Katrina`s Aftermath

Submitted by: buddy 12 years ago in
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Slide show depicting devestation of the storm.
There are 147 comments:
Male 131
“I never thought I’d see this”
such a good neighbourhood
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9248064/
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Male 160
last post??? whatever.......incredible pictures..what a shame
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Male 407
Final word, these things happen, everywhere all the time. The best you can do is try to move on a rebuild your life the best you can. Living anywhere is like a roll of the dice, unfortunatly, the people of New Orleans lost this time.
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Male 459
Just to inform everyone, my post about dangers of san fransisco are in response to a sience deleted post by steffanie that there were 2 dangers lving in new orleans, 1 is that it is below sea level, 2 it is in danger of a hurricane. they deserved it. thats her thinking. I listed a few possible threats/dangers of living in sanfransisco. so yea, stick that in ur pipe and smoke it everyone who said they had it coming. may you be struck by lightning...hey, another reason not to live in san fransisco, or anywhere else for that matter! so if you live and go outside and get hit by lightning, you had it coming? being as you went outside after all?
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Male 916
Found some useful information on the net, supporting tim1977`s views:

"The Bush administration first overruled development regulations that were designed to protect the wetlands south of the city that for centuries worked to blunt the storm surge of these typhoons. Then it proceeded to cut the federal funding for dike repair and improvement on the levies that hold the Mississippi and Lake Pontchartrain out of the city, most of which is 10-20 feet below sea level. To make matters worse, the White House didn`t only divert dike funding to its Iraq War; it also diverted a third of Louisiana`s National Guard troops, as well as almost all their amphibious vehicles,
which would have proved invaluable at getting into the flooded area to rescue victims quickly, to the Iraqi desert."

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Male 49
The absoluletly incompetent federal response to this disaster only points to the Bush administration and its in adequacies. Bush is too focused on his war on terrorism to provide much needed resources within. What if a major city was the victim of a terrorist nuclear or dirty bomb. Would the Bush administration be so slow to respond that it took a week to get relief to the area. It is unbelievable that a nation or 300 million people, priveledged with vast wealth and capability has taken nearly a week to begin mustering the resources to help 100,000 people in dire need. The situation is disgracefull, embarassing, and quite frightful if we are to depend on these people in case of a disaster that requires immediate attention to mitigate the losses.
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Male 138
Every American that wasnt affected by Katrina should look at these pictures and see how good they have it, and they should be thankful that it wasnt them.
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Female 47
that is sad
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Male 119
Steffanie, a prime example of a "sheltered" human being. This time in the literal sense. Please, watch your step on the ineternet, you wouldnt want to bump into anyone that`s bad.

-Fermented

P.S. You can`t go anywhere to avoid danger, natural, or man-made.

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Male 119
Sorry for the off-topic post by the way, please see page 5 for an in depth look at pure ignorance.

Thanks,
-Fermented

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Male 119
Steffanie, a prime example of a "sheltered" human being. This time in the literal sense. Please, watch your step on the ineternet, you wouldnt want to bump into anyone that`s bad.

-Fermented

P.S. You can`t go anywhere to avoid danger, natural, or man-made.

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Male 49
One last comment. If my memory serves me right a nice middle class suburb in Colorado was the scene of the worst school yard massacre in U.S. history. The victims, teenagers. Stephanie from Colorado aged 13-17, please be prudent and add body armor to your back-to-school checklist. You never can be too prepared.

Sorry for being off topic, but the whole comment about not going to California for fear of being shot is so naive I could not resist.

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Male 616
The truth comes out... Steffanie, have you seen a psychotherapist lately? They just don`t make people like you anymore...

And yes, this thread is getting off topic.

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Male 49
Steffanie, I forgot to mention never ever ever ever consider intimate relations. There are far too many risks associated with such actions. So many STDs that it would take too long to list them. Not to mention the risk of being shot by your partner. Statistically, you are most likely to be shot by your lover.

LOOKOUT! I think an asteroid is heading your way!

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Male 91
steffanie. you are so dumb. at this point according to your prof. your only 13-17. you have no choice where you live. and pretty much you cut off most of the US from where you wanna live. even if you did have a say in where you live your perents prob wouldnt listen to your paranoid delusions. people are shot everywhere. people die everywhere. you dont need to live in a bubble. you need to live in your own contry where hunger, famine, violence, and disaster dont exist. there are people who live like that. but they tend to end up in straight-jackets in padded rooms and take alot of pills to help them speak normally. your an extreamist-idealist. and really this thread is getting off topic.
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Male 49
Steffanie, I think you should also live in a bubble. Just consider all the air born epidemics that could be looming. Think the black plague, SARS, west nile virus, malaria... You should be ashamed of yourself for living such a life of reckless abandon and seriously consider getting inside a bubble before its too late. Otherwise, all I gotta say is you had it coming [email protected]
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Male 407
I just checked, it could be hit by a tsunami, but those are rarely extremely damaging. One on the scale of the 2004 one happen once every hundred years. And the chances of a hit by a hurricane is very very low. Geographically, its not a common place for them. Whens the last time you heard of a hurricane hitting San Fransisco?
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Male 407
Im not really sure, but isn`t San Fransisco too far inland for a tsunami and to be really hit hard by a hurricane? Also hurricanes tend to start in a southern area and move North-east (cyclones and typhoons are different story). And Terrorist attacks and gangs are not natural disasters, i thought you might want to know that. That leaves earthquakes, yeah they have those.
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Male 459
oh, btw please plz plz! lock this thread!
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Male 459
oh, just like living in san fransisco right? a large city, with gangs (threat #1), earthquakes (threat #2), tsunamis (it could happen, threat #3), hurricanes (hey it could happen too! threat #4), and terrorist attacks (threat #5). Thats just to name a few. So people shouldnt live in san fransisco either, right? its even worse than living in new orleans according to you, so everyone should LEAVE san fransisco, it will be the "insert city here 49ers", move the golden gate bridge somewhere else, get the picture?
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Male 459
Habitat for Humanity
https://www.habitat.org/donation/generaldonation/default.aspx?media=habitat&lander=MP&sourcecode=10w39&tg=katrina&keyword=homepage_08302005
Respond With Love
http://www.respondwithlove.org/php/secti...

I appologize for the long line with habitat for humanity. Please keep all of the victims in your prayers, even if you believe that you should not help those in a time of dire need, whileist you live comforably in your homes, while they are without food, water, shelter, or anything else needed.

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Male 459
Ok, lock this if at all possible, no flames plz.
here are some links to donate money for the victims of hurricane katrina

World Vision: http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCC...

Red Cross
https://www2.redcross.org/donate/donation-form.asp

Convoy of Hope
http://www.convoyofhope.org/

Corporation for National and Community Service
http://www.nationalservice.gov/about/donations/index.asp

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Female 87
dude, you`re beating a dead horse arguing with these knuckleheads. a lot of the people here who haven`t been supportive about it don`t seem to have a grasp on reality and the value of life. if it was them or their family they would be singing a different tune (as much as they say they wouldn`t, is BS).

oh an "iscare", this would be a BRICK building so take that fairy tale and shove it...

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Male 616
Steffanie, then you should blame all the people in Hawaii if ever a storm like this hit it. Tell them to go somewhere else. Tell the hundreds of thousands of people in southern asia that they deserved to lose their love ones from the tsunami because they should have lived in russia. Tell all the people in New York city to move out becasue they are more liekly to be bombed than any other city in the U.S. Tell all the people in southern cal to move out because they`re stupid for living in a earthquake prone area. I guess everyone should live in Colorado...
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Male 101
will this thread EVER die???
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Male 201
Rammstein221, I wasn`t going to tell you that you didn`t know what your talking about...I thank your Dad for risking his life, however the war in Iraq would never have happened right away if we didn`t start going after terrorists in my opinion. But I don`t have beef with you, you points have been right on also. However I do think that silvernano is a douche bag and has no idea what is going on in this world.
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Male 256
@manorrd
You are almost correct, but They didnt see it coming!!
But like I say in the grand scale of things this is nothing.
Its just there isnt any cameramen in africa filming the groups of people dieing due to lack of food or water.
Its dog eat dog world, and no amount of "o its so sad" will ever change that nor help those who are stuck in this problem.
Blame the rich, because there can not be rich people with out having many more poor people.
Thats a fact.
I wouldnt wish this on anyone but I`m not sad about it, its just a pictures on my TV like most things these days.
Maybe I should feel sorry for those 125,000 in Iraq (in civs) that have been killed due to being in the wrong place at the wrong time?
I mean they all want to have a better Government and all, but I guess if you could ask those who are dead if they wuld lie down their life to have this happen it wouldnt be their first choice.
Because if it was then something would of been
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Male 179
It`s time that American soldiers returned home from Iraq and help their fellow patriots that are struggling in New Orleans and other affected areas.
IF THIS ISN`T DONE, THEY SHOULD PREPARE MORE!!!!!!
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Male 5
BTW, Rammstein, the death toll for 9/11 was right around 3,000 (plus, factor in civilian and military casualties from Afghanistan and Iraq if you`d like). I am in no way belittling or trivializing this loss of life. Life is life, no matter how many are lost. Whether we are for or against war makes no difference, if we don`t feel sadness at the loss of any human life, something inside us is missing. I just noticed earlier you said something like 135,000, which is way off, even factoring in deaths from the war(s).
As I said, not trivializing 9/11, which is the worst man-made attack/disaster ever in the US.

Death toll from this natural disaster remains to be seen.

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Male 5
If this is not the biggest natural disaster in US history, I`d like to know what is. Numerous cities across the Gulf coast destroyed (not just NO, but Gulfport, Biloxi, Mobile, etc. etc.), hundreds of thousands of people homeless, jobless, and countless numbers of people dead. I`m not trying to be a jerk, because if you find me a natural disaster on US soil with more devestaion, I`ll concede.

And I understand that the flooding is the cause of the problems, but you can`t separate the flooding from the hurricane. One caused the other, simple as that.I`ve lived in LA all my life, all through school, we`ve been taught that NO is a bowl, the levees can`t withstand more than a Cat 3 storm, etc. These things, plus pumps going out (the only way to get water out of the city) made NO the way it is now.

But, honestly, I don`t care too much about wheter the blame the hurrican or the flooding or whatever. People need help, and I`ll be there. Thanks to everyone else who has helped in any way.

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Male 407
This is not the biggest natural disaster in American history. The actual disaster was pretty big but its the flooding which is a separate issue thats so devastating. During and right after the hurricane there was almost no water at all in the city, but a levee broke after the fact which caused the flooding.
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Male 5
Having the mindset that we should just "forget about it" after hundreds of thousands of people lost everything they`ve ever owned, though, is just about the most insensitive thing I`ve ever heard. I think the media does such a great job of hyping ever minor event that we become numbed to the severity of situations like this. It doesn`t hit you, maybe, until you`ve had to care for an autistic woman displaced by the storm, or take elderly people to the bathroom, or offer your cell phone to a woman who hasn`t talked to her family in days, and see the look in their eyes and you can tell that they will never be the same.

I`ll stop now, because my words can`t even begin to convey how serious this is. I just hope some of you can have a change of heart. Part of it is maturity, and part of maturity comes from living outside of your own little box. I really hope all of those "forget it" people out there can take just a few minutes to try to grasp the significance of events

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Male 5
I have friends whose families have lost, literally, *everything*. No homes, no jobs, NOTHING. Yeah, they`ll just forget about it. It`s just the biggest natural disaster to ever hit the US, but we can just forget about it, because it doesn`t make me happy. Perfect attitude, way to come together for your fellow man.

I`m up at 4 am because I`ve been volunteering, as I`ve said, on my campus. People have DIED here, where I`ve gone to class everyday for the past 3 years.

No one will argure that NO is built in a pretty bad place, and that more preparation should have been made. Blame whomever you want. But not now. There`s too much to be done now. If pictures upset you, fine. Turn it off. In fact, never step foot outside your door again. Because, I promise you, unhappiness is everywhere. You can choose to ignore it, or you can suck it up and do your part to make a difference.

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Male 5
I created a user name just so I could respond to some of these comments. I am a student at LSU in Baton Rouge, about an hour away from NO. I`ve seen some of the most insensitive people ever on this site. Don`t tell me that we should just "forget about it." My campus has been turned into an emergency site, where people from NO in critical condition are bussed in to recieve care. I`ve been volunteering there for the past three days, since it`s open 24 hours, and I`ve seen things there that I never wanted to see.

Tell those seven children, the oldest one 5 years, old, who were found abandoned on the interstate in NO, that they should just "forget about" the hurricane. Tell the elderly, the nursing home residents who had absolutely no way to leave the city, that they should forget it. Tell it to the 30% of the population who had no transportation (and don`t even try to tell me that they could just walk out of that city).

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Male 49
To all the people saying New Orleans is such a stupid place to build a city I wish you would pick up a history book and also get a grasp on reality. The Mississippi is the largest waterway in North America. This makes New Orleans the key all commercial and military control of the interior U.S., especially prior to airplanes. Look everywhere in the world and you will see that there is a major city at the mouth of every major river. Militarily, controlling the mouth of a river navigable by warships is the equivalent of controlling an entire coastline. New Orleans played a major role in every war in American history because of its location. Its role on commerce was equally essential to American commerce.
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Female 152
BTW, I proudly live in Florida. Yes, we expect hurricanes, yes we have emergency plans and yes we know that we are living on the edge. But it`s so beautiful and it`s home to me and my entire family. My family has lived for generations in Florida and the islands below Florida and we`ll continue to live here because it is in our blood and in our nature. Houses may fall but family and history remain so long as we remember.
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Male 1,030
Thanks Fermented.. at least someone is listening...
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Female 152
Survival of the fitest is an animal instinct and should stay at an animal level. Survival of our history, cultures, brothers and sisters is what makes us human. It defines us. It distinguishes us from the rest of God`s creatures. Learning from our mistakes is what makes us intelligent beings. But most importantly our love and compassion are what we need to survive. And so losing any piece of ourselves as humans is devastating in any fashion. It should always pull at the heart of any intelligent, compassionate being. It cannot be forgotten lest we make the same mistakes. What happened in Lousiana, Alabama and Mississippi tears a piece of me just like the Tsunami, 9/11, Rhwanda, Chiapas, the Holocaust, Slavery, the Inquisition and many others do. Loving and caring for one another is not an option it is an obligation we take as the highest life form on this earth. Use it wisely and we will all be here for many years but resort to animal instincts and we will surely destroy one another.
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Female 152
Wow...I can just bet that these "you had it coming" by God or free will people will grow up to be the same [email protected] who would price guage and insurance fraud people.

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Female 42
i love how ignorant bastids on here comment "oh well it`s your own fault for living in a diaster prone area" not everyone is fortunate enough to afford to live elsewhere. or have a means or can afford to leave when something like this happens. most people are born into and die in poverty.
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Male 119
Cont. Cont.

Perfectly_Me, you must not be so ignorant and try to understand what people there must have felt. Expose yourself to the reality of the world, and do something to help it.

As for Silvernano`s quote:

"So sad,but I think GOD is punishing Americans for what they did and are still doing in Iraq. It`s their turn to feel the pain that many Iraqis feel everyday.
God bless us all."

Wow. Just wow. I have but to see a more naiive, disgraceful post.

I am stricken with grief for all affected by the Hurricane. I hope more help comes swiftly and in numbers. I am also saddened by how ignorant people can be.

-Fermented

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Male 119
Now I will respond to several of "Perfectly_me" and "Silvernano"`s comments:

"Perfectly_Me"

"Katrina passed and went bye-bye.
Don`t remind people about it all over."
"Katryna is gone, and the images are horrible and all, but why post the pictures? It would be best to forget about it, and if people want to donate or whatever, then they can go ahead and do so.
Reminding everyone about that makes many people not only annoyed, but depressed.
Don`t make people depressed by posting this. What happened with katryna happened, and they`ll get help. If the people in new orleans were smart, they were insured for anything and everything special they owned.
New orleans weren`t prepared for katryna, which they should have been. They should have told the people to stay inside, they should have had some safe place for people to go to, etc."

Perfectly_Me, might I reiterate that Hurricane KATRINA will have a LASTING, if not, PERM

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Male 119

PERMANENT effect on the New Orleans area.

Also, the situations in locations around Louisiana are comparable to that of 3rd world countries, if not worse. As supplies become limited, all hell breaks loose. People die in SHELTERS due to sweltering heat, sickness, and lack of medicational supplies.

Perfectly_Me, you also bring up the point of insurance. Though you may not know this, INSURANCE COSTS MONEY. People in poverty cannot afford to buy insurance, and also have a hard time getting to shelters and supplies. This brings me to my next point.

11.5% of New Orlean`s Population is over 65, according to the 2000 US Census. Think of how hard it is for that elderly population to seek shelters, even if they DO leave, it would be hard for them to get the medication they need to live healthily for that time.

The many people in New Orleans that did not leave, as misguided as they were, are now in severe need of help. Now is not the time to ignore the problems, but to help.


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Male 119
Cont. Cont.

Perfectly_Me, you must not be so ignorant and try to understand what people there must have felt. Expose yourself to the reality of the world, and do something to help it.

As for Silvernano`s quote:

"So sad,but I think GOD is punishing Americans for what they did and are still doing in Iraq. It`s their turn to feel the pain that many Iraqis feel everyday.
God bless us all."

Wow. Just wow. I have but to see a more naiive, disgraceful post.

I am stricken with grief for all affected by the Hurricane. I hope more help comes swiftly and in numbers. I am also saddened by how ignorant people can be.

-Fermented

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Male 119

PERMANENT effect on the New Orleans area.

Also, the situations in locations around Louisiana are comparable to that of 3rd world countries, if not worse. As supplies become limited, all hell breaks loose. People die in SHELTERS due to sweltering heat, sickness, and lack of medicational supplies.

Perfectly_Me, you also bring up the point of insurance. Though you may not know this, INSURANCE COSTS MONEY. People in poverty cannot afford to buy insurance, and also have a hard time getting to shelters and supplies. This brings me to my next point.

11.5% of New Orlean`s Population is over 65, according to the 2000 US Census. Think of how hard it is for that elderly population to seek shelters, even if they DO leave, it would be hard for them to get the medication they need to live healthily for that time.

The many people in New Orleans that did not leave, as misguided as they were, are now in severe need of help. Now is not the time to ignore the problems, but to help.


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Male 194
I think this is sad but not too sad. These people were asking for it when they lived there in the first place. The thing im trying to get to is alot of people in new orleans were rich and snobbish so in a way the deserved it. What im wondering is maybe new orleans will become the next alantis? :-?
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Female 28
i really don`t understand what all you all are so upset about...these are just humans, that by the grace of god, were born in poverty, had no other place to live, even if they wanted to. the majority of these people did not have gas money to put in their cars to leave, when they were asked to.it`s not like these people choose to get hit by hurricans and tornadoes, it`s not thier fault the government chose to not repair the levee 6 weeks ago as told to, becuase of our budget, what about budget now? we should all sit down a pray and be thankful that we are not in that situation and we have homes to live in and ways to talk to our loved ones. MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERYONE OF THEM WHO ARE SUFFERING IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!
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Male 119
Now I will respond to several of "Perfectly_me" and "Silvernano"`s comments:

"Perfectly_Me"

"Katrina passed and went bye-bye.
Don`t remind people about it all over."
"Katryna is gone, and the images are horrible and all, but why post the pictures? It would be best to forget about it, and if people want to donate or whatever, then they can go ahead and do so.
Reminding everyone about that makes many people not only annoyed, but depressed.
Don`t make people depressed by posting this. What happened with katryna happened, and they`ll get help. If the people in new orleans were smart, they were insured for anything and everything special they owned.
New orleans weren`t prepared for katryna, which they should have been. They should have told the people to stay inside, they should have had some safe place for people to go to, etc."

Perfectly_Me, might I reiterate that Hurricane KATRINA will have a LASTING, if not, PERM

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Male 119
OK, I agree with and sincerely thank those who follow:

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The following people are cruel/naiive as shown by their lack of sympathy and knowledge:

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...and countless more.


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Male 1,030
For any of you "deep-down-I`m-an-a$$hole" people, just think for a second.... what IF... this was you.. or one of your loved ones.. NO ONE!!! has the right to second guess the people, the place, the nature of the incident.
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Male 616
Steffanie, it just shows how little you know, and how much more you need to learn. How likely would your whole family move to another state because where you live now is more likely to be hit hard by a natural disaster that happens once every generation (if that)? Then ask yourself, how likely would your family move when you have no car, no money to move your belongings, and can`t afford the housing? There`s a reason why many poor people live in New Orleans. It`s extremely cheap to live there and for many, there`s no place else they can afford. So, call them "dumb" if you`d like. I think it would be better if you offered support instead of finger pointing. You never know, something bad could happen to you, your home, or your family, and I`m willing to bet the last you want to hear someone else say is, "she`s just dumb for living this way" or "she had it coming to her." Didn`t anyone lecture you this when you were 6?
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Male 2,372
So jsatan - by your admission, I guess you didn`t really give a toss about the tsunami victims as well.....sad
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Female 172
Wow.
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Female 36
We have to remember other places were affected by this too, not just NOLA....
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Male 3
Those are really incredible. I feel so awful for those people. :(
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Male 407
9/11 was nothing compared to this. Think about that. First think about all the people who died from the actual event i think it was like 135 thousand. Then think about all the people who died in the war that resulted, on both sides. All the builings destroyed (2 here and countless there) and all of the people who lived in fear every day of it happening again, without warning. This event may give us American insight into what a majority of the world lives like EVERY SINGLE DAY. You say its a tragedy, but in the Middle East or Africa, that`s life. It`s merely the fact that were used to being richer than 10 percent of the worlds population so every time something like this happens, we poo our pants.
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Female 1
Hi, This is my first post here. After reading some of the posts on Katrina, I am disgusted with some of the comments by people. First off, how do you expect people to just pack up and move to a different town or state? Do you have the money to pay for their expenses? Did you have a choice as a child where you were raised? Have u no compassion? Are you just that heartless to make such assumptions and careless remarks. Think about if you were them and had no choice and were trying to cope with this horrible life changing disaster. You do realize that all of the U.S. is going to suffer from it. Not all emotionally, but financially. Nature is not controlable by humans. Think of a tornado, when its coming down your street, would you want people from all over the country to say, Hey what an idiot, he should have lived somewhere else. Those pictures really hit me emotionally. I could not even imagine going through such a devistation as those people did. My heart and prayers are with them.
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Male 701
This is just...sad. I mean right after the tunami in Aisa, this. who knows whats gunna happen next...i hope nothing worse but you know its natures design we`ll just have to live with it
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Male 1,866
911 all over again? you`re a moron.
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Male 256
I cant say its their own fault, but I`m sorry to say but I couldnt care less about it.
it happens. about 1 billion people die every year from poverty, so a few thousand people isnt anything to worry about in the grand scale of things.
But I do wish them luck.
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Male 103
9/11 is absolutely nothing compared to this.
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Female 1,603
It`s sad. I wonder what all those people are going to do now that they have nothing. It sucks for everyone else too because gas prices are through the roof right now.
I agree with LordJonathan though. It was a risk they took when they decided to start a life below sea level. I for one would never live below sea level or somewhere by the ocean. I live in the mountains way above sea level.
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Female 14
That is like the saddest slide show ive ever seen. Ill never look at powerpoint the same again. My school is donating like 7,000 $ to Red cross to help. I hate how ppl take advantage of things like this. like all the stealing o the cars. It sux. :(
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Male 49
The idiots who say "they had it coming" are just bigots. They are the same type of people whose response to famine in Africa goes something like, "its there own fault, they should be smart enough to just stop having babies." It is a classic example of conservative right-wing ideology being applied by ignorant simpleminded buffoons, lacking the intellectual capacity to understand people from a different vantage point.

I am sure that choosing to drive in a car is far more dangerous than chosing to live in New Orleans. It would be ironic if they died in a car accident so all the people of New Orleans can say "you had it coming."

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Male 81
[quote]On 9/1/2005 8:54:05 PM tim1977 wrote: T It is a classic example of conservative right-wing ideology [/quote]

now come on, tim, im a liberal and I seriously think all the poor people should stop having kids!

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Male 1,149
Anyone could have gotten out, there was plenty of ways. Don`t pull the poverty card, thats bullshi*t.
God, had nothing to do with this, when hurricanes form, hurricanes form. When hurricanes hit citys they cause damnage. Simple enough?
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Male 81
that`s sad! I remember falling in love with the city when i went there for vacation in 2001. It was the most beautiful town i had seen. It was sad to remember what it looked like looking at the pictures.
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Male 459
very well said yushi, i couldnt think of a way to just quite say it, and i believe you hit the nail on the head.
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Female 412
For those who say they had it coming because of the location ....There is not a place on earth that is free of any type of disasters. Tornados, earthquakes, floods, you can`t escape them all!
This is a very sad tragedy, and you won`t be saying you deserved it if YOU were one of the victims. If you are going to make hurtful comments, please try to restrain yourself.
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Male 459
Ok, I would like to please ask people to read my posts, they are actualy quite short, but they just seem to be alot. take a little time, flame me if you like, spamming to increase post count, whatever, but please read them. i hope it will give you some insight into what is oging on, and hopefuly will inspire you to donate, if you donot, that is your decision, and i will not critisize you for it, especialy if you cannot afford to help them. for those of you that do, i appluad you, however, just take a little time and please read them. thanyou and god bless.
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Male 49
I think we should blame the French for founding a city in a hole... Just kidding. But seriously I wonder how Bobby Boucher has endured. The destruction throughout Louisiana, not to mention all the contaminated H20, must be overwhelming.
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Female 275
^^Interesting point there, manorrd.

New Orleans is pretty old. Yeah, the French built it there, but back then it wasn`t so low. Some scientist on Fox News said the place is sinking.

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Male 2,372
People. It`s obvious that you`re going to get people on these types of forums that say stuff just to get a rise out of people.

perfectly_me for example, is giggling whenever someone replies to her flame bait. Besides, if she really does mean stuff like "best just to forget about it," then she`s just reflecting her imaturity, and all the more reason to ignore it.

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Male 91
perfectly_me do us all a favor. you go down to new orleans where people are still suffering. where people are still dying. and you tell them to forget about it. we`ll see if you survive the day. rckjmesbjtch, i applaud you. you have somthing to say and you say it. this tragedy is so horrible that i dont think people will forget about it. but we need to make it more unforgetable. we need to make this the one where people actually open their houses to people so that they can live. we need to help these people. i think this disaster isnt a punishment for what we`re doing in iraq. its showing the people who dont believe we should be there, what the people in iraq are going through. famine, drought, and sup standard, WAY substandard living conditions. What the people in new orleans are going through IS NOT their fault. most of these people cannot afford to just move. and so they continue to live there even though tragedy is immenant. its a real tragedy.
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Male 459
People saying martial law in some places might be too much. HA! do you have any idea what is going on? the incredibly widespread looting? killing? fights? riots? it is a madhouse there. Anybody that can help, donate a little money, whatever you can, a little goes a long ways. I would like to end my rant/informative post with just one thing: have a heart and soul. this has nothing to do with punishment. there is no God that cruel.
the war in iraq has nothing to do with this, and we cant forget it, just like 911 or world war II, how about the holocost? it was bad, so lets just forget it! sure the germans would love that nothing against them, slavery in the us was not something to be proud of either all nations have parts of history that arent their greatest moment
God bless everyone. Please take a moment of silence to remember those who are suffering and dead and please pray to your god(s) for those that are in need. Thankyou all.
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Male 459
Help out however we can, it will take at LEAST 4 months experts predict for all of the water to even receed for the most part, it will still be unlivable, with the area a swamp/marsh. people are sick and dying. look at the picture of the police officer (take a moment and thank every one of them, the police/hospital helocopters and boats are being shot at, yes SHOT at by firearms.) looking for gas to take out of a car to use for a generator for a hospital. people are dying, with thousands dead. get a clue people. id like to buy a vow....no HALF A FÜCKING BRAIN! no mardi gras, i have a friend who participates in it every year sience she was 4 and, will not be able to attend this year. or next year, possibly never again. new orleans will never be the same. important historical landmarks have been ruined and destroyed forever. think about the museums, places where bbking and the like played. important historical places. ctd again.
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Male 459
silvernano, suicideking - stick with suicideking`s name and killyourselves. please. that is foolish.

perfectly_me - people were looting stores for FOOD got it FÜCKING FOOD! THEY HAVE NOTHING TO EAT! People lined up for hours to get WATER HEAR THAT WATER!!!! YOU CAN LAST 3 DAYS WITHOUT WATER! they are also living in their own feces...that SH¡T DUMBASS! GET WITH THE PROGRAM, FORGETABOUT IT? OMFG THEY NEED ALL OF THE HELP THEY CAN GET! WHY DONT YOU LOOSE ABSOLUTELY (add emphasis beyond caps here plz ie. underline, bold, italics, all of the above) EVERYTHING ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING (end emphasis, thankyou) YOU OWN! wait, you are a minor still, you live with YOUR PARENTS THEY PAY FOR EVERYTHING FOR YOU! omfg, so ignorant.

lordjonathan - wow. just move. well, i can tell we can all get a job whenever we want, leave our hometown we have lived in all of our lives, abandon all of our friends and loved ones, all with next to no money.

people amaze me. we need to all do our part and

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Male 155
I live in Miami and Katrina passed right through us with minor damages. I almost feel guilty for us here in Miami complaining about losing power or seeing a few trees fall down. What they suffered over there was far more than we`ve ever had here. Even Andrew doesn`t match up to Katrina.
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Male 914
Poor people, been watching some of the footage on fox news and they say that some of the european countries are offering aid and even gasoline (which is over 3 bucks a gallon here now). And Flame00091 I agree totally with the second paragraph you typed
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Female 314
It IS best to forget about it.
People are going to forget about it, and that would be best.
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Male 407
Oh yeah, and my Dad is in the Military and up untill recently frequently went over to the Middle east so Don`t say any thing about it not being relevant to me.
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Male 407
To cll214, the war in Iraq has nothing to with the world trade center attack, that was the war in Afghanistan. This war is about Saddam Hussien and his wmd`s And I think that comparing this with the tsunami is in extremly poor taste, this hurricane caused nowhere near as many deaths/ damages.
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Male 256
Still should read three little pigs.
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Male 321
If ya look at the news over here you`d be reminded of a zombies movie with the people on the roofs painting in red `help us` n stuff...
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Female 157
despite all of these opinions posted, i think the only thing we can all say, is that the events that have occurred were terrible. Full stop.
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Male 616
These posts remind me of that American radio jockey, who said God used the tsunami to punish all those Asians because a lot them were Muslim and against the U.S.

"It is easier to point a finger, than to offer a helping hand."

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Female 87
These pictures are so sad... I know someone who lived/s in/around New Orleans and I don`t know whats happened to him... All I can say is I hope everything gets better soon for them.

And the whole "God" thing, WHERE IS YOUR SOUL? (Though I don`t believe in "God" I would never say people were being punished. What could someone do so wrong to lose EVERYTHING they had?)

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Male 101
MY heart is here (points to my chest) :)
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Female 11
Hey Jonathan...
Do some homework b/f u start talking nonsense! 1/3 of the population in New Orleans lived below the poverty level. I don`t think that they had the means to get out of a dangerous situation (i.e. living in a bowl!)
It amazes me how unforgivable and judgemental people can be when tragedy hits. Where is your heart?
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Female 553
"perfectly-me": There are plenty of reasons to `remind` people of what happened. If you want to live in your little perfect world, go ahead. But remember, it`s all imaginary. The real world is full of devastation, and it can be depressing. But what does ignoring it do to help?
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Male 414
^^what she said
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Female 87
the amount of insensitivity here is heartbreaking.
"perfectly_me" your argument is weak. you say that the hurricane victims should have been better informed, if you would have done your homework you would learn that people were fleeing days before Katrina struck. Yes, some people weren`t informed well enough but this isn`t a small neighborhood we`re talking, it`s hundreds of thousands of people. And those who weren`t injured or dead are still victims.
And yes, staying indoors would have been an EXCELLENT idea. Do you work for MENSA? (eyeroll).
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Male 101
you pay your respect by remembering the ones who was lost in the storm....
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Male 101
yah, if your dad dies, or your house is destryoyed, do you just forget about it???
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Female 552
no matter how you look at it who is right and who is wrong nobody deserves this kind of pain. people are reminded of this because maybe just maybe it could turn a person around and make them realize how lucky they have it. they`re innocent babies children elder people who didnt "ask for it" people always bring god into this only when bad things happen why is that? god gave us free will to make our own choices and some of these people had no choice but to stay bc they couldnt afford to leave. bottom line noone deserves, this my greatest enemy doesnt deserve this.we all live in this hell hole together stop fighting over whos country is the damn best cause in the end it doesn`t even matter.
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Male 1,586
Yeah, the God thing is just a tool for people to justify their twisted beliefs. "I hate homosexuals, so when something bad happens to one, it`s PROOF that God hates them, too. I`m right in my beliefs."
Gah.
And perfectly_me - are you serious? It`s best to just forget about it? Remind me to tell you that when something awful happens to you. "What? Your parents were killed in a car accident? Well, it`s over now, so just go ahead and forget about it."
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Male 101
These Pictures bring me soo much greef, we need to pray for these people...
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Female 1,403
First off the whole god thing is retarded, because I always hears, he loves us all, but then someone says god is punishing you! And its like, "What?!" And I do get depressed looking at those pictures but it`s easier to sympathize(sp)when I see what happen to them, it`s better to do that than entirely shelter yourself from the whole world.
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Female 314
Katryna is gone, and the images are horrible and all, but why post the pictures? It would be best to forget about it, and if people want to donate or whatever, then they can go ahead and do so.

Reminding everyone about that makes many people not only annoyed, but depressed.

Don`t make people depressed by posting this. What happened with katryna happened, and they`ll get help. If the people in new orleans were smart, they were insured for anything and everything special they owned.

New orleans weren`t prepared for katryna, which they should have been. They should have told the people to stay inside, they should have had some safe place for people to go to, etc.

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Male 101
yah 4-6 weeks for water to receed.... :(
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Male 122
[quote]On 9/1/2005 10:49:34 AM silvernano wrote: So sad,but I think GOD is punishing Americans for what they did and are still doing in Iraq. It`s their turn to feel the pain that many Iraqis feel everyday. God bless us all.[/quote]

Please tell me you were being sarcastic.

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Male 4
Even as a European, I can still sympathise with the Americans having viewed these sobering images. I wish New Orleans better days ahead.
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Female 5
This just shows how much we can`t control nature. It`s horrible how so many people will have to start rebuilding their lives and they have nothing left. I read from the paper today that it might take four months before they get all the water away from the streets and before people can go back to what is left of the city. It`s just so horrible.
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Female 790
Its easy to chalk terrible incidents up to punishment by God. I think it makes it easier for people to deal with. These things dont make sense, so in order to get some sense out of it, people look for things to blame it on. Why not someone big and all-powerful? I think it makes them feel less small and alone in the universe. Even if the Big Guy is punishing us, it makes us feel better to think that we are not totally down here at the mercy of the elements. "Maybe if we are GOOD, these things will stop", they think.
If thats what you need to help you get through tragedies, then ok. But, please dont say that those people deserved it. No one deserves to die a terrible death, God is not sitting up there waiting to smite us for everything we do.
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Male 1,586
Thanks, benjbenj - took the words right out of my mouth.
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Male 101
soo much loss of life
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Male 101
This is terriable
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Male 916
Silvernano, your comment is sickening. People in Niger now starve to death in great numbers. Is that because GOD wants to punish them too? Was the tsunami in South East Asia also a punishment inflicted by God? And all those devastating earthquakes every year too?
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Male 201
Its funny how the two people that said about the war were silvernano from Africa and suicideking from europe, neither from the USA. I guarantee if their parents, son, daughter, aunt, uncle, whatever...etc., etc. died in the trade towers, they would have a different attitude.
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Male 201
you know I read these posts all the time and there is some pretty smart people on here, but then you get some idiots that I think should just be put out of their misery for making stupid comments. Live somewhere else!!?? yeah lets all move to like Pennsylvania where nothing ever happens and let the rest of the country just waste away. People where they can, or where they were raised. Can`t all live in the same place [email protected] And then you get someone like silvernano who somehow turns a hurricane into something to do with the war in Iraq..jesus, I am so sick of that crap, If you don`t believe in the war, fine, I don`t believe in all of it either, but that`s life. Pick up a book and read it for a change, Most Iraqs are happy we are there, we are giving them a chance at a real government, however I think the USA needs to let them establish their own and not push ours on them. Yes civilians have died in the war, its a war, people die...sucks but true.
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Male 1,083
I was just curious did the people of new orleans ever consider moving the city a bit or maybe puting thier city a bit higher, because this exact same thing happened in the 60`s
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Male 2,372
^^Sorry, Silvernano. Someone already beat you to the "Godly Vengance" punch.

http://www.godhatesfags.com/featured/200...

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Male 24
i`ll second that silver
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Male 179
So sad,but I think GOD is punishing Americans for what they did and are still doing in Iraq. It`s their turn to feel the pain that many Iraqis feel everyday.
God bless us all.
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Female 113
I agree with you Sammyfrank
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Female 113
IT HAS MY NAME!!!!!!! only it has an i and not a y because my parents wanted something different.
If you want to help and donate cash go to www.redcross.org
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Male 616
This is sad, but it puts into perspective the 2004 Tsunami since over 100,000 people died there (so far I`ve heard deaths possibly in the thousands for Katrina).
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Male 1,030
perfectly_me.. you disgust me with your comment. These people will not see "normal" life again for months or yesrs. It`s not over for them.
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Male 1,030
It`s incredibly sad.. and you people who talk about "they asked for it.." Do you know that the majority of people in New Orleans are below the poverty line?!?!? It`s not like that had a choice! You should be ashamed of yourselves!
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Female 790
Exactly. The storm is over, but the mess and devastation are still there. Its not glorifying the tradgedy in any way. Its simply showing the rest of us what happened.
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Female 316
They need to remind people. Theyre still there. its not "bye bye" till everyone is safe. People are still trapped and dying, even in hospitals.
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Female 314
Katrina passed and went bye-bye.

Don`t remind people about it all over.

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Female 809
I have the feeling that the company my husband works for will be down there in a few months rebuilding some of these places. It`s all so very sad.
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Female 12
This is horrible...it feels like 911 all over again.
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Male 820
such a tragedy :-(
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Male 256
I take it no one ever read "The three little pigs" over there?
Wood is not strong!!!!
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Female 830
It`s like saying i dont wanna live in new york because there might be a terrorist attack or i don`t wanna live in london cos there might be a terrorist attack etc.
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Female 830
I`m sure alot of them didn`t have the money to move out of new orleans so they`ve had to live there. I mean there can`t be a whole empty state can there?
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Male 731
To bad. :-(
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Male 2,216
That poor guy on Pic 14!! Only able to drink DIET Pepsi *Cries*
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Male 916
LordJonathan, things are not that easy. Many people were born in New Orleans, grew up in New Orleans, made friends in New Orleans, found the love of their lives in New Orleans etc. Can you expect those people to leave their homes and find a new place to live just like that?

There will always be a good reason to be somewhere else when something terrible happens. No doubt the city you live in is not a safe place either all the time. Why don`t you tell us what your dwelling place is? I bet many US citizens will be able to provide you a detailed list of all possible threats that are patiently waiting to take you by surprise.

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Male 118
HA what a fool/fall.
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Female 321
I kno this REALLY isnt a laughin matter BUT picture 20 wud B funny if it wasnt as terrible as it has been because the old lady on the back row of `beds` has fallen outta her bed, maybe i have a sick sense of humor :-?
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Male 2,372
You`re absolutly right, Jonathan. Screw all those whiney earthquake livin`, tornado alley squatin`, hurricane temptin`, famine lovin` folk.

Like my daddy sez, "If you can`t stand the heat, stay outta the kitchen." It`s their own fault!

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Female 144
:-( forgot his nose
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Female 144
that is sad :(
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Male 1,348
Yes manorrd, but thats the risk they take. Its their own fault for drinking to much or eating to much. If you don`t want the chance of your house to be blown down then why live in tornado alley? See what I mean.

Just today I was talking to this woman and she said she moved here from florida because she didn`t want to risk the hurricanes.

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Female 588
The pictures arent` really for entertainment purposes, I don`t know anyone who would point and laugh. I think they are a very strong informative tool. For example, living in a city above sea level (yeah, I think it`s stupid to build a city there, but nothing can be done about it now), I didn`t know that a city could look like a lake.
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Male 118
Ok, maybe enjoy was the wrong word, but you know what I mean.
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Male 2,372
I`m not sure people "enjoy" looking at pictures of tragedies. Most of us lead such ordinary and mundane lives that the images of such horrors tend to captivate and enthrall us.

I for one, having seen this slide show have just decided to donate $500 to the red cross. That`s all I can really afford right now, but it seems like a grotesquely small amount in light of the suffering and devistation.

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Male 118
Why do people enjoy looking at pictures of tradgedies? I mean I`m the same, but how come when you here about a disaster like the London bombings for example, you switch the TV on and sit there for hours?
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Male 2,372
Yeah, you`re absolutly right Jonathan.

They`re just like people who`ve eaten too much caviar and then complain of hearburn. Or like people who`ve drunk too much champagne then complain of their hangover. Actually, it`s like people who`ve chosen to go on a world cruise then cry when they get seasick.

Those under-privelaged people who`ve been born and raised in New Orleans were really just ASKING for it when you get right down to it.

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Male 1,348
This is very very bad BUT They are the ones who choose to live under sea level. Its like the person who builds a house on the beach and cries when it gets washed away.
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Male 2,519
terrible, really terrible outcome.
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Female 2,244
Very sad pictures.
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Female 790
Wow. There are some really incredible pictures there!
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Male 10,115
Link: Katrina`s Aftermath [Rate Link] - Slide show depicting devestation of the storm.
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