when i go for a walk i never get this much fuss or debate...
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    hd42slt Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 11:48 am
    You guys should seriously go into bioethics. I find it fascinating how a group of trained people with knowledge about medical ethics and with full information about a patient`s situation can agonize over an ethical dilemma like who`s worthy of receiving a transplant....while you can just jump to the answer after reading an article from the Sunday Times. It`s an amazing skill, really.
  35. Profile photo of madgefan
    madgefan Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 11:55 am
    Really Interesting Article. Very brave woman. Sounds auful(attack). 50 surgeons, wow!
  36. Profile photo of neetfreek
    neetfreek Female 40-49
    119 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 11:59 am
    No one is perfect. Maybe she had a lot of problems and tried to commit suicide but that doesn`t mean she`s a bad person.
  37. Profile photo of look215
    look215 Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 12:28 pm
    Damn sciencefiction meets reality. Face off is actually real now . And plus I think she looks awesome for just less than a year of recuperation.
  38. Profile photo of boyblunder
    boyblunder Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 12:55 pm
    i for one rea that as transportation for some reason and thought we`d see a face in a cooler...crap.
  39. Profile photo of duncstar
    duncstar Male 18-29
    237 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 1:13 pm
    Circumstances aside, as someone from the medical profession, I find this amazing. This is most definitely a HUGE step for prosthetic surgery and rehabilitation. Props to the surgeons, well done Frenchy!

    -dunc

  40. Profile photo of Twist_13
    Twist_13 Male 70 & Over
    64 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 1:53 pm
    God forbid any of you nay sayers ever need medical help...
  41. Profile photo of webby-boy
    webby-boy Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 1:55 pm
    did anyone think about how long she had no face? (well, i mean a face that was realy badly torn up from the dog attack) poor woman :-(
  42. Profile photo of Lorah
    Lorah Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 2:40 pm
    eww... its liek the movie Face Off with John Travolta and Nick Cage
    gross imagion were those lips have been. so wrong
  43. Profile photo of Toodlepuff
    Toodlepuff Female 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 2:49 pm
    No before?


    Suckage

  44. Profile photo of Mazztek
    Mazztek Male 40-49
    586 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 3:01 pm
    Well, alrighty, then!
  45. Profile photo of petitecitron
    petitecitron Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:01 pm
    I had a friend who got mauled in the face by her pet dalmatian. It just went crazy one day. It really messed her up, too. Broke her nose. She healed and looks fine now, though. I can`t imagine how horrible it would be to have your entire lower face ripped off by a dog. Ugh. I hope she at least couldn`t feel it.

    Too bad she had to start smoking again.

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    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 3:06 pm
    Some may not think alike, but I just don`t envision there will ever exist a face transplant form authorizing the individual use of someone`s nose, lips, eyebrows, etc. with a checkbox. Meaning... if I were to sign up as an organ donor, and authorize my face being used for face transplantation, there`s nothing to prevent a doctor from using my whole face. To me, my face is the most physical personal thing about me, and I wouldn`t want anyone using it as a part of their identity. Damn that sentence sounds weird. Where will science go next?

    I`m not talking about skin being exempt from transplantation - this is already prevalent in practice. My argument is exclusive to the `face`, the most unique and personal possession anyone is born with.

  47. Profile photo of neetfreek
    neetfreek Female 40-49
    119 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 3:22 pm
    a face has a bone structure behind it. I hardley think that your face on someone else would look like you...
  48. Profile photo of GypsyCassie
    GypsyCassie Female 18-29
    880 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 3:43 pm
    It would freak me out to have someones face on , like the Devil`s Rejects....
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    stikfas Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 3:59 pm
    new mouth basicly.
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    SpaceDyeVest Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 4:03 pm
    What does the smoking thing have to do with anything?

    Should smokers be denied all medical care now?

    As for the circumstances which placed her in the situation: Are those who attempt suicide and survive not allowed a second chance at life?

  51. Profile photo of Juicy_Juice
    Juicy_Juice Female 13-17
    328 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 4:20 pm
    a bit loose, although a great medical accomplishment
    and just because she doesn`t live a perfect life, she doesn`t deserve to be able to wake up in the morning with a normal face? if that`s the case then I don`t know anyone who would deserve it...
  52. Profile photo of Ophelia*
    Ophelia* Female 18-29
    36 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 4:22 pm
    I want a before/after shot. That must be a werid feeling, having someone else`s face.
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    OctobeR_God Female 18-29
    223 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 4:27 pm
    It`s not that she dosn`t deserve medical care because of her being a smoker, but she has a new face, you`d think she`d be a little less numb about it. she seems to be ungreatful and obliviant (sp?).

    This is without a doubt an amazing medical breakthrough. but I too think they should have found someone a little more in need. akthough now they experimented it on her and if it had gone wrong, at least it wouldn`t hurt some poor burn victim.

  54. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 4:44 pm
    neetfreek, I doubt they would even consider transplanting my face to someone else`s head that didn`t have a similar bone structure. I`m sure you can imagine what a large face folded onto a small head would look like, or vice versa.
  55. Profile photo of _chloe_
    _chloe_ Female 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 4:45 pm
    I wouldn`t be able to live with that face knowing that part of the face I now have is from a girl who commited suicide. Just looking at that bit of face creeps me out so bad.
  56. Profile photo of doZer_roZZ
    doZer_roZZ Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 5:03 pm
    Something isn`t right.....They don`t tell who donated anything......I wouldn`t think they would know who the donor was?????
  57. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 5:14 pm
    I`m sorry you think so, Targo. I think you`re trying to find some deeper meaning in my comments and came to a false conclusion.
  58. Profile photo of thecranberry
    thecranberry Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 5:14 pm
    ^i concur. if your indentity is based around your physical appearence you couldnt be much to talk to. and anyway, i would want my stunning good looks to live as long as possible. it would be my contribution to the good of humanity. im SO DAMN SEXY...not really.
  59. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 5:22 pm
    Well they can`t cut sections of your personality off and stitch them to someone else, now can they? As far as physical identity goes, that`s a different story.
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    Micro_opolis Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 5:33 pm
    ... interesting
  61. Profile photo of for_serious?
    for_serious? Female 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 5:47 pm
    Dulaps.
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    jono142 Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 6:22 pm
    thats a bit boring init?
  63. Profile photo of Tegeno
    Tegeno Male 13-17
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    January 31, 2006 at 8:34 pm
    whoa wtf...
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    nvisiblegirl Female 30-39
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    January 31, 2006 at 8:45 pm
    While I`m impressed by the medical feat, I`m more curious about the dog. WTF Fido?! That`s gratitude for you!
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    cannibal151 Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 8:51 pm
    i wish i had another face
  66. Profile photo of AVDPhoenix
    AVDPhoenix Male 30-39
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    January 31, 2006 at 9:02 pm
    Terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!! It`s so weird and creepy! Crazy scientists, I find it wrong all this Frankenstein busines! It`s just not right to walk arond with somebody elses face! Poor woman! I do not understand how come her bloody dog ate her face!!!!! Isn`t that just fcng Crazy??????
  67. Profile photo of maddog22_06
    maddog22_06 Male 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 9:07 pm
    yeah id tap that...right off the face of the earth

    ooooooooooo dayum!

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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 9:18 pm
    AVDphoenix, what do you mean it`s "not right"?
  69. Profile photo of Twist_13
    Twist_13 Male 70 & Over
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    January 31, 2006 at 9:45 pm
    Guess every one with transplanted organs best return those as well, wouldnt wantAVDPhoenix to think they werent "right".

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    Twist_13 Male 70 & Over
    64 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 10:06 pm
    On 1/31/2006 3:06:11 PM Overmann wrote: To me, my face is the most physical personal thing about me, and I wouldn`t want anyone using it as a part of their identity... My argument is exclusive to the `face`, the most unique and personal possession anyone is born with.

    That has to be one of the most vain things I have ever heard in my life. If your "face" is the most unique thing that you have, you as sorely missing out on life and the ability we have. Sheep to the slaughter...

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    teiso Female 18-29
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    January 31, 2006 at 10:50 pm
    It`s not about who DESERVES it more. If we start judging on "Who deserves it and who doesn`t" ... means we`ll start making judgements on who we will save and who we will let die based on how nice a person they are rather than who needs the treatment more, or the quickest. It`s not a decision we should be allowed to make. We help who we can, and we don`t deny treatment to someone just because they are depressed.
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    iluvrevenge Female 13-17
    369 posts
    January 31, 2006 at 11:43 pm
    she still fugly dammn! poor lady no wonder she went back to chain smoking , her face isnt hers, her face is the face of a woman who fudgeing killed herself how depressing! she probably has nightmarers about that chick
  73. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    February 1, 2006 at 12:03 am
    Twist_13, perhaps you misunderstood. When you think about it, the face is the most distinguishing physical characteristic about any average person. With it, you can recognize anyone for who they are at a glance. That is why it is important it remains unique to each individual. This has nothing to do with vanity.
  74. Profile photo of DestyNova
    DestyNova Male 18-29
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    February 1, 2006 at 2:45 pm
    Wow. I was pretty sure that after the procedure they said she wanted to remain anonymous . . . I`m surprised she changed her mind.
  75. Profile photo of omgitsamoose
    omgitsamoose Female 18-29
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    February 1, 2006 at 3:24 pm
    personally, i wud be soooooo creeped out by having some poor dead persons face and it dosnt really help that the nice chap in person was a suicide victem....
  76. Profile photo of Twist_13
    Twist_13 Male 70 & Over
    64 posts
    February 1, 2006 at 8:32 pm
    Well Overmann, we best start killing identical twins as well too. Would not one of those sneaky bastards out there looking like someone else.
  77. Profile photo of Cindy_
    Cindy_ Female 30-39
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    February 1, 2006 at 11:07 pm
    That`s amazing. Really and truly amazing.
  78. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
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    February 1, 2006 at 11:11 pm
    I was waiting for one of you to bring up identical twins. My response is that identical twins are unique in their own right in that (can you guess?) they share their physical appearance. That`s what sets them apart (at least physically) from everyone else. My uniqueness is my appearance (face) is shared by no one else. A twins` uniqueness is that they share their appearance with one other. I hope I explained that simply enough and further hope that you`ll stop misinterpreting my opinion as vanity.

    Edit: Are you suggesting we kill people because of their uniqueness, Twist_13? (Because, believe it or not, twins are unique.)

  79. Profile photo of cargarbinx
    cargarbinx Female 18-29
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    February 2, 2006 at 1:02 am
    Sometimes I wonder why my life is so pathetic that I have to stoop down to going on this website almost every hour. Then I wonder why I actually read these crazy articles. But most of all, I wonder why I read the comments, following the articles and games and weird stuff...? I mean, it is amusing but it`s all the same every single time. It gets quite boring after a while, but for some reason, you can`t stop reading till the very last freakin` comment. I really need to get a life.
  80. Profile photo of cargarbinx
    cargarbinx Female 18-29
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    February 2, 2006 at 1:03 am
    BLAH! "I come for the wuggas, but stay for the jiggy juggas... Puh."
  81. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    February 2, 2006 at 2:11 am
    Sure, that`s why this lady is getting all the attention right now. But what you`re missing is that it`s someone elses` face (whether that person is deceased or not) meaning this recipient is usurping a portion of that person`s identity, at least physically.
  82. Profile photo of babyy_yn
    babyy_yn Female 13-17
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    February 4, 2006 at 1:50 pm
    hmm...the whole wearing sum1 else`s face reminds me of that texas chainsaw movie...creepy
  83. Profile photo of IceErines
    IceErines Female 18-29
    120 posts
    February 10, 2006 at 12:20 am
    What is the big deal? She has someone`s face(Which probably doesn`t look like the original)and she tried to kill herself. Well, better close the suicide ward- wouldn`t want anyone to live...Didn`t anyone consider the fact that maybe her life sucked? She was a druggie and wanted to die. How can we judge her? Are you perfect? Should we let all drug addicts die? It`s quite sad...actually. Yes, she caused it herself in many ways but all of the stupid crap that hurts all of us is caused by ourselves,too. Should we all be cold about eachother`s plites?

    Just seems to me that no one has the right to say if she deserved it or not. It`s done...someone lives while someone died. Why get into hysterics about it?

    And WTF does her smoking have to do with anything? Are smokers less deserving? Hell, if my face had been eaten off by my dog- I wouldn`t just be smoking cigarretes...I`d be chiefing.

    And that`s simply my opinion.

  84. Profile photo of teiso
    teiso Female 18-29
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    February 19, 2006 at 4:55 pm
    Twist_13, you are being a jerk. I think if someone really needed it, I wouldn`t be completely opposed to someone using my face (as long as I`m dead first and all that) but I do understand what Overmann`s saying. And I don`t think it`s a good enough reason to not have face transplants at all if the parties are all willing, but he`s not saying that, he`s just saying why he, himself, is uncomfortable with it. And it`s a valid reason, and true. It has nothing to do with vanity as he`s already mentioned, and it has even less to do with twins which is completely off the topic.

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