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Date: 10/27/05 02:19 AM

97 Responses to Mobile Laser

  1. Profile photo of loader
    loader Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:18 am
    Link: Mobile Laser - The Mobile Laser Defense System. Shooting Missiles outta the sky since `04
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    MELio74 Female 18-29
    428 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 2:25 am
    Oh..... okay..... Was there something funny at the end or something that I was supposed to see cuz the movie froze with like 15 seconds to go..... Anyway I was bored up until then.....
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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 2:28 am
    Its like a mini-Death Star, really cool war machine
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    Akajune Male 18-29
    149 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 2:35 am
    Super. Now we just need to find Bin Laden and we`re set.
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    atchetarry Male 18-29
    65 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 2:53 am
    That can`t be real, if it was then the Americans wouldn`t need to be spending many billions of dollars trying to build a missile defence system, which looks like it will be damn hard to get working anyway. Or is that the product of their spending and they can put the funds into health or something now?
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    LordJonathan Male 70 & Over
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:03 am

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    flipz4 Male 18-29
    266 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 3:04 am
    It is real, and weare doing it. It does seem quite strange but i have read a lot about this, and it does seem quite practical, especially when the world gets fed up with our poo and takes action.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 3:12 am
    Hey that Missile defence system your knocking put the Soviet Union out of business
  9. Profile photo of atchetarry
    atchetarry Male 18-29
    65 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 3:17 am
    Actually I can see the need for it, apparantly the real threat now is China, they have been increasing their military spending rapidly and are still trying to act like they`re our friends, just the same as what Hitler did before the outbreak of WWII.
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    flipz4 Male 18-29
    266 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 3:19 am
    Oh there is definately going to be the third sometime soon. China is sketchy...Period!
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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 4:37 am
    see..s*hit like this is why the us is on top :)
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    bored-am-I Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 5:21 am
    The american mentality is always fun to read, bescribing war in terms of sport or business, lol. Now, the term Bush used before invading Irak - "we will search and destroy...bla,bla, WMD...etc" has been misinterpreted. Implicit in the expression is the fact that you actually find something, as in "searc, find and then destroy". I guess US was so pissed off by not finding anything that they destroyed things anyway. So I`m not sure who are the most "sketchy" :) ....period !
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    Mahox Male 18-29
    101 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 5:34 am
    Yeah real handy to have a station off 20 employees in a bunker handling the device and even better its not that easy to move the damn machine to the battlefield where its neaded.
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    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 5:46 am
    As I am a writer I have to dramatize this :
    Officer : Excuse me Sir, it`s come to our knowledge that you have a handgun !
    Bored-am-i : Eh, well, I don`t. Good day.
    Officer : One moment, we know that you have a gun. We have our intellegence and we got proof that our evidence is valid.
    Bored-am-i : Well I don`t have a gun for crying out loud.
    Officer : We have information saying you hide it under your pillow. May we search the premises ?
    Bored-am-i : No ! Do you have a warrent for that ?
    Officer : No, we don`t need a warrent, the best for you is to cooperate with....
    Bored-am-i : ...then why did you ask if you could ?
    Officer : Listen, now you`re getting cheeky, step out of the way, Sir, cause we`re going in !
    Bored-am-i : I won`t, it`s my goddamn house, and you have no warrent !
    Officer : Listen smart-ass, we are going in, get it ?
    Bored-am-i : Am I Sir Smart-Ass now ?
    (My cellphone rings in my pocket with a discret bip-bip and I reach for it, pull
  15. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 5:46 am
    look. we went in and started the road to what needed to be done. i guess u were happy with saddam in power, torturing his own people. maybe u were happy seeing the US lose all those lives. hell maybe you nay sayers were part of the group chanting "take that yankees", but here this my absent minded fellow human (if i can even call u that) we are not ones to sit and take a sucker punch and crawl to a corner. they hit, we hit back harder. its that simple. if u call what happend at the wtc an "excuse to go to war" it suddenly makes sense why we are a world super power. im really sick of the people abroad claming that america has an "appetite for war" NEWS FLAS JERK OFFS!! WERE DOING WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE!! so even if we did some how end up in iraq, the people there will be a hell of a lot happier sans saddam. ugh, your weak minded attitudes dusgust me. f*uck u and ur attitude towards my country. guess now we know wtf ud do if your country ever took a sneak
  16. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 5:46 am
    Officer (screaming) : HOLD IT MOTHERdratER ! Don`t move !
    Bored-am-i : ?
    The sound of the cellphone increases and I pull it out.
    Officer : Put your weapon down and get down on the ground ! (Pulls a big black automatic gun from …somewhere)
    I push the answer button.
    Officer (over his shoulder) : HE`S ACTIVATING IT ! You asked for it sucker !

    KLICK

    BAMBAMBAMBAMBAM !

    Phonespeaker : ”George ? It`s dad, are you there ? Helloo….

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 5:51 am
    some things just need to be done and if u willing to wait in line and go through all the red tape while people are being tortured everyday, humilated everyday, and generally treated like dirt every day, dont preach to me about right and wrong...ever
  18. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:05 am
    Well I guess mikallang reply says it better than my little drama. The anger ! WOW

    Funny, though, you have Che Guevara as an icon to your name, probably because you thing he looks cool. Because America certainly went highwire on the communists once upon a time as well....

    Since US sits on the largest arsenal of weapons ever in world history, don`t you understand that the rest of the world gets a bit uneasy ?

  19. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:09 am
    Funny, though, you have Che Guevara as an icon to your name, probably because you thing he looks cool. Because America certainly went highwire on the communists once upon a time as well....

    che sttod for the fair and decent treatment of human beings. so yes..i think thats "cool" :)

    funny how u manage to change topics when uve been made to look like the ugly side of a donkey

  20. Profile photo of TheGreatFuzz
    TheGreatFuzz Male 18-29
    17 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:13 am
    That was a very classic and humorous display of American propaganda, do you guys think you are the only country with this technology. Im confident that other countries are laughing at that system.. just like I laughed when I read about your first missile defence system failing december last year. Check out http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4097267.stm for more info on that story.

    And as for mikallang that Che Guevara display pic makes all your patriotism ironically pointless. So please step back and help make your country a little less unjustifiably egotistical.

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:13 am
    another thing... have an intelligent conversation. dont resort to childish remarks like ur "thought it was cool" quote of the century.
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    Tobblo Male 18-29
    17 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:14 am
    I really need one of those!
  23. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:17 am
    Yeah you get uneasy with the US sitting on a stockpile of weapons, but when the likes of Adolph Hitler, Emperor Hirohito, Joseph Stalin, Saddam Hussein, the Ayatollah, Al-Qaeda and the Taliban sit on weapons, your ok with that.
  24. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:18 am
    hmm "FUZZ" u should be worried more about ur own problems....poverty, civil war, AIDS, yeah alot of UR people think that raping a virgin cures aids, which bring to mind another one of UR problems..the need for education. and as i stated ur undereducated fool... che stood for the fair and equal treatment of all persons. i dont have to agree with everything he said..hell i sont even have to like him, but i do admit when someones got a good point.
  25. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:21 am
    TheGreatFuzz <=== r u really african living in america?? cause alot of african immagrate here because africa is doing sooooo poorly. its not good to hand out advice when u r in no position to do so....
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    TheGreatFuzz Male 18-29
    17 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:22 am
    i enjoyed that mikallang.
    "undereducated"
    that made my day :)

    now if you will excuse me im off to cure aids, stop poverty and civil war.. and arrest rapists.

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    TheGreatFuzz Male 18-29
    17 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:24 am
    and for the record im a social worker living in Johannesburg South Africa.
  28. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:29 am
    oh wait..u forgot to mention my comment about che. nothing on that?
  29. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:32 am
    nice to know it bothered u so much that u would actually bother to mention to me where u live and what u do. i could care less. lets see ur social work stop people from being tortured. lets see ur social work stop a sports player from getting pissed on just for losing a game. lets see ur social work give a nation back its pride and independence.
  30. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:34 am
    u say were arrogant? i say ur just upset because ur country isnt where we are. i say that ur so frustrated with ur own situation that u just need to vent it on someone who jsut happens to be an obvious scapegoat. ponder that while ur doing ur "social work" pfff
  31. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:42 am
    Well BSR, again U guys just prove my point. And as a reminder, the historic examples you pull out where in fact defencive wars as hitler, etc etc went to war on another country. While you are stating : If you don`t do as we want we`ll simply attack you. Easy as that.

    Fun Fact : UN is the global wathdog on our planet, trying to stabelize warzones throug diplomacy, helping people in need, curing health etc. In 1995 US owed UN about 1 billion dollars after lagging behind on the contingents to kepp the organization running. Most other countries pay their support each year. On David Letterman a few weeks ago there was an interview with Ted Turner, the founder of CNN. He thaugt this debt to the UN was a discrase and has the last ten years payed of the whole thing. Now thats good thinking. In the book "Plan B" (he says) theres a price on solving most problems in the world. It adds up to about 5% og the annual military budget in USA. Now that`s a fun fact.

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    TheGreatFuzz Male 18-29
    17 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:43 am
    i think you need to calm down.
    and as for che... he was a brutal totalitarian who helped spread brutal totalitarianism throughout Latin America. he was a leftist, narcissist who committed atrocities but some how this is overlooked for the worldwide symbol of freedom he stands for. Che`s bad actions throughout his life are not counterbalanced with good actions. i am saying he did bad, he also did good and for this rebellious image he is portrayed by i think this is why he is remembered. he was a good guy, at the same time he did evil things. I hope i have managed to clarify a few things as you seem to be intent on keeping your view of che guevara as a good guy.
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    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:49 am
    This is a fact, and I support Fuzz 100% (check your dictionaries boyz).

    I don`t see any humor or insight from these guys, Fuzz, do you ? A danish guy once wrote :

    "The one who sees humor as just humor
    And seriousness as just seriousness,
    Hasn`r really understood any of the two
    at all."

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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:49 am
    LOl are you serious??? The USA pays a quarter of all UN funding! Not to mention we house and let all the scum from around the World live hear with Diplomatic Immunity rules....If it were up to me they would ditch out and make them meet somewhere else, they are as useless as the defunct League of Nations.
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    TheGreatFuzz Male 18-29
    17 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:51 am
    "nice to know it bothered u so much that u would actually bother to mention to me where u live and what u do."

    - you asked me remember?

  36. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:52 am
    "i think you need to calm down."

    u come here and insult us right off the bat and tell me to calm down. u need to change ur approach. and as for che im pretty sure ur thinking of fidel...che was shot dead by the bolivians.....and prior to becoming the revollutionary that he was, he was a doctor u putz.tell me why would such a man who leaves his home and good paying job to go and "spread brutal totalitarianism throughout Latin America" be remembered as a national hero? hmm clarify that. learn to communicate well with others before u decide to insult them. can u manage to socially work that one out....

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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:54 am
    Stabilizing war zones??? Even more hilarious, how did they do in Palestine? Rwanda? Somalia? Sudan? Bosnia? Vietnam? Cambodia? Korea? Shall I go on and continue the great UN`s prestigious record on stabilizing war zones? lol
  38. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:56 am
    "While you are stating : If you don`t do as we want we`ll simply attack you. Easy as that."

    u must be mentally ill. when in god name have we ever said something to this effect. i do remember something along the lines of "hey we got hit..hard, you wanna help, thats fine, u dont, well f8uck u to. were gonna do what we gotta do"

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 6:58 am
    Thursday, October 27, 2005 6:21:48 AM
    TheGreatFuzz <=== r u really african living in america?? that was my question. get ur facts straight before making an a*ss out of urself.
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    flipz4 Male 18-29
    266 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:01 am
    Mahox, this wouldnt be used on the battlefield you idiot.
  41. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:05 am
    im really sick of these individuals in other countries that think they have the US sooo figured out. the reality of it is that they dont know sh*it about us. they stereotype and insult us without merit. tsk tsk
  42. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 7:07 am
    The fact still stands : Ted Turner payed the total US debt to the UN.
    Che Guevara had the mission to spread the revelutionary and violent ideology of chinese communism in Zaire and Bolivia.

    And third : Both mikellang and theBSR calls me and Fuzz : asses, saying drat you, i couldn`t care less (about fuzz`s job as a social worker), and calling tha representatives in the UN for scum. :)
    We didn`t really call you guys anyhing. I guess if I met one of you face to face discussing this you would probably kill me if I said something you didn`t like to hear.


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    flipz4 Male 18-29
    266 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:08 am
    And by the way Fuzz, nelson mandela sucks. Is Nigeria launching a similar system anytime soon? The whole continent of Africa has bigger problems than warfare. Maybe we could use this machine to zap the drat out of Fuzz. I got your back mikallang
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    Homer Jay Male 18-29
    1135 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:16 am
    I need one of those now
  45. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:19 am
    bored-am-I..HEY!! before u go pulling my fuxing words out of context (idiot, i swear). my point was "why is fuzz tellilng me this? i didnt ask him what he does for a living"

    and this is what BSR said u dolt===>"Not to mention we house and let all the scum from around the World live hear with Diplomatic Immunity"

    my fu8cking god u r a bigger idiot than u pervioulsy set out to be. in short..uve outdone urself.

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    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:34 am
    Yes exactly : The scum of the world.
    Thats what he wrote. To me that proves intolerance. Ambassadors all over the world has immunity, so also with american ambassadors abroad.
    And for the remark to Fuzz : why do he need your aproval of telling he`s a socialworker, even if u didn`t ask ? Did any of us tell you to open your mouth ?
    And by the way you added another three insults in your post, while I still havent called you anyhing. Your agression seems to have no limit, and far from dividing between subject and person.

    You live in a big, beautiful country, why don`t U just think : Hey, that`s awsome, this is a great place and I`m happy !" instead of going bananas when someone expresses a worry about your military power and agression.

    I guess your not wery content, and thats too bad.

  47. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:41 am
    The american mentality is always fun to read, bescribing war in terms of sport or business, lol. Now, the term Bush used before invading Irak - "we will search and destroy...bla,bla, WMD...etc" has been misinterpreted. Implicit in the expression is the fact that you actually find something, as in "searc, find and then destroy". I guess US was so pissed off by not finding anything that they destroyed things anyway <--- this was ur initial post..the majority of it. sit boo boo..sit. listen if ur going to make a comment to go back on it later because i clarify the misunderstanding that u had on the issue. as for me "being asked to open my mouth" this is a forum..is it not?
  48. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 7:47 am
    "You live in a big, beautiful country, why don`t U just think : Hey, that`s awsome, this is a great place and I`m happy !" instead of going bananas when someone expresses a worry about your military power and agression."

    because unlike some we see having such a great country as a responsibility. believe it or not there are bad people in the world that torture and maim others just for sport. for some of us that doesnt sit well... i gues for someone like u its ok. so when someone like u decides to come along and lecture me on the finer points of being a human being, yes, i wil get angry. yes, i will insult u. no, i will not sit here and let u talk trash about my country, that has been so good to me, and u, and them, and them. understand that?

  49. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 8:00 am
    Last thing first : My point was just that u accused Fuzz for telling he is a social worker even if you didn`t ask for that information. And that was my point - it`s an open forum, so you don`t dictate what people wants to post. And neither do I.

    And you wrote : another thing... have an intelligent conversation. dont resort to childish remarks." Well to this, again, it`s you calling me names and insulting my person instead of sticking to the subject. The log proves me right.
    And you remark to fuzz when U say : "r u really african living in america?? that was my question. get ur facts straight before making an a*ss out of urself." Shows three things -first a riddicolous concpiration-theory - that Fuzz is actually living in USA, thus beeing a liar. Two : Dictating the premises of the discussion in a totalitarian style, and , three, ending up in the conclution that Fuzz is a liar and making a total a^s^s of himself, the insult part of the message. So much for "inte

  50. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
    785 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 8:02 am
    llegent conversation"
  51. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 8:13 am
    he stated that i asked him..i did not. nor was it of any importance to me... u did indeed send this conversation to the dogs. u have yet to make a point that has anything to do with the initial topic as oppose to nitpicking. you havent responded to anything i said oher than these tiny things. guess u cant really think of anything to say that actually has some meaning to it. figures. people like u rarely do. u sure do enjoy pulling things out of context just to avoid the issues. wow. u r indeed the idiot ive been telling everyone about so far....
  52. Profile photo of atchetarry
    atchetarry Male 18-29
    65 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 8:20 am
    sure 5% of the American military budget would solve a lot of the worlds problems but it could also buy a huge amount of weaponary for people who would make the world a much worse a place with it. The problem isn`t how much is given in aid, its the fact the the countries that need it don`t have governments and people that would put it to good use, many of them would just make themselves worse with it.
  53. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 8:21 am
    to bored-i-am:

    know what..im done trying to communicate with u. u cant hold down an argument and u just barely make sense. have a nice life weakness.

  54. Profile photo of pal666
    pal666 Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:38 am
    hmm wierd
  55. Profile photo of bored-am-I
    bored-am-I Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:08 am
    LOL, yes it`s a weird world, pal666.
    Anyone for a cold beer ?
  56. Profile photo of Mahox
    Mahox Male 18-29
    101 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 12:30 pm
    flipz4 yeah because Howitzer is actually a really long coast to coast weapon, geez you have to be proud to first call me an idiot before thinking and then backing up that narro sighted fool named mikallang.
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    Rammstein221 Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:26 pm
    If an enemy force landed on our beaches do you think they would bring no form of artillery? No large guns, no tanks? You don`t have to be in your own country to attack someone. Why don`t you think before you post things and call people fools.
  58. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 4:02 pm
    Mahox:
    narrow sighted based on what? u really want into this argument or r u just looking for a reaction? define narrowsighted. give me an example of me being narrowsighted. come up with ur own set of informed opinions before deciding to jump on the bandwagon... prick :)
  59. Profile photo of Deman
    Deman Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:21 pm
    "im really sick of these individuals in other countries that think they have the US sooo figured out. the reality of it is that they dont know sh*it about us. they stereotype and insult us without merit. tsk tsk"

    And I`m sure that the other countries the US meddles in are sick of the US thinking it`s got them figured out...

  60. Profile photo of stikfas
    stikfas Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:33 pm
    that was cool!
  61. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:37 pm
    when has the US "meddled" in others affiars? bring some valid facts to the table.
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    mooseyfate Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:09 pm
    ah, but can it carry a tune?
  63. Profile photo of Deman
    Deman Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:15 pm
    Vietnam War, Iraq War, we`ve meddled in Australia`s Elections http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3802247.stm
    Venezuela`s dispute with Columbia http://www.chron.com/content/archive/yse...

    Want more?

  64. Profile photo of TheShape
    TheShape Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:18 pm
    This thing is most definitely intended for battlefield use.
    http://www.defense-update.com/news/MTHEL...
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    manwithplanx Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:14 pm
    weapon=cool
    If the US didnt participate in the UN most of the wars we were in wouldnt hav hapened IE nam we wer told by the un to stop the commies so we went to war the 1st persion gulf war: kuwait was in UN it got attacked UN asks US to help deal with it and WWII we didnt have to attack germany only Japan europe asked us to help with hitler and its a good thing we did or else you would be speaking german right now
  66. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 9:22 pm
    Want more?


    yeah give me more examples..cause so far uve cited none. al u have said is that we were meddling and then u rattled out a few countries. im sure ur just going with popular convention. so go in depth and tell me what specifically, sans specualtion, we have done that is meddling. and i can tell u right now. we didnt meddle in iraq. were saving a country. thats the us and everyone involved..... bored-am-i..ur rediculous...hiding..shame on u

  67. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 9:25 pm
    the bbc cant be trusted with anything considered news media. they talk too much trash about everyone else without even reporting the facts....gg bbc
  68. Profile photo of atchetarry
    atchetarry Male 18-29
    65 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 9:37 pm
    Hey, if the US hadn`t `meddled` in Australia`s affairs 60+ years ago, I`d be speaking Japaneese.
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    geckosrock Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 9:51 pm
    that sounded fake cuz of the sound affect put in there from command and conquer
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    sertrbl Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:30 pm
    i havent read the arguments, so dont think thats whyim brining this up. i just think it felt appropriate.
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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 10:41 pm
    LOL that was so wrong but so funny.
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    mikallang Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:44 pm
    p.s. america does most certainly pwn >.<
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    Osprey39 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:46 pm
    For the record, folks, mikallang doesn`t speak for all Americans.

    Anyway, I hope you all enjoy this remarkable debate, fraught with clearly some of the most intelligent, original, and convincing arguments I have ever seen. Lives, no, the world, will be changed, I am certain of it. I came here searching for a mere cure for my boredom and perhaps some witticisms regarding that cure, but lo and behold! I have stumbled upon something much more fulfilling!

    I`m out of here. Enjoy.

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    cannibal151 Male 18-29
    1550 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 10:47 pm
    YES!!! america owns, this is awesome!
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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 10:48 pm
    alas... i feel i have wasted time..and of course i dont represent all americans, but when attacked i will defend :)
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    Mahox Male 18-29
    101 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 11:34 pm
    First of manwithplanx US didnt help my country poo, so we wouldn`t be speaking german even if you wouldnt have joined the WWII.
    And mikallang it`s always fun to see how ppl like you reacts, who takes these boards way too seriously.
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    varchar Male 30-39
    74 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 2:11 am
    Not sure wether or not to believe the video sondiering they repeated the bald-faced lie that was the "Patriot" missle defence system. To this day its success it cited, and yet not ONE... yes, not ONE time did it successfully perform its function. That there was no accountability for this lie to the public just boggles my mind.
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    thomaschina Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 3:44 am
    First of all I would like to stick up for the quality of journalism provided by the BBC. mikallang has accused them of being "the bbc cant be trusted with anything considered news media. they talk too much trash about everyone else without even reporting the facts"

    On the contrary, the BBC is the only broadcasting body I can think of which is required by is charter and able by that way its run to provide fair, impartial and unbiased news.

    I think mikallang hasa yet to show a case justifying America`s undoubted tendency to intervene in other country`s affairs. It is not satisfactory to mention the wtc as a sufficient reason everytime America involves itself in another country`s affairs.

    I believe that the reason for foreign hostility towards America in Europe and the rest of the world, is because America seems unwilling to engage with the international community, but instead where it is unable to gain support, chooses to act unlaterally.

  79. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 4:17 am
    That`s Unilateral which means means they went to War alone. That`s just a lie, 32 countries went in with us. It`s kind of insulting to them when you say that.
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    thomaschina Male 18-29
    6 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 4:26 am
    Fair point, however the US still chose to act without the backing of the UN, an action that they are now regretting as understandably the UN is reluctant to send UN peace keeping troops to Iraq, which has resulted in the US and British armies becomming trapped without an exit strategy.

    The international community understandably feels hostile towards America because of this disregard for the UN in its role as a forum for international cooperation.

    It is quite telling then that Britain has been left to try and smooth over relations between the US and Old Europe, who were opposed to such hasty intervention. Bear in mind that had the US waited, it may well have been able to secure UN backing for action in Iraq.

    As a question, why did the US go to war in Iraq?

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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 4:42 am
    To answer that question is simple, its a battle in the War on Terror. When Bush gave his speech after we were attacked he clearly said in his speech that any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be considered a hostile regime and that we would pursue them. Saddam threatened us directly many times and had terrorist training facilities within his borders. That`s why we went to war.
    The UN had 12 years to intervene in Iraq, but as always they proved to be a useless organization. They would never got involved because they knew the "Oil for Food" scandal would be exposed. The UN loved Saddam because he lined all of the top officials pockets. Why do you put so much trust in that overly corrupt organization?
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    thomaschina Male 18-29
    6 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 6:26 am
    Was Iraq an effective choice of target in the War of Terror? First of all Iraq is by no means the only country which harbours terrorists and tolerates terrorist training camps within its borders. You need only look at recent developments with the insurgency forces in Basra, who are now being shown how to make shaped charges allegedly by the Iranians

    Iraq itself, may well have been a poor choice of target as by comparison to other regimes in the middle east, it was not so dominated by religious fundamentalism.

    The invasion of Iraq has worsened the securtity situation. Iraq is now more unstable than ever and the ill will it has caused has led to the tragic situation where British citizens were able to carry out a terrorist bombing in London.

    I put such trust in the UN, because it is the only body, which represents international opinion. The US is only interested in one thing... itself. I agree the UN is corrupt, but so too are the US, UK and other governments.

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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 12:05 pm
    Right that`s why 400,000 Americans gave up their lives in WWII. That`s why we give Aid in one form or another to nearly EVERY country in the World with little or nothing given in return.
    Blaming the UK bombing on Iraq instead of blaming it on the people who carried it out, nice. So your saying, in essence, that terrorist can carry these acts out if they have a good reason to. Your saying it`s all our fault that they do they things they do. Justifying their actions is quite frankly sick
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    Mahox Male 18-29
    101 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 12:42 pm
    theBSR do you really believe the BS your telling (hey now I now what BSR means ;) )
    "That`s why we give Aid in one form or another to nearly EVERY country in the World with little or nothing given in return."
    Yeah right, try to prove that, like you would aid without gettingt anything in return from European countries.

    I do have to agree that arguing that the secruity was better before the is kind of stupid since they had no rights before but now theres havoc so it`s more of a lose-lose situation.

    theBSR you have some valid points but you let your stars and stripes filled posts cloud the intellectual parts of it.

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    thomaschina Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 1:42 pm
    At risk of going over old ground, the US only joined WWII after the bombing of pearl harbour 2 years after the start of the war. I am by no means diminishing the sacrifice made by the American people, I am instead criticising the actions of the American government.

    True the US does give out aid to a whole host of countries, but this is balanced by unfair trade practices which don`t benefit LEDCs in the long run.

    Please note that there is a difference between looking for an explanation for something and finding something to blame. The terrorists who carried out 9/11 or the 7/7 bombings had reasons for doing what they did. If you can tackle the reasons for terrorism, you will no longer have to tackle terrorism itself.

    The issue of human rights in Iraq is separate. I support the regime change for this reason; but in the build up to war, this was not the reason cited by our leaders.

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:11 pm
    Fair point, however the US still chose to act without the backing of the UN.

    we dont need anyones permission to defens our country. plain and simple. were the ones being accused of "butting" in so i only think if fair that u provide serious cases in which that was the case. pther wise ur just doing the same thins this other guy was doing. trying to make a point without backing it up. why shouldnd i use wtc as an example. its a might good one. is that the reason ur asking me not to? i mock the bbc because the concensus in the uk,great britian,england (ffs pick a name) is that americans r bad and ur news media reports to that effect.

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:13 pm
    thomaschina:

    how dare u accuse us of being antisocial. thats just pure rubbish. we aide everyone we can without cause orselve undue political problems. thats unsubstatiated spectualtion on ur behalf and u should be ashamed to state something so obviously untrue.

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:21 pm
    "Was Iraq an effective choice of target in the War of Terror? First of all Iraq is by no means the only country which harbours terrorists and tolerates terrorist training camps within its borders."

    r u kidding?? r u out of u head with typhoid mary?? do u know the history of iraq? have u bothered to research the atrocities against humanity by the man that was in power there? where do u get of saying was it a fair target. ill tell u what... lets hang u up and slowly torture u years at a time. then tell me how much beauracratic bs u would like us to wait for before getting rid of ur tormentor. i dont understand why u people cant understand that saddam was a very nasty person that ruled his country in a very nasty way. not only that saddam had a clear and outspoken distate for americans. say it was ur country he hated with a passion. would u want him even possibly holding on to nukes he could point at ur people??

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    mikallang Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 5:25 pm
    "The invasion of Iraq has worsened the securtity situation. Iraq is now more unstable than ever and the ill will it has caused has led to the tragic situation where British citizens were able to carry out a terrorist bombing in London."

    who is to say it wouldnt have happend eventually anyway dfor some other reason. these people that are doing these things are oppourtunists. they will kill for the most insignificant of reasons.
    as far as the secutrity situation goes....what are u speaking of? how can u make that worse? how can u make what was going on there any worse??

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:35 pm
    "Fair point, however the US still chose to act without the backing of the UN, an action that they are now regretting as understandably the UN is reluctant to send UN peace keeping troops to Iraq,"
    WOAH!! we dont regret squat. tell me.. does iraqi contstution, iraqi voting, iraqi prime minister, sound familiar to you? who told u that we regret not asking the un for anything?
  91. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:37 pm
    The issue of human rights in Iraq is separate.

    no, its not.

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:45 pm
    "At risk of going over old ground, the US only joined WWII after the bombing of pearl harbour 2 years after the start of the war."

    first were "butting" in then we`re jumping in too late. make up ur mind. and even so, we were dontaing weapons to the cause. we had our own problems back then and we didnt need to add more to them. do u know WHY we were bombed??? for giving weapons and supplied to allied troops. dont breing this up. u dont know what ur talking about.

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    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:53 pm
    True the US does give out aid to a whole host of countries, but this is balanced by unfair trade practices which don`t benefit LEDCs in the long run.
    any trade practices in particular that u would care to cite? lower tariffs for them higher for others, embargos on other countries(if ur smart u know tht cant be done)? i mean really. stop blowing smoke. seems like ur just speculating on whats happening. what unfair trade practices can be made with or agains and ledc anyway??
  94. Profile photo of mikallang
    mikallang Male 18-29
    611 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:54 pm
    well..ive replied to everyhting worth replying to in ur posts. hope u have something interesting and worthwhile to read. :)
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 11:12 pm
    Ok then thank you
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    kamikaze345 Male 13-17
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    November 1, 2005 at 8:43 pm
    That`s a lot of posts mikallang...
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    mikallang Male 18-29
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    November 1, 2005 at 11:08 pm
    just making a point

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