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Date: 10/27/05 02:35 AM

142 Responses to If Fox News had been around throughout history

  1. Profile photo of buddy
    buddy Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:49 am
    Link: If Fox News had been around throughout history - Ha!
  2. Profile photo of ninja_mut
    ninja_mut Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:57 am
    I liked the last one.

    First post.

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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:58 am
    If the rest of today`s media were around during WWII we would have quit early.....we lost upwards of 10,000-15,000 soldiers in single battles. They were all giddy about us losing our 2000th soldier this week.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:08 am
    Where are Hitlers weapons of Mass destruction?? We have no right to occupy the sovereign nations of Japan and Germany and force Democracy down their throats, it will never work!
    Who are these right wing nuts that want to overthrow our King George? War is not the answer!
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    flipz4 Male 18-29
    266 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 3:15 am
    Hah, another Anti-Fox News link. God i love this website.
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    ten_10 Female 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:49 am
    I love the spanish inquisition one....
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    benjbenj Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:15 am
    Martin Luther King `African American or Anti-American?`. Yes, if Fox was around back then, they would definitely ask this question. How embarrassing.
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    TheShape Male 30-39
    568 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 5:15 am
    The Bill Maher thing was funny, this...eh, not so much.
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    naominoggin Female 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 5:54 am
    yeah, the spanish inquisition one cracked me up :D
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    S_J_W Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:21 am
    "Where are Hitlers weapons of Mass destruction??"

    He was committing mass genocide with plans on advancing throughout the world. At the point he started out, no one had a WMD. In fact, the main reason we created the A-bomb was fear that the Germans would crate one first. He was trying to do it through military might.

    "Who are these right wing nuts that want to overthrow our King George?"

    Actually, the founding fathers, or "nuts" in this case, were revolutionaries who wanted freer government than what was available under British rule. That would have made them left wing compared to Great Britain’s ideas of how we should have been ruled.

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    youth Female 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:21 am
    "we found him like that"
    mwahahaha
  12. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:25 am
    Actually they wanted representation in the taxation process or less taxes, which would make them more Conservative.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:28 am
    They had the balls to fight, which would make them Conservative
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:30 am
    And Liberals are for Larger government not Freer Government
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:30 am
    And I was giving equally ridiculous hypothetical news stories as this ridiculous post
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:35 am
    "At the point he started out, no one had a WMD."
    Did you ever hear of Mustard Gas?? Well that was used in WWI about 20-25 years before WWII. How about Zylon-B? Millions of people lost their lives to this WMD during that "Point"....So I would say it was pretty clear he had WMD`s
  17. Profile photo of flipz4
    flipz4 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:42 am
    stop posting BSR, we get it
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    renegadefae Female 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:06 am
    Hahahaha!....

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:22 am
    BSR - Good points.

    Keep posting.

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    pal666 Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:33 am
    tis ok!
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    Youphoric Female 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:41 am
    The Trojan Horse / Geraldo one made me giggle.
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    Youphoric Female 18-29
    39 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 8:57 am
    The Trojan Horse / Geraldo one made me giggle.
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    opiebreath Female 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 9:21 am
    Umm if you have a problem with it don`t preach to me. I liked them, regardless of whether they were "liberal" or "conservative" I thought they were hilarious!
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    MikePiano Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:06 am
    lmao.
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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:27 am
    BSR, think about a comprehensive single post instead of adding something you forgot just seconds ago.

    Mustard gas and Zyklon-B (not Zylon) are gasses, not weapons of mass destruction. They are chemical weapons and the only way for them to be of any use was to pump it into a small chamber. That Hitler had a large quantity does not qualify it as a WMD; a single, devastating bomb or somesuch is a WMD.

    Actually, the Founding Fathers wanted more rights and civil liberties (or rather, the same rights that Englishmen enjoyed over in England, specifically towards taxation). Last I saw, it is the conservatives who are restricting liberties, leaving the ACLU (left-wing) to fight and get them back.

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    MoondustWolf Female 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:32 am
    Thanks, Overman! Nice to see someone intelligent here. Get a life, BS.
    Loved this! Hilarious. And perhaps not too much of an exageration from the truth.
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    made-in-hull Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:41 am
    Im from england so i dont really get it! I`m guessing it`s a dig at the stipidity of the american media.. well thats all you ever seem to see in comedys these days! america is pretty idiotic when they belive in the crap their media spews out! Over here news is a lot less bias as it is not either side of the politcal balance!
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    Rich_in_VA Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:58 am
    Mustard gas is very much a weapon of mass destruction, so is chlorine gas, which was also used in WWI. Both of these were delivered in artillery shells and killed thousands.

    Early in WWII, the British were very worried about Hitler using gas, and they distributed gas masks to people living in the cities.

    I think it`s really pitiful that leftists feel like they have to attack Fox News, it at least provides a little balance to the CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/NYT/WP that are pretty blatantly skewed to the left.

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    Rich_in_VA Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:06 am
    I don`t think leftists are any better or worse than conservatives when it comes to civil liberties. Property rights and gun ownership rights are pretty much ignored by leftists, and they seem to have a bias against Christianity. When it comes to people making choices about what to do with their land and how to educate their children, they are much more restrictive than conservatives.

    Most conservatives I know are all for preserving civil liberties, they just want to see existing, constitutional laws enforced. They also think that laws should be created by the legislative branch, not the judicial.

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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:31 am
    Considering that mustard gas is primarily an incapacitating and blistering agent (rarely lethal save through prolonged exposure to an increase dosage, for example in a gas chamber), I don`t see how it can be considered a WMD.

    I imagine conservatives are more willing to preserve existing liberties over creating additional liberties, especially towards women and homosexuals. Think on the civil rights movement of the 50s with M.L.K. Very much a liberal movement.

    A perceived bias towards Christianity can easily be the enforcement of separation of church and state. That Christianity is the dominant religion in the States is coincidental.

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    ForAllThSin Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:52 am
    FIGHT THE MACHINE
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    lewisc007 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 12:11 pm
    Shall i be the one to point out chlorine gas and mustard gas are derivitives of the same thing? Both being yellow in colour - hense the name. And i get what people are saying - the use of gas and its effects in WW1 would qualify to be a potent weapon, but to qualify as a WMD it would have had to kill a large number of people in one go, not over repeated uses.
    Using that logic a hand gun could be a WMD as countless people have been killed by them. Yet only one or 2 people can be killed at once so its just a weapon.
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    ForAllThSin Male 18-29
    273 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 12:16 pm
    lewis has a point. but what`s this logic everyone keeps talking about. i thought the whole point was that it`s a joke. also, my mind could be considered a WMD, i got dratin mind bullets.
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    ForAllThSin Male 18-29
    273 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 12:18 pm
    ha ha ha, it put "dratin" in where i typed a bad word. te he he, those dratin commies, i was dratin this hot chick the other night..., YOU`RE DRATIN FIRED!!! dratin is the shoot
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    erikahd Female 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 12:29 pm
    Children, children. I have suppressed a longer rant than this here that started to create itself because some of you have a foolish drive to misuse Buddy`s kindhearted offerings by warping them into platforms for political positions you cannot genuinely hold anyway. Please realize it is too late to be serious (unless you feel like dying prematurely) unless you really ARE serious. In other words, please lighten up, at least here.

    If you really ARE serious and if your political sentiments are THAT intense, please go to school or the military, learn, and find a job where you can put those feelings to good use. Or skip school and become a comedian or make your own humorous website. Either path is a path of leadership. But I-A-B isn`t good place to dwell on political feelings or throw a wet towel over other people`s laughs. Please lighten up and redirect yourselves, children, those of you who haven`t. You`re hurting yourselves and your *own* future children if you don`t. End of PSA.

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    Jon1984 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 12:45 pm
    At least Americans seem interested in politics now. Could you imagine this kind of ranting occuring ten years ago? From what I can see Bush has polarised America, but at least there is a debate.

    On the plus side Bush always gives you some fodder to laugh at. Nothing perosnal, but seriously, how did someone so frighteningly poor at public speaking become your president? Last time I checked it was kind of a requirement for politicians. Look at Blair he`s got that whole smarmy slippery bastard politician thing down!

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    Mat Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:06 pm
    I don`t get it... Is it because I don`t know much about history or Fox?
  38. Profile photo of Enohead
    Enohead Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:07 pm
    erikahd -
    This is a public forum. People are free to use it as they will. To direct them to do otherwise is fascism.
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    Spazmoto Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:13 pm
    Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!
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    Athorn Female 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:33 pm
    nobody expects the spanish inquisition!
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    Athorn Female 18-29
    263 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 2:33 pm
    dammit...somebody got to it before me. haha.
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    kmdavis85 Female 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:47 pm
    "Death ruled `carpentry accident`"

    That is too funny.

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    bobbyo Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 2:57 pm
    the conservatives were brave enough to fight? um...where was Bush in vietnam.
    He`s as cowardly as Hitler. Neocons are the Nazis trying to reinvigorate. Racist, elitist, power hungry Nazis. Call it like it is.
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    Deman Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:01 pm
    enohead - To ask them to do otherwise is not fascism. To force them to do otherwise is.

    And I agree with erikahds main point. In any thread in any forum anywhere that has a political message, There will be some sort of polarization between sides, which really is unfortunate. The stereotypes in these jokes are just as true as any other stereotypes regarding race, social class, and what not. Only usually, people make less fuss if Dave Chapelle makes a joke centered on black stereotypes.

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    Rammstein221 Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:03 pm
    Pilate says: We found him like that lmao

    The way I look at it, Nazis are extreme right wing, and hippies are extreme left. I hate both of them, so I`m in the middle.

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    ForAllThSin Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:16 pm
    what`s up with the nazi bashing, it`s all about protecting the exsistance of your race.
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    GeneralPhil Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 3:51 pm
    "That would have made them left wing compared to Great Britain’s ideas of how we should have been ruled."

    I think BSR said it when he stated that liberals want more government intervention than conservatives. Looks like he`s got his facts straight.

    "Mustard gas and Zyklon-B (not Zylon) are gasses, not weapons of mass destruction."

    Pretty sure gases that kill in numbers such as these are considered weapons. And they do a pretty healthy amount of destruction to the humans that breathe it in, also. It doesn`t have to be a nuke to be a "weapon of mass destruction". Today`s WMD is considered to be nuclear. An early 1900`s-1940`s WMD would be considered whatever caused considerable damage. In this case, poisonous gases.

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    Sporx Female 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:13 pm
    lol
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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:20 pm
    GeneralPhil, it`s unfortunate that you exclusively quote what I said to support your opinion. Read the next sentence and you`d see I called them chemical weapons. Read further in my next post and you`d see that mustard gas is primarily a blistering agent. Hitler only managed to kill millions with mustard gas by implementing gas chambers, corralling the Jews *to* it, and filling them.
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    Enohead Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:23 pm
    Deman -
    "ask", "direct", "force"... you know what I was trying to say.
    And the fact that there is polarization between sides is hardly unfortunate. Quite the opposite - we live in a democracy, and without opposing viewpoints we would be doomed as a society.
    I agree with you about stereotypes, though - people wouldn`t get so upset about stereotypes if there weren`t a nugget of truth in them.
    If you made a joke about Asians eating fried chicken and watermelon, people would just say, "huh?"
  51. Profile photo of mooseyfate
    mooseyfate Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:32 pm
    but Fox has the Simpsons which more than makes up for it
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    gotribe06 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 4:34 pm
    Another lame liberal Fox link.
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    made-in-hull Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 5:27 pm
    america`s s,h,i,t anyways so who cares!
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    wildman20 Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 5:32 pm
    awesome
    fox is the best
    as a matter of fact i work for fox
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    jimbodahobo Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 5:51 pm
    seriously why is it that everyone bashes fox for being the only moderate/conservative news channel

    dont liberals preech tolerence for diversity?

    and if you dont like it dont watch it thats what that fabulous thing called a remote is for

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    jimbodahobo Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 5:55 pm
    still funny stuff
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    jimbodahobo Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 5:56 pm
    just so i can have a triple post...

    wasnt lincoln a republican?

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    Deman Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:05 pm
    Enohead-
    "And the fact that there is polarization between sides is hardly unfortunate. Quite the opposite - we live in a democracy, and without opposing viewpoints we would be doomed as a society."

    Ah, I don`t think there`s too much of a problem with the polarization when it comes to seriously discussing politics, save for when it automatically shuts a person`s mind off to another`s viewpoint. However, I still think it sad that when it comes to jokes that people get uppity about it, and this goes for jokes on both sides.

    (and I do think there is a slight problem with polarization because it usually infers that everything is black or white, not a rainbow of colors.)

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    ace3015 Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:06 pm
    blah blah blah I try not to watch the news too depressing
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:38 pm
    Uh Hitler used Zyklon-B in the chambers not mustard gas, but keep saying things and maybe people will believe them
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    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:39 pm
    I can`t decide which makes me laugh harder... the fact that BSR posted 5 times in a span of 10 min. or the fact that manorrd thought they were "good points". haha

    BTW these are too funny. "We found him like that"

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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:41 pm
    Or maybe it is the fact that you and your friends have discussions about me
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    bang_ Female 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:48 pm
    I agree with manorrd.
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    bang_ Female 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:49 pm
    And true, jimbodahobo. They do want people to be tolerant of diversity.
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    DrewK Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 6:56 pm
    Crap!
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    mooseyfate Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 7:17 pm
    "america`s s,h,i,t anyways so who cares!"

    why are you on an american website?

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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 7:45 pm
    I stand corrected. However, mustard gas is only really a killer when under the circumstances I described, and not a WMD.
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    Dizzy_K Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 7:49 pm
    anti fox links are sometimes funny, yeah, the spanish inquisition one was funny :P
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 7:56 pm
    But Mustard gas did kill, slowly over around a 4-5 week period, torturing its victims with excruciating pain.....that`s not mass destruction?
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    aidious Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:25 pm
    I`m not American so don`t really get the irony of this. But I`m assuming FOX are regarded as racist in regards to their news reporting?
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    Deman Male 18-29
    70 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 8:30 pm
    aidious, Fox is considered more on the conservative side when it comes to news broadcasting. But like jimbabodbmadoiblajdbimadobooboo said, use the remote if`n you`re not likin` what yer seein`
  72. Profile photo of ChickenMan
    ChickenMan Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:47 pm
    Hmmm... Mr. Lincoln was Republican... the guy who made those seems to forget that...
  73. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:48 pm
    No aidious, they are considered Conservative, therefor automatically considered racist. Even though the Republican party was formed, in essence, to end slavery. Its amazing that Democrats always try to play the "friend of the minority" role even though they are the ones through out American history that have suppressed Blacks. They were the heart and sole of the Old South that split this country during our Civil War in an effort to keep blacks in chains to serve them. Alabama Governor George Wallace who used his National Guard to try and stop segregation from occurring in his schools, he was a, get this, Democrat.
    The Democrats made a huge stink a few years back about Trent Lott blowing smoke up Strom Thurmonds ass at his 100th birthday party, because Thurmond was a former segregationist. Conveniently they forgot that their Senior Senator from W. Virginia was a local head of the KKK and defended the Klan for years in both the House and Senate.
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    S_J_W Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 8:52 pm
    "They had the balls to fight, which would make them Conservative"

    Would that have made the Russian revolutionaries conservatives? Liberals fight when needed. It was Franklin D. Roosevelt, a Democrat, who saw America through WWII.

    "As Commander-in-Chief of the Army and Navy I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense, that always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us. No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people, in their righteous might, will win through to absolute victory." ~ FDR

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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 9:02 pm
    They want to discredit Fox as a credible news source but its all the Liberal mainstream media outlets that are always discrediting themselves. Jayson Blair, New York Times, caught fabricating stories. Stephen Glass, The New Republic, same fabrication thing. Dan Rather, 60 Minutes(CBS News division), pushed an explosive story through during the Election last year that could have been damaging to the President without ever checking the facts. It turned out the document they used was a fake. Here are 3 examples of Liberal News being outrageous, give me one that Fox, who by the way is Fair and Balanced, used.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 9:15 pm
    Well I`m glad you used FDR as an example because didn`t he abuse his powers during the War? Imprisoned Japanese Americans, for being Japanese Americans.
    Ran for an unpresidented 3rd and 4th term.
    Supressed press freedoms.
  77. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 9:22 pm
    Very unliberal like things! Tsk Tsk!
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    benjbenj Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 9:29 pm
    People should watch `Outfoxed`. They`ll find out that Fox has as much to do with sound journalism as a leaking bin bag with a fragrant perfume.
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    Maelstrom_x Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 9:33 pm
    lol...

    Fox News seriously sucks. I especially hate that Bill O`Reilly dude. What a retard.

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    geckosrock Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:03 pm
    lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao lmfao
  81. Profile photo of ChickenMan
    ChickenMan Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:25 pm
    Wow... Bsr, those are some good facts...
  82. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 10:55 pm
    As far as Outfoxed goes....they are a Liberal group that is a "Watchdog" not for the press in whole but just FoxNews.....is that not a clue that they are biased? Check out the Media Research Center http://www.mediaresearch.org/
    Yes, they are a Conservative Watchdog group that combs over all News outlets, Fox included, to pick out Bias. They also credit Mainstream media when they are being fair. Lets see Outfoxed credit FoxNews for something.........And thank you Chickenman
  83. Profile photo of S_J_W
    S_J_W Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:19 pm
    "Well I`m glad you used FDR as an example because didn`t he abuse his powers during the War?"

    Well, it just goes to show you that liberals can be just as rotten as conservatives. FDR’s abuse of power is no more outrageous than Bush using the patriot act as a way to violate the privacy or American citizens or commit to war over bad information and suddenly pretend that we initially went there to liberate Iraq rather than uncover non-existent WMD’s and links to terrorism. I’m sure that in both of these men’s minds, their actions were completely justified.

    You never answered my question of your statement "They had the balls to fight, which would make them Conservative". Would you consider the reds of the Russians communist revolution to be conservative simply because they had the “balls” to fight? How about Spartacus and his army of slaves?

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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:39 pm
    BSR, if you are only looking for one incident of Fox News being outrageous, would you truly give that incident any credit? Don`t say it depends on what it may be: any incident would deviate from being Fair and Balanced, yes? I`m not about to give you any examples if you`re not fully ready to believe your news source distorts often significantly the actual news.
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    NimSim Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:41 pm
    Okay, I just had to add something real fast. By the way, I`m a moderate, so I suppose some people could say that I`m too weak to choose a proper belief. Other people could say that I choose not to fall into one set of specific party beliefs. But anyway, I just wanted to bring up that Lincoln, though a Republican by title had modern Democrat beliefs. This is easily proven with simple logic. Southern seceding states wanted staes rights and less of a govt. influence. That puts them in league with modern republicans. The Union wanted the natl. govt. to regulate slavery (eventually). This govt. interference puts them as Democrats. Lincoln was, if not a Democrat, a liberal. The core beliefs of the two parties basically switched around the time of Teddy Roosevelt. Also, wasn`t George Wallace a Dixiecrat? Anyway, before you go bringing up Lincoln`s republican status, please look into the historical context. Thank you.
  86. Profile photo of ChickenMan
    ChickenMan Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:48 pm
    "FDR’s abuse of power is no more outrageous than Bush using the patriot act as a way to violate the privacy or American citizens"

    It is a necessary evil. If we had the Patriot Act before 9/11, it would not have happened. Almost guarenteed.

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    Miami_FL653 Male 13-17
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:51 pm
    s_j_w, there is a big difference between puting the entire Japaneese-American population into prison camps and making sure that some people aren`t terrorists.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 27, 2005 at 11:53 pm
    Actually that`s a famous Liberal twisting of the truth..........The reason outlined for going to War in Iraq was the fact that Saddam would not allow inspectors into his facilities and posed a real threat to the region. The intelligence on the Wmds was used in his speech highlighting what a danger Saddam was to the Free world. You say no links to terrorism???? There are suicide bombings on a daily basis in Iraq, Al qaeda has an Iraq chapter, and have you ever heard of Salman Pak?? That was the Terror training facility in Iraq long before the war started. Plus there have been plenty of weapons that Saddam should not have had found in Iraq. Did Bush imprison all Arabs after 9/11? Did Bush squeeze the press to make things positive for the War effort? If he did he did a poor job, because the press has reported nearly all negative news from the war.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2005 at 11:55 pm
    Thats because you don`t have any Overmann
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    ChickenMan Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:01 am
    The few conservatives on this site are able to hold their own, nice.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:08 am
    And as far as the Reds in Russia and FDR and Spartacus. The Reds fought for a power grab, disguised as a cultural Revolution. FDR did the right thing can`t blame him, I was taking more of a shot at modern day Liberals with my comment. And I`m not sure if Spartacus was Liberal.
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    S_J_W Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:16 am
    "there is a big difference between puting the entire Japaneese-American population into prison camps and making sure that some people aren`t terrorists."

    Yes, the difference is between wrongfully holding American citizens and bombing civilian areas in Iraq resulting in civilian casualties with no solid justification for war. Neither of these actions are acceptable. And BSR, Al Qaeda having a branch in Iraq doesn’t automatically mean that the government is working with them. In fact, we have yet to find any ties between Sadam’s government and the terrorist organization and the 9/11 commission says that Sadam turned down bin Laden’s request for cooperation because of Osama support for anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan. Think of it this way, we have militias and Neo-Nazi groups in the US, does that mean that our government is funding them?

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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:19 am
    halirious because you know its true
  94. Profile photo of S_J_W
    S_J_W Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:19 am
    "I`m not sure if Spartacus was Liberal"

    Well, considering that he was a slave who was seeking freedom from his oppressors, I’d surmise that he was just a bit more inclined towards liberal ideals than that the Romans were.

  95. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:32 am
    Lincoln a Liberal thats grand....Actually The Southern States were only interested in States rights concerning slavery. Sort of how Liberls are concerned about States rights when it concerns Gay marriage, Al Gores election, Bob Toricelli`s disgrace 2 years ago.......etc.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:35 am
    Well American Slaves were fighting Liberals so I`m not sure you are correct in your assumption
  97. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:37 am
    And you are flat out telling a lie when you say we bomb civilian ares in Iraq! We more than any country ever has, try to avoid civilian targets at all costs....sometimes it costs our service men and women their lives. Keep spewing the Liberal talking points if it makes you feel better
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    HOBYandy Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:38 am
    this was a pretty stupid post. somebody needs to learn what conservatism means.
  99. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:42 am
    BSR`s "facts" are actually manipulations of definition and standard. Many of them are common fallacies that a rational person would be able to pick out if they were properly trained in the philosophy of logic. Unfortunately not many americans are so the ignorance continues.
    For example
    "Democrats always try to play the "friend of the minority" role even though they are the ones through out American history that have suppressed Blacks" This is actually not even remotely true, Sure you can pick out one or two examples and feel good about yourself but if you look at the baseline statistics democrates and liberals were the proponents of civil rights and many equality based movements. Take a guess who statistically has been in opposition of these movements...Republicans. Its not a big difference between slavery and jim crow (another conservative supported concept).
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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:44 am
    Give examples, please
  101. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:52 am
    Then comes the conservative "poisoning of the well" any educated person knows what is wrong with that. Facts are facts no matter where they come from (Fox News, CNN) The "liberalism" of the media is actually a standard way of discrediting facts without confronting the facts. When one comments on 3 instances in which "liberal" media screwed up and then uses that as an assessment of other unrelated media outlets, it is an overused attempt to generalize situations.
    Then we come to FDR, a man who BSR believes created Stalin. (he said it not me), its obvious that there seems to be a double standard when one president wrongly imprisons people, invalidates the constitution, say its in the name of "freedom" and yet another can do it and say its in the name of "freedom" but then its OK. This isn`t a fallacy its called hypocracy.
  102. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:52 am
    Jim Crow was A Democrat supported concept....It was southern Democrats, bitter over the war that Wanted 2 separate societies, black and white. The south only became Republican with Nixon and his "Southern Strategy" starting in the late 60`s
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    bobbyo Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:53 am
    one word .... LOOFAH!

    Loofah loofah loofah...... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Bill loves the loofah.

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    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:54 am
    I gave 3 examples and asked for one in return on your end???? so???? Where are they?
  105. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 12:55 am
    You sure do spend a lot of post mentioning me, I`m flattered, thanks
  106. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
    285 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:04 am
    Then there is the envoking of "outfoxed" being biased. No duh its biased. but then you give another biased media "watchdog" rely on their facts and state that these are more valid? That too is hypocracy. Is it you want to win or do you want to be right? I can`t even tell anymore with pundit brainwashed americans.
    Saddam had no links to 9-11 or established relationship with Al-Queda, that is a fact that is commonly overlooked by the right. The Iraq chapter of Al-Queda was more than likely established during the US occupation, not hard to find these facts.
    Another common misconception is that we invaded a person, Saddam NO we invaded a country. In a war that has killed more than 25,000 civilians, it seems a tad ironic that this war was meant to be a pre-emptive strike against the possibility of civilians dying. Even more Ironic is that the crimes identified by the US are crimes that Regan and Bush Sr. helped Saddam commit. Why isn`t Bush Sr. in jail fa
  107. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 1:09 am
    Wow you just follow the Liberal playbook to the tee, don`t ya?
  108. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:10 am
    If you can`t understand my analysis maybe you should get your friends together to decipher it
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    Overmann Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2005 at 1:12 am
    Don`t be so sure of yourself, BSR. I`m giving you the option of deciding if you can objectively and open-mindedly evaluate any examples of inconsistency I give you concerning how accurate Fox News is. If you`re going to cry "Rubbish", then, well, what was the point? I ask you again. Will you be objective?
  110. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
    285 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:14 am
    Why isn`t Bush Sr. in jail for crimes against the Iraq people?
    If republicans are so against crimes against the humanity, then why do they support a president who invites and holds hands with the king of saudi arabia, a royal family that has been accused of commiting human rights violations for as long as Bush Sr has been around?
    What about the violations at Guantanamo Bay? Or does your bigotry not consider people who haven`t been given a trial but whose skin color is dark already guilty.
    If we have set up a democracy, then why is it the US, according to a report by world renound journalist Semour Hersh, influenced the results of the Iraqi Elections?
    Tell me my conservative fiends are you so set in thinking that you are right that you will stab the backs of every Ideal you claim to protect?
  111. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
    285 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:20 am
    Did even realize you were posting back. and I got to say Im not terribly impressed. I`ve talked to conservatives who admit many of the things above. They willing believe in a small government and lower spending and truth, thus, they recognize that Bush is a bad president because he has not supported any of those things. They also readily admit that things are not so black and white as most pundits claim they are. Putting aside politics, putting aside beliefs and biases, I truely don`t understand how anyone who follows the news and actually thinks for themselves believes GWB is an adequate president.
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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:21 am
    Do you have any ideas of your own or do you just read of an Anti-War(Anti-Republican) rally checklist??? Honestly this is the same stuff you guys cry about over and over but have no proof of
  113. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:22 am
    That`s just it, you don`t think for yourself, you answered your own question
  114. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2005 at 1:23 am
    Examples please??? Still waiting...........
  115. Profile photo of KnightmareOH
    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
    285 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:32 am
    No proof of what? What do you consider proof? You having a selective belief system is not lack of proof of anything that has been said, look it up moron. Do you only believe things that conservative pundits tell you? Can you possibly see why that might lead me to believe you have no thought of your own. My sources are journalists yours are pundits, there isn`t a person in the world who would believe you are right

    And I don`t really think you know how to read or you would have understood my previous comment

    And I`m starting to think you maybe jealous that I have friends... you seem unusally fixated on that fact. You know having friends, girlfriend, a life its not that unusual, maybe for a person who has 730 posts in a span of little over a month, but not for us "light dwellers"

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    KnightmareOH Male 18-29
    285 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:45 am
    Examples of What? If your unclear about something look it up like a big boy. Better yet if your moms not passed out, ask her to hold your hand and help you.
  117. Profile photo of Cornellan
    Cornellan Male 40-49
    3 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:46 am

    I work for Fox News

    So I am really getting a kick out of most of these replies.

    Some of you guys are very good at making it sound like you know what you are talking about.

    But trust me.... You don`t.

    I think you just want to make yourself sound smart, when in reality you dont know what you are talking about.

    This is how bad info gets passed around.

    If you dont know about the topic....Dont make yourself sound like you do.

    Cuz some people belive anything they hear

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    Deman Male 18-29
    70 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:48 am
    "Examples of What? If your unclear about something look it up like a big boy. Better yet if your moms not passed out, ask her to hold your hand and help you."

    Sorry Knightmare, while I do probably hold the same political views as you, burden of proof lies on the person making the claim.

  119. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:52 am
    Yes Knight you are the coolest person ever, give yourself a pat on the back...
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    MELio74 Female 18-29
    428 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 1:58 am
    Haha! Nice.....
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    ninja_mut Male 18-29
    185 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 2:28 am
    well, i knew this post would cause a battle.
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    b3ach_bum Male 18-29
    220 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 3:41 am
    Amusing provocative post, although I wouldn`t expect to find it on such a site, it even made the administrator exclaim "HA!" So its only fair that we have a CNN or ABC parody that pokes fun at liberal media, so maybe a creative conservative with Photoshop can give us something too.

    Biased "News" stations feed viewers what they want to believe, and report stories in different light accordingly. So its nice to trash the gross offenders. My favorite is "Pilate: We found him like that" Some pics are funny but too exaggerated to make a credible point.

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    S_J_W Male 18-29
    1465 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:57 am
    “And you are flat out telling a lie when you say we bomb civilian ares in Iraq!”

    Ok then, I guess all of the civilians being killed are just foolishly wandering off into the designated war zone…

    "some people belive anything they hear"

    So… Is that part of the Fox News mission statement?

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    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 7:58 am
    You`re missing the point, BSR. Meet me halfway, here, and say you can be as fair and balanced as you claim your news source to be. Will you give any credit at all to an opposing opinion?
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    fk Male 70 & Over
    953 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 8:38 am
    I guess I`m late to this party (and I don`t plan to stay), but that`s a great link. :-)

    As for the rest of the festivities, Fox News should frankly burn in hell. And anyone defending it (or the Bush admin, which is effectively the same thing) should have the hotter places reserved for them. There`s your "fair and balanced".

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    4464busterdo Male 30-39
    31 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 9:21 am
    BSR, you certainly have interesting opinions on matters.
    You also like to play fast and loose with the "facts" and "truths" with various issues.
    Try learning all the sides to a story before you open your mouth.
  127. Profile photo of Athorn
    Athorn Female 18-29
    263 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 10:31 am
    Can someone explain to me why it is that every time someone posts something that has anything REMOTELY similar to anything political, everyone goes crazy about it? Holy crap...who cares?
  128. Profile photo of diemorondie
    diemorondie Female 18-29
    648 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 11:54 am
    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition! hahha. I don`t care how many times it`s been said already.
  129. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 11:58 am
    Why are you asking my permission to give your opinion man, just do it....it`s ok lol
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    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 2:14 pm
    Oh, I freely give my opinion whether it`s wanted or not, socially acceptable or not. In this instance, though, I`m wondering if you`re going to make it worth my while to type it all and find what you would consider credible sources of my information.
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    snottydyck Male 40-49
    695 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 2:37 pm
    its too bad the left wing media is so afraid of reporting the truth.
  132. Profile photo of NimSim
    NimSim Male 18-29
    12 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 3:21 pm
    Yes, I stand by my point that Lincoln was a liberal. I notice that you didn`t give much response to that opinion as well as no solid proof. I suppose I should elaborate a tad, though. Lincoln was a liberal for his time. Today, he`d be an ultraconservative. But then, most conservatives today would be ultra liberals in the time of Lincoln. I don`t really wish to get involved in the political argument, but I do want to look at the historical aspect. Also, Democrats at that time were known as "War Democrats". That would be a more right-wing belief currently. Honestly, looking at my argument, I can see that I contradict myself. I say that Lincoln was a Republican in name but could be classified today as a Democrat. But then I say that in modern times he would be ultraconservative. Hmmm, a tricky thing, history. But I stand by it that Lincoln was a liberal for his time and that Republicans were once left wing and Democrats right. Ah and Wallace was Dem. Governor and Independent Pre
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    outergeorge Male 18-29
    3 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 3:47 pm
    While not actually in possesion on atomic wepaon, Hitler was well on his way. About the only thing that prevented the Nazi`s from creating a succesful atomic bomb was a commando raid on a "heavy water" plant in Norway. Otherwise combined with the V2 rocket; Hitler would have had both nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them.
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    cheeseispunk Female 13-17
    380 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:40 pm
    That was funny.
  135. Profile photo of cheeseispunk
    cheeseispunk Female 13-17
    380 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 5:43 pm
    And btw I have no problem with Fox being a conservative news network. I don`t watch Fox, so it doesn`t really bother me. I do, however, have a problem with Fox billing itself as "fair and balanced" when it is in reality, extremely right-wing, not at all balanced or fair to both sides of the issues.
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    tacuvo Male 18-29
    314 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 11:16 pm
    Yeah, but NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ROSALIA=CUTE
  137. Profile photo of theBSR
    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 28, 2005 at 11:18 pm
    Spanish Inquisition that was funny...........again lol
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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 29, 2005 at 1:13 am
    CABLE NEWS RACE
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    VIEWERS

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    benjbenj Male 30-39
    916 posts
    October 30, 2005 at 5:53 am
    Thank you BSR for posting those viewer rates. The situation in the USA is worse than I thought. Many Americans *do* rely on this Fox rubbish. Holy Moses...
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    theBSR Male 30-39
    992 posts
    October 30, 2005 at 8:41 pm
    It`s called choose, not rely, but hey no prob
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    mediawhore91 Male 13-17
    134 posts
    October 30, 2005 at 9:13 pm
    okay, overmann (refering to first page) youre drating stupid the mustard gas and what not KILLED PEOPLE, hence weapon. they obviously cause/d MASS DESTRUCTION. moron
  142. Profile photo of Overmann
    Overmann Male 18-29
    2600 posts
    November 2, 2005 at 12:29 am
    *sigh* Again. I said they are chemical weapons and do not qualify as WMDs simply because they have not caused mass deaths in any single use. Be thorough before you`re confrontational, mediawhore91.

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