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202 Responses to Over Three Hundred Proofs of God`s Existance

  1. Profile photo of MikePiano
    MikePiano Male 18-29
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    November 20, 2005 at 10:53 pm
    Link: Over Three Hundred Proofs of God`s Existance - A page trying to prove God`s existance in 300 ways.
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    lakerzz8 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:32 am
    He does not exist...bs
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    HOBYandy Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:37 am
    lakerzz8. you are an idiot. this wasn`t trying to prove that he does exist. it is making fun of the way that fundamentalist christians argue his existance. did you actually read the page?
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    strangergoat Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:50 am
    i didn`t read much... but:
    MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
    (1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
    (2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    I find him completely un-necessary! :P

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    whatup09 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:59 am
    this proves nothing but a word. in almost all 300 cases, it proves that "god" exists through something else. you could replace "god" with "bob saget" and it could still be true. you can replace god with playstation 4 and that would prove that exists....which it doesnt...yet....in other words, this is proving the existance of a word rather than a concept, idea, or real thing at all
  6. Profile photo of ibigfire
    ibigfire Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:00 am
    Well, I`m incredibly offended.

    Oh wow, just came back from reading the "Why Atheism?" website he links. He`s got a lot of crap to say about something he obviously hasn`t studied enough of. Would anybody be interested if I did my best (I`m just finishing my first year of college, so don`t expect anything fancy, just a layman`s attempt) to tear apart the "Why Atheism?" article?

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    whatup09 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:02 am
    ....or it could just be a joke....look at the last 200...
    #88. BENDER’S ARGUMENT (I)
    (1) One day, demons were tap-dancing on my roof. I prayed and they went away.
    (2) Therefore, demons are really good dancers.
    (3) Also, God exists.

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    strangergoat Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:08 am
    a joke?! never!! my god!

    heh.

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    shumphrey Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:18 am
    the "necessary/unnecessary" one is worded wrong. the actual argument is:
    1) It is either necessary that God exists or it is impossible that God exists.
    (2) It`s not impossible that God exists.
    Therefore, (3) it is necessary that God exists, from which it of course follows that (4) God does in fact exist.

    However, this argument also has sufficient flaws, but is philosophically debatable.

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    ibigfire Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:21 am
    No, sorry, I should have clarified. I was talking about the "Why Atheism?" site that the "300 Reasons..." site links to. I understand he was making fun of some of the arguments Christians try and use on the "300 Reasons" site, which I`ll admit, some are kind of stupid. Heh. All sides try and use stupid arguments sometimes...
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    smcnic10 Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:21 am
    Hah, loved this one:

    ARGUMENT FROM HALF A WING
    (1) Half of a wing is useless!
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

    ibigfire...actually, he`d probably love it if you tore apart his article. Atheists enjoy a good debate.

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    ibigfire Male 18-29
    292 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:27 am
    Hooboy, it`ll take me weeks... that`s a long one. But I`ll give it shot, make a website, then post it on i-am-bored.com when I`m done :)
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    MeNoeNgLiSh Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:47 am
    You people should not make fun of our creator
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 3:53 am
    ha look at my own creation


    The ajikan argument.
    (1)Only stupid people think god exists
    (2)Therefore he exists only for them


    (2,3)dont argue with this, I have absolute power in this matther, and will declare myself the winner

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    upendy Female 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 4:27 am
    shut up
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    HOBYandy Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 4:28 am
    abigfire, don`t bother. IAM doesn`t accept personal home pages.

    and i`m astonished that people still think that this guy is trying to present valid arguments. he`s not. once again, he`s making fun of how most fundamentalist christians argue their case. and sadly, he`s right.

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    FRANCESUX Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 4:30 am
    listen up maggots. you are not special. you are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. you are the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
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    engelbert Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 4:41 am
    REPETITIVE ARGUMENT (I)
    (1) I have seen this about a million times.
    (2) It`s just as boring every time I read it.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.
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    streb Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 4:42 am
    Ha - No.263:
    # ARGUMENT FROM YOUTH GROUP MINISTER
    (1) God is awesome!
    (2) Like, totally, dude!
    (3) Therefore, God, like, exists and stuff.

    Well, I`m convinced.

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    despistada Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 5:05 am
    DORE`S ARGUMENT
    (1) I forgot to take my meds.
    (2) Therefore, I AM CHRIST!!
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    this one is my favorite

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    JustMarc Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 5:18 am
    I liked this one.
    11# ARGUMENT FROM CREATION
    (1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
    (2) Evolution can`t be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable
    (3) Therefore, God exists.
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    MelG Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 5:28 am
    I believe god.
    But I don`t think people should make stupid arguments about if he exist or not.
    So its just a joke. I don`t think anyone serious will write something like that.
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    FRANCESUX Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 5:57 am
    yea hugs not drugs.. peace man.. can`t we all just get along.. arguing never solves anything.. STFU hippies! arguing is fun, and there is no god. accept it.
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    MagicPaul Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 6:07 am
    ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
    (1) Eric Clapton is God.
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

    I liked that one!

    But yeah cue another IAB argument over something neither side can prove... party on.

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    Mafiaborn Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 7:54 am
    France, shut the f*ck up, we can think what we want. I hope you burn in hell. think of this: we know that the universe was created by the big bang, but who created the first molecule?
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    pats_gurl12 Female 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 8:24 am
    omg ppl there is no god! there never was a god! and there will never be a god!! like honestly pl get over it,its like saying u still belive in the boogey man,stop beliving in stuff thats not real n mafiaborn the first molecule appeared over time no one created it

    (sry if i offended anyone i tend to do that alot with almost everything i say but ya if i offended you im really sorry)

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    Osprey39 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 8:25 am
    I did. Now can you all please shut up about whether or not God exists? I`m tired of everyone trying to wax philosophical on here. You`re not going to convince anyone on this message board to change their mind with your oh-so eloquent arguments. Take the post for what it is: a joke.
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    renegadefae Female 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 8:39 am
    No one really cares, ibigfire. Atheists are atheists and Christians are stupid.
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    CBFLATLINE Male 40-49
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    November 21, 2005 at 8:53 am
    Why is it renegadefae that and to most of you others is that I am stupid for believing in God?

    Yes I believe in God.

    I cannot believe otherwise and I do not wish to believe otherwise.

    Many of you sound bitter, angry and sad. I feel sorry for you.

    At least I am happy in my life.

  30. Profile photo of streb
    streb Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:11 am
    You assume that Atheists are not happy? Why?

    I used to believe in God but came to my own conclusion that he just doesn`t exist and have been a lot happier ever since. The way I see it our existence is a complete scientific fluke and we should feel lucky becaues of that.

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    Pielle Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:27 am
    Ok we need God to create the first molecule, creation imlies a creator, but please tell me who created God? And why does God, but not the first molecule, can come out of the void?
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    krus99 Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:33 am
    word-play does not prove that God exists.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:33 am
    I`ll ask since no one`s asked yet. And I`ll answer my own questiom :-D

    But how can God have been here forever? Isn`t forever impossible?

    The human mind is incapable of visualizing forever, and infinity.

    And I have an actual question of my own, for anybody out there willingly to answer:
    I know people say you can`t prove there`s a God, but in the spectrum of electronic waves (or something, I have no idea o_O) isn`t there a side of this spectrum where wavelengths exist but we can`t see them? I don`t really know what I`m talking about.... somebody help me. @_@ lol

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    thomaschina Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:35 am
    Most Christians believe that God is eternal, that means, he has never been created, so there is no moment when one minute there was nothing and the next there was a god. Depending on how you look at this, it is either a neat way out of the question Who created God, or a bad argument. After all you can rephrase the question: if god exists and it is possible that he could not exist, why does he exist, when he could quite easily not exist.
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    Ya_Mum Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:41 am
    um..u guys who diss christians should go screw urself. I mean trying to prove the existence and trying to link god with reason is not possible. its like an ant trying to understand how it is like an ant trying to understand the concept of the universe
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    Rammstein221 Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:45 am
    You assume ants cannot comprehend the universe
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    Rammstein221 Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 9:50 am
    Religion is an antiquated attempt to explain the world around us and instill moral values into youth. For the latter reason, it`s still works, but for the former, anyone who actually believes it is ignorant and in need of education. There`s nothing wrong with believing in Santa Clause, if you`re a child. Humanity has progressed past childhood and is at the point where many things are understood. God`s were ancient man`s answer to questions like "What the hell is the lightning?" and "Why do my crops die?". Religion`s alright because for some, it keeps them out of trouble, but you shouldn`t take the words written in the Bible or other book as true Science.
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    bigoldjeffry Male 70 & Over
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    November 21, 2005 at 10:14 am
    Hmmm... Christians are stupid?

    I wonder what these folks would think of that:

    Thomas Aquinas
    St. Augustine
    C.S. Lewis
    Michael Faraday
    Cardinal Henry Newman
    Galileo
    JRR Tolkien
    Greg Wolfe
    Brett Lott
    Leo Tolstoy
    Soren Kierkegaard
    John Donne
    John Milton

    Read *all* of these people and then attempt to call Christians stupid.

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    bigoldjeffry Male 70 & Over
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    November 21, 2005 at 10:15 am
    Oh, and Rammstein, you`re a great ambassador for "scientism." Believe away, my son--just know that you`re believing, just as all do.
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    FRANCESUX Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 10:21 am
    as we speak christian teachers worldwide are telling their students that gravity is actually GOD PUSHING US DOWN (no joke), since gravity is difficult to explain scientifically. do u really want your kids learning this crap?
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    2an2makes5 Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 10:52 am
    when god made me... he was just showing off lol, anyway i had to learn some of these arguements (like the 1st 5) for my RE exam. this website makes it harder to understand...
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    EisforPANTS Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:06 am
    Erm...FRANCESUX? I`ve been in Christian schools all my life and not once have they said "gravity is God pushing us down"

    Also I am offended that you all choose to make fun of someone`s religion, Christianity or otherwise. But if you choose to be an athiest, then fine. Be an athiest. We were all CREATED (yes, I said created) with the ability to make descisions, and you have made yours. I personally chose Christianity. Now of course I`ll admit I`m not one of those Bible-totin` holier-than-thou Christians (frankly, they get on my nerves) and I`m not some religious fanatic. It`s my belief and I`m stickin` to it.

    Also, a note to all you Christians telling the non-believers to "screw themselves" and stuff like that, you aren`t representing our faith very well.

    I`ll pray for you all.

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    bobbyo Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:10 am
    if there is a God who create dall things then...
    God created reason therefore
    God exists outside of reason therefore
    God cannot be proved through reason
    and belief in God is irrational

    also God is a metaphor for things not yet understood. Tesla and Einstein have come close.

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    EisforPANTS Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:10 am
    Also, I-Am-Bored.com wasn`t made for religious debates, it was made for entertainment, so let`s all just say "Haha funny" or "Meh" and be done with it, hmm?
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:18 am
    There were a couple of semi-amusing listings. The rest were just crap.
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    EisforPANTS Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:27 am
    Anyone noticed this thing ended with #666? strange...
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    parmonie Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:47 am
    12. ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
    (1) If there is no God then we`re all going to die.
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

    I understand this is a joke...it is only THAT obvious...we`re all going to die eventually...so that does not prove God exisits...he doesn`t anyway...WHAHAHAHAHAHA...

    Yeah.

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    Broken-Wings Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:53 am
    Hey, bigoldjeffry, Soren Kierkegaard founded existentialism, an athiestic philosophy.
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    parmonie Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:58 am
    bigoldjeffry:
    "Read *all* of these people and then attempt to call Christians stupid."

    We`re not saying Christians are stupid intelligence-wise...stupid because they believe some bullpoo. I personally believe there is no God. I will respect someone`s beliefs if he or she will respect mine. I would never hate someone for believing in God and I will never treat anyone differently because he/she believes in God. My roommate is a strong believer in God and she is one of my best friends. Just so you know.

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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:00 pm
    Ha ha! No one KNOWS one way or the other, no matter how arrogant you are regarding your point of view.
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    Lorah Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:08 pm
    God created himself, if you read the bible it expalines it all. It would make sence he lives forever coz god is forever. To us it sounds weird coz we dont live forever. But it sounds weird coz were not used too it, like what if were suspoused to be born purple, or with 10 fingers? sounds weird coz its not what were used too
    How else would we have gotten hear without a god? Man makes a house, a house doesnt just pop outta noweres. God creats us, we didnt pop outta no weres.
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    petitecitron Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:15 pm
    Huh. A 13-year old girl said that God doesn`t exist? IT MUST BE TRUE! OMGOMGOMG!!!1!1!!!1!! I love how authoratitive some of us have decided to become.

    But whatever. Believe, don`t believe. Go ahead, just don`t go around saying that you have some special fantastic knowledge that no one else possesses that ultimatley prooves God does not or does exist, becuase it`s not anything that anyone can really know except through faith -- which more or less tends to defy science and empericisim . . .

    Unless you`re St. Augustine or something. But last time I checked, he was dead and so were all the other Scholastics. So, unless you`ve trained in theology and philosophy for years upon years, chances are you`re claiming that you "know" is incredibly, extremely, arrogant and making a lot of people very angy for no really good reason. Yay for that.

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    Lorah Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:18 pm
    besides ppl blame god for this messed up world.
    Did got give ppl aids? nope, ppl did that to themselfs for example. Did God create guns? nope, again humans, so whoes to blame for this suffering in this world? Humans not God
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    mintyboy3000 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:19 pm
    haha pretty awesome. Why the religious argument? Isn`t that sort of racism?
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    Enohead Male 40-49
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:22 pm
    Saying "God exists because it says so in the Bible," is like saying "Batman exists because it says so in the comic books."
  56. Profile photo of FRANCESUX
    FRANCESUX Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:24 pm
    ok no one "knows" if there`s exists a god of some sort, but anyone with half a mind should "know" that the christian bible has been exponentially contradicted over the past century. but then doesn`t that fact kind of disprove the existence of the christian "god?"
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    squee13 Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:25 pm
    still not convinced...
  58. Profile photo of squee13
    squee13 Female 18-29
    406 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 12:27 pm
    but Enohead seems to be making more sense than most...
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    NoSoup4u Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 12:44 pm
    A friend i lived with once told me i didn`t believe in the bible because i didn`t read it with my eyes open..

    I`m still scratching my head over that one.

    But yeah.. religion is best kept to oneself. Trying to push your religion(or lack thereof) off on others is rude. And i don`t care if you are just following gods rules by spreading the faith and saving souls. Keep it to yourself. That goes for athiests as well.

    Scientologists can try all they want to though.. Everyone laughs at you guys :D

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    moogle_bob Female 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 1:08 pm
    I like Enohead`s argument :) another point would be that the people who founded Christianity etc also believed the world was flat. And I`m assuming no one here believes the Earth is flat. Don`t get me wrong, I`m not slagging off Christians. One of my friends is a Christian. Having different beliefs makes life more interesting. Afterall, how boring would it be if everyone just believed the same thing?
    And by the way NoSoup4u, what do you mean by Scientologist? Is it a person who tries to prove that their belief is right through science, yeah? Just wondering.
  61. Profile photo of EisforPANTS
    EisforPANTS Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 1:15 pm
    Scientologists believe in some evil alien killing all the other ones and dropping their bodies in a volcano or something and the dead aliens` souls are what make us up today...or something like that...

    Just watch last weeks episode of South Park...it explains it better than I can!!!

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    TexGal24 Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 1:25 pm
    I`m a Christian and if I`m completely lost and wrong, then what do I lose...nothing. But, if there is a God, then you lose everything. Seems like a no brainier to me.
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    cheescow Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 1:31 pm
    i remember when doing courseowkr on miracles,we had to use those ot prove god exists, well theres a larger amount of people who ha e prayed ot god aksing for miracles and not had one, than those who have had one. And those people believe in god, and i remeber in my ocursework we were suppsed to sya that god will answer if you believe in him, hell they wernt answerd. Franklym rewligion can be good or bad, in can be good in sense it calms some people down, and other bad cos it makes them violent. Religion really depends on how you react to it. God exists? Not for me
  64. Profile photo of Enohead
    Enohead Male 40-49
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:09 pm
    TexGal -
    You said it seems like a no brainer. That`s the problem. What you are losing is critical thinking. What you gain is the ability to just put everything off on an unseen power.
    Don`t like something? God doesn`t either (i.e. homosexuality). Something good happen? You`re blessed by God. Something bad happen? It`s God`s will.
    It`s just too easy. I prefer to look a little deeper for explanations about life.
    That being said, I`m not anti-God. I believe that faith can give people`s lives meaning, if they need it. But when it also gives people the justification for doing f*cked-up things to each other, and treating other people like dirt, that`s where I draw the line.
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    M3NACE Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:22 pm
    "In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard."

    lol! he wet the bed!!

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    guapodude Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:40 pm
    ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION
    (1) See this bonfire?
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

    Ha!!

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    realblender Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:42 pm
    does anyone think God goes on i-am-bored and gets upset when people argue if he exists? if he does, I`m on his side :)
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    guapodude Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:42 pm
    On 11/21/2005 12:22:39 PM Enohead wrote: Saying "God exists because it says so in the Bible," is like saying "Batman exists because it says so in the comic books."
    no its not because (if you beleive it) the bible isnt a fiction, its a historical nonfiction, so you are wrong.
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    VONLINE Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:42 pm
    This post is just by a Christian with a sense of humor. I`m suprised by the reaction from reading some of the comments. Personally, I`m a Christian. Am I offended when some non-christian calls me an idiot for believing in God? Hell no, I don`t have time for that. That is what`s wrong with this PC world. Everybody`s offended by everything. Boo hoo. Life is too short to be bickering over who believes in what. I don`t care if you`re a Christian, an Athiest, a Buddist, a Muslim (as long as you`re not blowing up people), or anything else. Who and what you believe is your business. You and I will be gone from this life before you know it and it won`t matter what we were offended by or what we said about anyone else`s religion. The truth is that nobody on this planet knows how the universe and life began. Religion is based on faith, and I have faith in God. Some people don`t and that`s okay with me. I`m not going to waste my time calling Athiests and the like idiots.Anyway, that`s my 2 cents.
  70. Profile photo of realblender
    realblender Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:42 pm
    altho if He doesn`t I`m on His side too
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    NoSoup4u Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:44 pm
    @Moogle- It`s been a while since i read up on the specifics, but Scientology is a religion created by Sci Fi author L. Ron Hubbard. It`s based on the belief that an ebil alien warlord crashed a bunch of refugees on earth, into a volcano. Somehow the souls of the refugees survived and infested humans, so each of us has an alien soul inside. Unfortunately they aren`t nice alien souls(they never are) and they are responsible for all the jealosy, greed, violence, and any other undesirable trait humans possess. So this religion says it can free you from this possession and make you a normal human, in complete control of yourself.

    Apparently its quite a racket, as the "treatments" are very pricey. Very trendy religion among the hollywood peeps. And another indication that they make entirely too much money for their own good. :D

    Look it up on google.. It boggles the mind what some people believe.

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    VONLINE Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 2:44 pm
    Peace niggaz.
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    Alpha_Omega Male 13-17
    578 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:11 pm
    ARGUMENT FROM EXCESSIVE STUPIDITY
    (1) Some people are smart enough to be able to live without belief in God.
    (2) I am not intelligent enough to live without belief in God.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    Come on people that`s just dumb.
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    Papapimpin Male 18-29
    528 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:26 pm
    i read about the first five, and then i couldnt take the bullsh*t anymore.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:30 pm
    One thing I DO know for sure is that religious/spiritual matters and scientific matters are 2 distinct and separate issues.

    Therefore, I do not believe that religious/spiritual leaders have the right to speak out definitively on scientific matters any more than scientific leaders have a right to definitively speak out on religious/spiritual matters.

  76. Profile photo of upendy
    upendy Female 13-17
    1211 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:31 pm
    The probablility of a protein forming by chance would be 10 ^64 (10 with 64 zeros) to 1.

    That is: 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 to one.

    That means its very unlikely that we just popped out of nowhere.

    God Bless Y`all

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    smcnic10 Female 18-29
    46 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:37 pm
    TexGal24...just curious, if there happened to be some benefit to atheism, would you jump ship?

    Best case scenario believers make me cringe. :(

  78. Profile photo of streb
    streb Male 18-29
    142 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:40 pm
    "God created himself, if you read the bible it expalines it all."

    "no its not because (if you beleive it) the bible isnt a fiction, its a historical nonfiction, so you are wrong."

    Prove to me that the Bible isn`t fiction and I`ll change my beliefs, but so far I haven`t seen anything to convince me that the people who wrote the Bible based it on a true story. Especially since it was written over a long period of time by dozens of different people, many of whom probably never met eachother. And what about those people who lived to be like 900 years old - explain that and stay credible.

    And upendy, if that`s the probability of a protein forming by itself what are the odds of a God spontaneously creating itself?

    Oh how I love to argue the toss about stuff that doesn`t really matter...

  79. Profile photo of bobbyo
    bobbyo Male 18-29
    318 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:46 pm
    believe in Dracula! Dracula rose form the dead so that you can live forever! Through his blood and you too will live for ever!
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    moogle_bob Female 13-17
    5 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:47 pm
    cheers nosoup. u explained that better than Eisforpants :p considering i dnt watch south park usually. though i do agree wi u, it is quite silly. i dnt mean that in a nasty way to anyone who does happen to believe that. i jsut think its silly :p
    something people must look up is `flying spaghetti monster` on goggle. its class. my pyhsics teacher showed me it (we really dnt learn anything in her class). and im pretty sure thats its actually really. jsut another example of how strange modern life is. :p
    and i agree with manorrd.
  81. Profile photo of lexmex
    lexmex Female 18-29
    458 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:47 pm
    yea i believe in god but not w/ this...this is dumb u believe in god b/c u believe u shouldnt have 2 have a reason
  82. Profile photo of free_bird122
    free_bird122 Female 13-17
    47 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:48 pm
    Haha! Thomas Aquinas is rolling in his grave. I should show these to my church history teacher. But she didn`t even find the Flying Spaghetti Monster funny. What is up with that?!
  83. Profile photo of bobbyo
    bobbyo Male 18-29
    318 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:49 pm
    Before Christ: gee I`m such a bad person God must be mad at me. So if I sacrifice this animal and pour his blood on a rock I will please God.
    After Christ: Gee we are all such nasty people and God is angry with us. So if we kill God`s son and pour out his blood then God will be pleased and not smite us.
    SO God likes blood ergo God is dracula.
  84. Profile photo of moogle_bob
    moogle_bob Female 13-17
    5 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 3:55 pm
    intersting philosophy there bobbyo. if u have to do any talks or anything bout god, u should definately say that. love to see how people take it.
    wow, i didnt even know there wer such things as church history teachers. show it to some science teachers,or even maths ones. they should like it :p mine did at least. and its a great time waster in class. im goign to try and get my RE teacher to read it, see wot he says. adn my philosphy teacher, he;s like it. he;s an aetheist (dnt know how to spell it, its one of those words)
  85. Profile photo of TexGal24
    TexGal24 Female 18-29
    252 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:03 pm
    Enohead, thanks for the reply. What I meant by no brainier is my decision to believe in a higher power and that He sent His son, Jesus Christ. By doing that, I am forgiven and will spend eternity in Heaven. Also, just want to mention that these are my beliefs, don`t want to offend anyone. You said something about critical thinking. In reply, I`m looking at the BIG picture beyond this life. I have questioned my faith a million times but, nothing else makes sense to me. For example, I don`t think it makes sense to look at a building and go, you know, I never met the builder so I don`t think the builder exists. Also, the part you said about using God as justification. I agree, that isn`t right. I don`t think anyone has the right to judge anyone else or think they can do whatever they want. What I have learned from reading the Bible is that we are supposed to love. So, what you said about judging others and treating others like dirt well, that isn`t a Christian trait.
  86. Profile photo of upendy
    upendy Female 13-17
    1211 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:07 pm
    ""yea i believe in god but not w/ this...this is dumb u believe in god b/c u believe u shouldnt have 2 have a reason""

    yeah i totally agree. we dont need to have a reason to believe, we just DO.

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    upendy Female 13-17
    1211 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:09 pm
    is this even about the post anymore?!?!?!?
  88. Profile photo of Mafiaborn
    Mafiaborn Male 13-17
    91 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:13 pm
    Maybe... just maybe... the universe is in a infinitely uncomprehendable loop that never started, and never will end, that has god as a groundfs keeper, watching over us. I don`t really care if you don`t beleave in christ, just dont insult me, or my religion.
  89. Profile photo of moogle_bob
    moogle_bob Female 13-17
    5 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:15 pm
    that wot faith is. not needing reason to believe sumthing. u jsut have to be careful bout wot u base on faith, and make sure u dnt go to far.
  90. Profile photo of upendy
    upendy Female 13-17
    1211 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:16 pm
    ""I don`t really care if you don`t beleave in christ, just dont insult me, or my religion. ""

    yeah, thats right.

  91. Profile photo of Enohead
    Enohead Male 40-49
    1587 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:17 pm
    Personally, I try to be a decent human being without being motivated by the promise of reward, or the threat of punishment after I die.
  92. Profile photo of tedweird
    tedweird Male 18-29
    298 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:20 pm
    as an agnostistic Jew, I can comfortably say: I don`t think I`ve ever seen so much unintelligent crap in one place before.
  93. Profile photo of MandyBee
    MandyBee Female 18-29
    78 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:23 pm
    Why is it that it is okay to bash Christianity but if we bash any other religion we are considered bad people? I believe in Christ as my saviour. If you don`t I don`t feel differently about you so don`t feel differently about me.
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    ProzakJunkie Male 18-29
    163 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:38 pm
    ARGUMENT FROM GUNS (II)
    (1) We have a gun.
    (2) In fact, we have a lot more guns than you do.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    Ha, America....

  95. Profile photo of six13
    six13 Female 18-29
    107 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:48 pm
    I don`t believe in god or Jesus (though I`ve been raised christian) but I`m not an atheist either. I am, however, offended by how so many people can be so dismissive of other people`s beleifs. If you are to post something supporting what you think, try to make it reasonable at least (yes, I know not everyone was unreasonable).

    Anyways...I found the `proofs` on the link funny before I lost my patience. If some people are insulted by them, lighten up, I don`t think they were ment to be serious in any way.

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    atownorg Male 13-17
    305 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:52 pm
    that was pretty stupid
  97. Profile photo of subaduba
    subaduba Male 18-29
    48 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 4:57 pm
    My favorite:
    ARGUMENT FROM NONBELIEF
    (1) The majority of the world`s population are nonbelievers in Christianity.
    (2) This is just what Satan intended.
    (3) Therefore, God exists.

    Also, if you`re still trying to prove the other side wrong on the comment board, you`re just as ignorant as the one you are calling dumb. Athiests, Christians, and anyone else alike.

  98. Profile photo of neeley2009
    neeley2009 Male 18-29
    142 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:01 pm
    Eh, I`ll believe that a god exists when I have proof.

    Until then, I don`t know.

  99. Profile photo of Ari-X-Suzuki
    Ari-X-Suzuki Female 13-17
    35 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:09 pm
    eh hogwash. beilve what ya want. me no care
    -Ari
  100. Profile photo of FRANCESUX
    FRANCESUX Male 18-29
    396 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:20 pm
    well im passing out. the atheists are clearly ahead. so far the most popular christian argument has been "shut the f..k up," and (my personal favorite) "god creats us, we didnt just pop outa no weres."
  101. Profile photo of FRANCESUX
    FRANCESUX Male 18-29
    396 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:23 pm
    if anyone can pose a logical theory for the existence of a god based on something other than faith i`d love to read it.
  102. Profile photo of selfir
    selfir Male 18-29
    119 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:43 pm
    this reminds me off this completly gawd (spelling intentional) awful intro to philosophy class I took ... I sat there and glared at the people who would argue a point WAAAYYY too much - you know the type
  103. Profile photo of TexGal24
    TexGal24 Female 18-29
    252 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:45 pm
    Well, I`m done debating for the day (actually I`m at work and I`m going home, haha) but, just wanted to say God Bless! :-)
  104. Profile photo of MandyBee
    MandyBee Female 18-29
    78 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:45 pm
    I`m a Christian, and I would have to agree that a lot of Christians are mean, but on this board I would have to say it is the opposite. I can`t believe how insulting people are toward others who are just stating how they believe. There is no need for name calling or making fun.
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    AVDPhoenix Male 30-39
    1522 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:50 pm
    Absolutly Stupid!
  106. Profile photo of hazy_clear
    hazy_clear Female 18-29
    92 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:57 pm
    Never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions you have no respect.

    This entire forum is a joke. People will not believe in God until there is proof he exists. Others will believe in God until there is proof that he does not exist. And you know what? Neither will believe any proof but the proof they wish to believe.

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    mayiaskwho Female 18-29
    55 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:57 pm
    I HATE this. Is I-am-bored really a place to make fun of someones religious beliefs?! I think NOT.
  108. Profile photo of MandyBee
    MandyBee Female 18-29
    78 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 5:58 pm
    Anyhow I`m about to sign off, too. It was good chatting...I think. HA HA!
  109. Profile photo of mooseyfate
    mooseyfate Male 13-17
    851 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:00 pm
    this was funny
    pretty much no one got the joke though...
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    hazy_clear Female 18-29
    92 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:07 pm
    FRANCESUX- There is nothing anyone can show you that you would accept. You have already made up your mind.

    jimbodahobo- Do not make the mistake of calling christians "close-minded". That is a flaw that anyone can possess, not just people of faith.

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    jimbodahobo Male 13-17
    371 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:16 pm
    im just gonna delete that because i wrote my last post in anger but most religions say that if you dont believe us youre wrong
    ill just leave it at:
    i beleive in a god(not any particular religion) and it may suprise you aethiests to know that most of the most brilliant men ever believed in god regardless of religion and sheer probability says that creation couldnt happen with outside force aka a creator which basically would be our god

    no ones gonna listen to my reasoning and chances are just like everyone else im spouting biased crap BUT AT LEAST I ADMIT I DONT KNOW!

  112. Profile photo of hovalady411
    hovalady411 Female 18-29
    1262 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:31 pm
    I call bullsh-t
  113. Profile photo of Oreoman
    Oreoman Male 13-17
    135 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:39 pm
    Did anyone else notice that at the end the number is 666 but the one before it was 352?
  114. Profile photo of snake712
    snake712 Male 13-17
    48 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:42 pm
    Yes, that was obviously intentional. And by the way, I only have a problem with the pascal`s wager one, because it`s a very big misrepresentation of pascal`s wager. Based on that though, I figure a lot of them are biased by an atheist, so I`ll ignore it completly. And it was funny, even though I`m a theist, specifically jewish.
  115. Profile photo of duffbeer4moe
    duffbeer4moe Female 13-17
    677 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:46 pm
    all these comments are confusing me even more...
  116. Profile photo of Rammstein221
    Rammstein221 Male 13-17
    407 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:48 pm
    There have been experiments that have recreated the formation of the first cells. Urey and Miller (if I`m not mistaken on the names) in the 1950`s took water vapor, nitrogen, sulfur, ammonia, and methane gasses, which were all presence in abundance on primitive earth, applied electricity which represents lightning strikes and condensed the solution. The following concoction produces strains of ammino acids and carbohydrates. Then in the 1980`s or 1990`s, I don`t really remember, a guy named Rodney Fox (again not 100% sure of the name) recreated this experiment then heated the result and what was created was simple proto cells. Thus, he created live, thus, he is god. And dracula.
  117. Profile photo of EisforPANTS
    EisforPANTS Male 13-17
    615 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 6:58 pm
    Let me be the one to close this...
    People are going to believe what they want. Some believe in God, some don`t believe anything, and some believe evil aliens possess us all (heh Scintologists are so silly). There is nothing anyone can do to change this, and we all just have to accept it. Quit cramming your beliefs down everyone else`s throats. If someone isn`t interested, move on. Now, again, as I have said earlier, lets just give this a "heh" or a "meh" and be done with it!

    God bless! ^.^

  118. Profile photo of b3nzyme
    b3nzyme Male 18-29
    279 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 7:21 pm
    ha i liked the
    ARGUMENT FROM SEMANTIC UNCERTAINTY
    (1) Atheists can`t quite agree on the exact definition of Atheism.
    (2) Therefore all Atheists are wrong.
    (3) Therefore God exists

    (a+b^n)/n = x? ok?

    my own:
    Argument from DUH!ness:
    (1) god would leave no clear evidence of his existence and let us have intelligence enough to discover them if he were trying to test our faith.
    (2)bible says we are here to test our faith for the reasons of (read the bible da**it!)
    (3) the bible is god`s word
    (4) I have an I.Q. of 186 and I believe.
    (5) therefore God exists.

  119. Profile photo of b3nzyme
    b3nzyme Male 18-29
    279 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 7:32 pm
    (excuse my southern dialect: "intelligence enough" instead of "enough intelligence"). I like dumb. therefore i is dumb. Dumb people are happier than youse smarts people. admit it. this is all an understatement. Therefore god exists. i like to confuse people thats how i get my fun
  120. Profile photo of BlueOrchid
    BlueOrchid Female 18-29
    158 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 7:34 pm
    Oh God.
    (I just realized what I said)
  121. Profile photo of Manicstoive
    Manicstoive Male 18-29
    904 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 7:35 pm
    Now don`t start on me.I am an atheist, I was baptised as a CoE Christian, but have found many reasons to turn my back on god. I`m not gonna slate anyone for their beliefs, and don`t expect anyone to slate me for mine, but answer me this:- If `God` is meant to be loving and compassionate, as we`re led to believe, why is there so much pain and suffering in the world. What God has allowed millions to die in the asian tsunamis, the Indian/Pakistani Earthquakes, through starvation etc. and what God gives man the capability to destroy itself. To become pedophiles, rapists, murderers, terrorists. Y`know, looking at the world today, I`d be more inclined to believe that Satans in power, not the man upstairs.
  122. Profile photo of ace3015
    ace3015 Male 30-39
    914 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 7:46 pm


    ^^^^^You don`t have to have a reason? hmmmm how close minded can christians be, guess I`ll never understand it and Manicstoive you make a good point I was gonna come off with something like that also

  123. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 7:55 pm
    K ppl, I am not fully athiest(pretty much am though)and not fully against religion. But I have enough of each sides in me to show these two ignored
    statements. I`ll start with the athiest 1. look at the enterpritations of molecules, then look at the solar system... see a similarity? they look ALOT the same! this goes to say that the universe could just be molecules on a freakishly large sofa. and the sofa could be on a planet that is part of a solar system that`s a molecule for something else!
    all we know the universe could be an ever growing, ever shrinking rope of different sizes of solar systems, galaxys and universes!

    Now for the religious theory.


    The universe would more likely be like a giant piece of software made and proggrammed by god to be able to work on it`s own without constant supervision. which would explain why some prayers are answered and some arent! If you were god, would you want to sit there and make every plant and animal on every planet that support

  124. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 7:56 pm
    s life, in every solar system, in every galaxy and possibly multiple universes! think about it.

    and that`s my two cents.

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    i_am_24601 Female 13-17
    232 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:00 pm
    wow. retarded, yet slightly amusing in the sense that it was a mockery.
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    IckBee Female 18-29
    116 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:03 pm
    I believe, as human beings, we are not mentally capable to understand God, the meaning of life, or how the earth came to be. I think that if there is one almighty "God", it`s wrong of us to think that we are so great that we can understand God. We are nothing in comparison. It`s like a person who has been blind all of his life knowing about color. We are just humans and we need to get over ourselves.
  127. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:06 pm
    GOD IS SOME SCIENTISTS SLAVING OVER A TESTTUBE WITH A FREAKISHLY STRONG MICROSCOPE! Or not.......
  128. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:07 pm
    We shall never know!
  129. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:07 pm
    we might not even find out when we die!
  130. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:08 pm
    worst case scenario: we die, everything goes permanently black and thoughtless for eternity with no ability to hear, see, think, or feel:( Yay!!! another incomprehensable situation!
  131. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:12 pm
    best case scenario: we die, then go up to a magical place where all our fondest wishes come true....
    THAT WOULD DRIVE ME FOCKIN INSANE!!!!!!!!! LIFE IS HORRIBLE WHEN IT`S PERFECT! THE ONLY REASON WE ENJOY THINGS IS BECUASEDON`T GET TO DO ENJOYABLE THINGS ALOT! WHEN THERE IS NOTHING TO MAKE YOU WANT TO DO SOME YOU GET BORED OF IT! THEN IT DRIVES YOU FOCKIN INSANE! both scenario`s are unhappy ending...
  132. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 8:12 pm
    P.S. sorry for the multiple postings
  133. Profile photo of paradox_1401
    paradox_1401 Male 18-29
    23 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:18 pm
    JustMarc, I would love to hear you explain evolution. Not that I am saying it is wrong, just that most people have no idea what evolution is.
    BTW Thomas Aquinas was smarter than everybody on this page by a long long long long way and he believed and argued for the existence of God, with a causation argument. Doing so doesn`t make you stupid.
  134. Profile photo of paradox_1401
    paradox_1401 Male 18-29
    23 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:28 pm
    The experiments conducted by Urey and Miller presoppose exact materials and also `exact` conditions that are still argued about by geologists. Also, it leaves the problem of evolution from basic life forms, i.e. biochemical evolution problems, or more simply the problems of big leaps such as single circuitary blood system to double (no inbetween steps seem feisable). These problems increas when looking at things such as blood clotting mechanisms, which are very specific and require many seperate enzyms etc. to work that have no other use, so they would all have to `mutate` at the same time, probability like a needle in the universe etc.
    Not saying they are wrong, just skeptical of the current arguments for evolution.
  135. Profile photo of paradox_1401
    paradox_1401 Male 18-29
    23 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:30 pm
    BTW i don`t expect this to convince anyone, you probably think you understand evolution perfectly, that it is all about butterflys changing colour. Ignorance can be bliss, just accept thecurrent scientific paradigm, it`ll be fine......
  136. Profile photo of dremassa66
    dremassa66 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2005 at 8:34 pm
    This is just sad.
  137. Profile photo of joseffstalin
    joseffstalin Male 18-29
    63 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 8:36 pm
    Its people like upendy that truely scare me to be in this universe. The blatantly ignorant, irrational, and stupid.
  138. Profile photo of NoSoup4u
    NoSoup4u Male 18-29
    85 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 9:01 pm
    The funny thing about the evolution arguement is that the theory of Evolution does not rule out a creator. It just rules out the bible(well, literal interpretation of it anyway).

    Any god can just snap his fingers and make what he wants.. a real artist makes his creations slowly, over time, with gentle trimmings here, slight nudgings there, keeping off the canvas as much as possible.

    An ice age here.. a plague there... a comet... a new mutation occasionally..

    It`s like raising a Bansai tree. You don`t grow it all at once.. It`s a labor of a lifetime.

  139. Profile photo of Venis
    Venis Female 18-29
    53 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 9:02 pm
    Some people need to relax, if you don`t like it don`t look at it and move on.

    No use arguing about things that will never change, but then again maybe you all love to argue. Either way this whole post was funny. :)

  140. Profile photo of pinkconverse
    pinkconverse Female 13-17
    61 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 9:07 pm
    "Not saying there isn`t a God, or that the Bible, even though it is mostly false, is wrong, but things only go wrong when people start taking things literally. Jesus was a saint, not a magical spirit who healed people from sickness and came back from the dead. He was a great man, a saviour for many, but in the sense that he "saved" them by showing them the light, and he was just a mortal man."

    That`s a good quote for this argument.

  141. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
    285 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 9:14 pm
    ha ha, this has made my day.
  142. Profile photo of cannibal151
    cannibal151 Male 18-29
    1550 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 9:44 pm
    wtf i didnt understand any of it but im sure its bs, f*ck that god foo!
  143. Profile photo of Mafiaborn
    Mafiaborn Male 13-17
    91 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 9:44 pm
    NoSoup, then why aren`t we created at the biggining of time? We are created over time, with eveolution, a god looking over us so we dont drat up. It may just be me, but it`s not how it goes.
  144. Profile photo of ace3015
    ace3015 Male 30-39
    914 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 9:50 pm
    geez religion is so weird, but people will believe what they believe I will respect that I just find it hard to believe something that isn`t based on real facts. The fact is science is the closest we come to real facts not some "bible" that was written hundreds of years ago and people actually live by it! come on people the year is 2005 not 200 AD. I understand the people who believe they were raised with it (I was too) in most cases but unless a bolt of lightning comes down right now to strike me telling me to believe in some god maybe I will but until then no
  145. Profile photo of MagicMoose
    MagicMoose Male 13-17
    623 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 10:30 pm
    fine u ass Francesux, then answer these questions, who created the universe? who created life? who created the first pie? no seriously who created the first pie i wanna no
  146. Profile photo of ace3015
    ace3015 Male 30-39
    914 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 10:34 pm
    ^^^go to bed after 10 here
  147. Profile photo of pamplemousse
    pamplemousse Female 18-29
    299 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 10:34 pm
    None of those had ANYTHING to do with geometry.
  148. Profile photo of ace3015
    ace3015 Male 30-39
    914 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 10:36 pm
    geometry? explain lol
  149. Profile photo of ace3015
    ace3015 Male 30-39
    914 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 10:43 pm
    ok just another 13-17 female who knows it all not to mention a bi how nice that adds to your credibilty
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    ace3015 Male 30-39
    914 posts
    November 21, 2005 at 11:00 pm
    ok just another 13-17 female who knows it all not to mention a bi how nice that adds to your credibilty
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    ace3015 Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:02 pm
    ok I just supported this site at YOUTHINK people are dissing it there

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    ace3015 Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:10 pm
    geometry? explain lol
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    ace3015 Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:11 pm
    ^^^go to bed after 10 here
  154. Profile photo of handle_taken
    handle_taken Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2005 at 11:53 pm
    I don`t come with any delusions that I will change anybody`s mind here. But it would be wise to notice that very few people here have a very good grasp on real Christianity. While I`ve heard some intelligent responses from both sides, I`ve heard some really embarassingly stupid ones as well.

    Don`t think I didn`t see the humour in this. I chuckled quite a bit, especially on the Stevie Wonder one. But I see this sort of thing all the time. I`m told that atheists love a good debate, but most of what I see is a dumbing-down of Christianity and then mockery. That doesn`t sound like true argument to me.

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    punkitonic Female 18-29
    124 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 12:20 am
    It`s not my place to judge people whether they think god exists or not, its entirely up to you what you believe and i shall leave it at that!
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    lakerzz8 Male 18-29
    366 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 12:27 am
    HOBYandy, Mr.2212 posts get a life before calling me an idiot.
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    kmartkid Female 18-29
    45 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 1:51 am
    This discussion simply reminds me of one basic truth that has always bothered me... so many people claim to be tolerant of other peoples religions and till the other person says they are a Christian. Why such a double standard? Why can`t you all be open minded enough to let me believe what i do.
  158. Profile photo of cnlbell
    cnlbell Female 18-29
    420 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 2:29 am
    I believe in God, and I think he has a great sense of humor. I see it in my kids everyday.

    Also, I don`t think people are afraid of the theory of evolution, I think its more plausible that people are afraid of God. Because if they allowed themselves to believe there is a higher power that will hold them responsible for their actions, they would HAVE to do the right thing. Beilieving in nothing allows for no reason for personal restraint, morals or respect for others. Take what you will, use and abuse because there are no consequences.

    Personally, I feel more at peace knowing I am held to a higher standard. I am not perfect, but strive to be the best I can be.

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    cnlbell Female 18-29
    420 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 2:35 am
    the*o*ry --
    1. Abstract reasoning; speculation: a decision based on experience rather than theory.
    2. A belief or principle that guides action or assists comprehension or judgment: staked out the house on the theory that criminals usually return to the scene of the crime.
    3. An assumption based on limited information or knowledge; a conjecture.
  160. Profile photo of Homer Jay
    Homer Jay Male 18-29
    1135 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 6:36 am
    ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY
    (1) How could God NOT exist, you bozo?
    (2) Therefore, God exists.

    nice one

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    acdc_rocks91 Male 13-17
    318 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 9:00 am
    bullpoo, all of it, funny though, but i wont read it all
  162. Profile photo of Enohead
    Enohead Male 40-49
    1587 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 9:20 am
    cnlbell - regarding your statement:
    "Because if they allowed themselves to believe there is a higher power that will hold them responsible for their actions, they would HAVE to do the right thing. Beilieving in nothing allows for no reason for personal restraint, morals or respect for others. Take what you will, use and abuse because there are no consequences."

    I have to say - I don`t need God to have morals. Like I said in my post above, I strive to be a decent person without the threat of punishment in the afterlife.
    Now, maybe most people need the idea of God getting mad at them to make them "behave," but I don`t.

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    Enohead Male 40-49
    1587 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 9:34 am
    And this whole argument that God exists because evolution is only a theory is ridiculous. Yes, it`s a theory - meaning that it changes and is updated when new evidence is discovered. And there is far more evidence to support the theory of evolution than there is to support creationism (or Intelligent Design if you want your religion to sound psuedo-scientific.)

    An analogy -
    Two people at a magic show:
    "Wow! That magician just sawed that lady in half!"
    "Yeah. There must be a good explanation. There`s probably a second lady`s legs in one half of the box, and the original lady`s head in the other half of the box. They`re probably both curled up in order to fit in each half of the box."
    "Well, you can`t prove that - it`s just a theory."
    "Okay, well how do YOU think he did it?"
    "MAGIC!"
    "Oh, that`s MUCH more plausible."

    I think it`s pretty silly to poo-poo one thing as being disprovable, while believing in

  164. Profile photo of Enohead
    Enohead Male 40-49
    1587 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 9:35 am
    something that is even more disprovable.
  165. Profile photo of nickbrick
    nickbrick Male 13-17
    797 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 2:09 pm
    TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT
    (1) If reason exists then God exists.


    yes... and if my grandmother had testicles she would be my grandfather. no point in this article.

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    gregor_samsa Male 18-29
    462 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 4:03 pm
    Like, NOT?
  167. Profile photo of upendy
    upendy Female 13-17
    1211 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 4:31 pm
    Old dude: All I want to know is was the apple i just ate bitter or sweet?

    scientist: i dont know, I havent tasted your apple.

    old dude: and neither have you tasted my Jesus.

  168. Profile photo of Hansbo
    Hansbo Male 18-29
    901 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 4:37 pm
    God is photoshopped!!!!
  169. Profile photo of Enohead
    Enohead Male 40-49
    1587 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 6:26 pm
    EEew, upendy - that old dude is a cannibal??
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    missknox Female 18-29
    105 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 7:23 pm
    I`m a Christian and I didn`t think it was funny or offensive. It was creative though. Very creative.
  171. Profile photo of Mafiaborn
    Mafiaborn Male 13-17
    91 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 7:59 pm
    Even though I dont beleave in creationism, I have my own little queer religion. I beleave he guides us, though not actually creating the universe. But, the chance of a single protein coming into form without any aid is 10 ^64 which is 10 with 64 0`s.


    Ie:100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 to one.

    Now, without god to aid the first protein to start the big bang, nothing would exist.

  172. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 8:38 pm
    Mafiaborn, that may be a long time, but the universe is REALLY old and with something that is older than can be imagined that could of happened thousands of times

  173. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 8:39 pm
    and it`s an estimate of when it could happen. that don`t stop it from happening! it`s possible it could happen twice in a row
  174. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 8:40 pm
    I not against wat u believe though. that just what I think.
  175. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 8:44 pm
    I like argueing over piontless stuff like religion! it`s fun!:-) we all know the flying sphagetti monster is are lord!
  176. Profile photo of cheesysong23
    cheesysong23 Female 13-17
    169 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 8:57 pm
    Alright, I`m one of those people who thinks people are entitled to practice whatever religion they wish.

    I have nothing against athiests, in fact I have friends who are athiest and my aunt and cousin are also athiest.

    But I definitly have something against people who lump everyone who beleives in God to be "stupid". To put down anyone for their religion is very wrong. And I`m highly offended. I`d be even if you were putting down Chirsitians and I didn`t believe in God. That`s really ignorant of people to lump all beleivers in one catagory. Also, science is a leap of faith to. Have you seen Jupiter up close? Do you know for SURE that you`re made up of cells? No. Science takes just as much faith to believe in as Christianity. It sickens me that people compare god to the "bogey man". I`m not a mega-christian, and I dislike people who are. In fact I disagree with many points in the bible and I don`t believe in Hell. Come on guys, even my very athiest Aunt thinks it

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    cheesysong23 Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2005 at 8:57 pm
    continued:

    thinks it`s wrong to slander christians, grow up already.

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    cheesysong23 Female 13-17
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    November 22, 2005 at 9:00 pm
    *by the way what I meant by seeing "jupider up close" I meant in person. For all we know all our "scientific discoveries" could all be lies. It takes faith to believe in that too. Or I like how I once read: "It takes more faith to believe there is no God than there is a God." Claiming there is no point to life, that there is no reason we are here, there is no where to go after life, is a much more difficult thing to claim than the opposite.
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    deuterium Female 13-17
    112 posts
    November 22, 2005 at 10:03 pm
    Cheesysong, we know we are made of cells thanks to THE MIRCOSCOPE. We know about Jupiter thanks to THE TELESCOPE. Science is not a leap of faith, it`s based on stuff we can SEE FOR OURSELVES.
    Don`t insult science. >-(
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    upendy Female 13-17
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    November 23, 2005 at 4:41 am
    **shakes fist at science**
  181. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 23, 2005 at 3:23 pm
    Yes cheesysong. I am SURE I am made of cells. thanks for asking. oh ur right about religion bashing. P.S. I don`t compare god to teh boogeyman since when you read what god means it could also be teh UNIVERSE it is talking about becuase we were basically created by the universe GREAT! now I am rambling about pointless stuff again!
  182. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 23, 2005 at 3:25 pm
    oh I have frends that r christion too. just becuz u think a religion is stupid don`t mean u have 2 hate the peple who believe in it. I personally hate most religion becuz they`re all about gays being evil and stuff and it is very crude.
  183. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 23, 2005 at 3:27 pm
    Yes cheesysong. I am SURE I am made of cells. thanks for asking. oh ur right about religion bashing. P.S. I don`t compare god to teh boogeyman since when you read what god means it could also be teh UNIVERSE it is talking about becuase we were basically created by the universe GREAT! now I am rambling about pointless stuff again!
  184. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 23, 2005 at 3:27 pm
    don`t know why it did that
  185. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2005 at 3:27 pm
    WOOT! 60 POSTZ!
  186. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 23, 2005 at 3:32 pm
    don`t know why it did that
  187. Profile photo of cptwhite
    cptwhite Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2005 at 8:12 pm
    this was really f*ucking stupid....

    THE BIBLE: FICTION

  188. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 23, 2005 at 10:26 pm
    I don`t want 2 offend any1 but the religious age is almost over and the scientific age is rising! some day in teh ear future most of the ppl will be science based and not really have very much religion in teh world it will take a while, maybe past my lifetime, but it is almost here. and of course one day another age will come 2 replace science, and we`ll all be as pissed as science taking teh place religion had in the next hundred years or so. sorry if I offended any1 I not entirely comfortable in it meself even though I atheist... couldn`t find good religion 2 believe in, they were all either against women or gays except buddism and stuff, so I not religious at all.
  189. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
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    November 23, 2005 at 10:27 pm
    religion is nothin 2 fite about anyways so may this be teh last entry 2 this post foreva!
  190. Profile photo of lakerzz8
    lakerzz8 Male 18-29
    366 posts
    November 24, 2005 at 12:11 am
    gonadsonfire get a life and stop posting 50 times in a row and god doesnt exsist. period
  191. Profile photo of upendy
    upendy Female 13-17
    1211 posts
    November 24, 2005 at 1:35 am
    i agree^^ get a life
  192. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 24, 2005 at 3:38 pm
    incase u [email protected] havent realized I AM ATHEIST! ge tur fockin story straight I just say that crap so ppl wont say crap like u just did... guess it didnt work
  193. Profile photo of gonadsonfire
    gonadsonfire Male 13-17
    579 posts
    November 24, 2005 at 3:39 pm
    and that a glitch that made me post so much b4
  194. Profile photo of Burnface
    Burnface Male 18-29
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    November 24, 2005 at 4:56 pm
    alot of these arguments are based on the idea of "I think, therefore I am" that Decartes wrote about, which has since been disproven both in terms of psychology and biology
  195. Profile photo of cheescow
    cheescow Female 18-29
    30 posts
    November 25, 2005 at 1:46 pm
    you know what, although I don`t believe in God, I don`t think anyone should shun religion, there are alot of morals within all religions thats should be respected, and should be used even by atheists.
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    Stimpy1993 Male 13-17
    283 posts
    December 28, 2005 at 12:29 pm
    ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)
    (1) God is love.
    (2) Love is blind.
    (3) Stevie Wonder is blind.
    (4) Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
    (5) Therefore, God exists.

    Now I know that this has to be a joke :-D

  197. Profile photo of Jcheats
    Jcheats Male 13-17
    137 posts
    June 1, 2006 at 2:54 am
    Lol here is my argument on how god dosen`t exist.

    This is proof that God exists
    Proof denies faith
    Without faith, there is no god
    There fore, there is no god

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    107249 Male 13-17
    210 posts
    April 26, 2007 at 4:29 pm
    I hate those christians and other religeous people who try to convince you that there is a god.
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    elHadji Male 70 & Over
    1455 posts
    April 27, 2007 at 8:35 am
    Emh those people are totally wrong, they are "prooving" that we who dont believe in god are wrong, and use that as an evidence of his existance....

    if you proove that we (Atheists) are wrong, you cant say "see, he DOES exist" just because were wrong. youre thinking if its not this sollution then its the opposite and thats not a proper scientifical evidence.

    andi totally agree with Jcheats ;-)

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    elHadji Male 70 & Over
    1455 posts
    April 27, 2007 at 8:53 am
    one more thing...

    (1) Ask Atheists what caused the Big Bang.
    (2) Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this.
    (3) Continue process until the Atheist admits he doesn`t know the answer to one of your questions.
    (4) You win!
    (5) Therefore, God exists.

    lets twist that

    1. Ask theists how the universe came to be.
    2. Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this.
    3. Continue process until the theist admits he doesn`t know the answer to one of your questions.
    4. You win!
    5. Therefore, God doesn’t exist.


    pwned biatches

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    mikeyisred Female 13-17
    161 posts
    June 19, 2007 at 6:25 pm
    ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)
    (1) God is love.
    (2) Love is blind.
    (3) Stevie Wonder is blind.
    (4) Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
    (5) Therefore, God exists.

    haham amazing.

    i`m a happier atheist or agnostic than i was wheni was an orthodox jew. read a translated tanach - not a christian bible, it`s botched translation. decide for yourself.

    if god exists, i don`t like the way he functions.

  202. Profile photo of Mansurus
    Mansurus Male 18-29
    25 posts
    June 20, 2007 at 2:14 am
    1. ElHadji can`t comprehend anything he reads.
    2. God can comprehend lots of stuff.
    3. Therefore, God exists.

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