Katrina: What Happened When

Submitted by: Mazrim2001 12 years ago in
http://www.factcheck.org/article348.html

A (disturbing) timeline of the events surrounding Katrina and the government"s response (or lack thereof!)
There are 69 comments:
Male 31
I pray for more natural disasters to hit America for 3 reasons. 1st...It humbles people. 2nd...Brings this nation together. 3rd...Liberals have no clue how to surivive on their own without federal aid and government handouts.
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Male 992
First off its ban....nevermind....secondly I went after you on 3 major things, if you want to concentrate on the spelling you go right on ahead. Id like to know how Bush was supposed to stop a category 5 hurricane. If you could answer that you would be the brightest person in the world
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Male 994
i knwo what pearl harbor is i might be only 16 but i read it in my history textbook it was the day when japan attacked america`s pearl harbor in hawaii before signing a declaration of war. yeah so i don`t know how to spell bannanaa but now you start to criticize my spelling thats just weak
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Male 201
Sometimes you need to break the law.
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Male 201
something, he should have just did it, he`s the fu*cking President of the USA, help them, shouldn`t have to be asked.
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Male 201
Well, BSR, that`s the problem with kids now days, they don`t care about history, they just follow the trend that`s going on in the world..if its cool to hate the President than that`s what they do..they don`t listen. I am not trying to offend people, but its the truth, they catch bits and pieces of the news and then go spouting off about what is wrong. Half the young kids now-a-days don`t even know what Pearl Harbor is. I hate politics, they are all shady characters, but Bush is getting screwed in this Katrina deal. The State and local govenerment have to call in help to Bush or he can`t do anything, its the freaking law. Hell, they didn`t even call a State of Emergency until is was too late. Its their own faults and it sucks the people had to die. Most people they interviewed down there even said they had the opportunity to leave and didn`t because THE STATE didn`t make it sound severe enough. However this is where America is weird, Bush shouldn`t have waited for them to do
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Male 992
What the F is a BANNA? Have you ever heard of Pearl Harbor? Actually you said the world`s worst natural DISATER???? Learn some history from other places besides Farenheit 9/11 and how to form a coherent sentence before you try to debate someone Genius
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Female 46
Read your own posts..."world`s worst natural disater that hit america" If you only meant America, don`t stick the word "world" in there.
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Male 994
i said it was the worst storm to hit AMERICA not to hit the world moron read my posts more carefully next time
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Female 338
Whine, whine, whine. Get over it, Bushies. The response took too long, and it wasn`t enough. Facts are facts. No, our Prez didn`t "cause" the hurricane, but much more could have been done about it. Deal.
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Female 588
actually, call me ignorant, but until yesterday, toneman, i thought new orleans was IN mississippi. i think maybe i didnt` listen too well to the news.
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Female 588
osprey - you would have to be paying around $4 a gallon to be paying as much as we are a litre... with conversions. i`m not stupid.
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Female 359
^I agree, too many people getting bent out of shape...
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Male 1,586
This website isn`t fun anymore.
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Female 46
Katrina`s the WORLD`S worst natural disaster? Anyone remember a tsunami under a year ago?

And Presidents can stop hurricanes now? Great, one less thing to worry about.

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Male 337
sulu everyone knew Osama was going to attack including Clinton. Terrorists will attack again, theres nothing any mortal human can do.
About preventing a hurricane, I`ll let you think about that for a bit.
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Male 994
Wow i`ve been reaading all of those posts and now i relize that BSR or whatever is really unfair he accuses liberals of everything bad while he himself trys to protect president banna brain.

Here`s a thought have you every relized that the worst attack on the united states since the war of 1812 and the world`s worst natural disater that hit america happened during bush`s reign and he could have possbily stopped both. He got reports way back before 9/11 that osama was going to attack where is he now? and katrina our storm predictors already saw that it was coming

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Female 46
I`ll also point you folks to a recent article by Ben Stein (of Bueller...Bueller fame).
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Female 46
I`ll agree that there have been failures at every level of the government in dealing with this...getting a little sick of hearing "Bush`s budget cuts didn`t let them upgrade the levees, which led to this whole disaster" argument though. Upgrading the levees to handle a category 4 or 5 storm would have had to begin in the mid-1990s to be ready for Katrina`s hit. Long before Dubya was even in the running. I quote a recent TIME article: "The Corps has been pushing for years for Category 5 protection...Preventive work, however, would have had to start in the 1990s. That`s how long the improvements would have taken." Yes, he cut funds to upgrade the levees, but in the 30 years they`ve known this disaster was a possibility, NO administration has been willing to fund the project fully.
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Male 527
strangergoat, thank you so much for pointing out the obvious! I`ll tell you exactly who has the time to count the words that Bush uses in every speach, it`s the same liberal bastards that refuse to place the blame of the disaster on the Gulf Coast in the correct lap...the local and state governent! I have a question for you. I`m sure that you have seen the devistation and death in New Orleans compared to that in Miss. Why is Miss. not in the news?! There are casinos in Hwy 90 that were once in the freagin` Gulf! People have died there as well! It is also notable that just days after the hurricane, it is difficult to get help into an area where people are getting sniper fire while trying to help. That really says a lot about the population of NO, doesn`t it?!
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Male 527
Did someone say, "Yes, clearly you know the "real" timeline, and a highly reputable non-partisan institution has got it all wrong. B-|"? You have to be kidding. This is one of the most leftward leaning sources in the country. Know your sources, Bonehead!
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Male 45
Man, BSR - I like to hear both sides of any issue, but you`re pretty out there. Blanco, Nagin, and Bush have all acknowledged failures at the local, state, and federal levels. Nagin and Blanco clearly failed to evacuate and prepare correctly, as is evidenced in that now infamous shot of the parking lot full of underwater busses. I don`t see how you can argue that FEMA didn`t completely blow it afterwards, though, and it seems pretty clear that the appointment of Brown, with no emergency management experience, was a mistake on Bush`s part (and a nice example of cronyism). I don`t buy the "Bush doesn`t care" crap, but you have to understand that our president is just a man - he`s fallable like everybody else, and his choice in putting a lawyer with no actual experience in charge of FEMA, the agency that supposedly will save us when we get bombed by terrorists, is a failure of judgment.
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Male 992
—Evan Thomas, "How Bush Blew It," Newsweek , 19 September 2005.
They are quoting a very Biased Even Thomas`s op-ed piece, but again this is non-partisan
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Male 992
test if you buy this crap being non-partisan!
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Male 992
12.Bush leaves the White House to tour the hurricane area. He says, "A lot of people are working hard to help those who have been affected, and I want to thank the people for their efforts. The results are not acceptable ." Bush, arriving in Alabama to tour the disaster area, says of the FEMA director at a live news conference: "Brownie, you`re doing a heck of a job. (Had to bunch those 2 together, for obvious reasons)
13.Bush takes responsibility for the federal government’s failures while speaking at a press conference with Iraqi President Talabani (obviously what this was building up to, non-partisan my ass. Where did Nagin accept anything on this timeline. Where was Blancos admissions? The whole thing shows Nagin and Blanco trying to do everything, which is BS. Everytime it says someone tried to help them but they refused or were slow to act there is a denial from a spokesperson on their end. Bush is portrayed as doin everything but care. Take that gullible
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Male 992
9.Bush, back at the White House, holds a cabinet meeting on Katrina and speaks for nine minutes in the Rose Garden to outline federal relief efforts. He says FEMA has moved 25 search and rescue teams into the area. As for those stranded at the Superdome, "Buses are on the way to take those people from New Orleans to Houston," the President says (glad he is back in Washington!)
10.Bush says "I don`t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees." (But he cut the Federal money too it!)
11.Nagin delivers a rambling diatribe in an interview with local radio station WWL-AM, blaming Bush and Blanco for doing too little (no he does not pass the buck!)
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Female 2,244
It`s nice to see a timeline, good site. I`m still amazed that this ridiculous event happened in America.
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Male 992
6.In San Diego, California, Bush delivers a 31-minute speech marking the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II. Of Katrina, he says, "we`re beginning to move in the help that people need." (screw those 400,000 american boys that gave up their lives for this country)
7.Immediately after the speech, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan tells reporters that Bush will return to Crawford, then cut short his Texas stay and go to Washington. (reporters were in an emotional tug-o-war, should he take care of Katrina or speak to Cindy Sheehan)
8.Bush, still in Crawford, participates in a half-hour video conference on Katrina with Vice President Cheney (who is in Wyoming) and top aides. Later, he boards Air Force One and flies over New Orleans on his way back to Washington. (Just like in farenheit 9/11 where is Cheney?)

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Male 992
1.the President, who is at his ranch in Crawford (boy they like pointing out how he was on vacation)
2.The President – at his ranch in Crawford – speaks briefly to reporters. His statement contains 203 words about Katrina and 819 congratulating Iraqis on their new constitution.
(non-partisan. right)
3. Bush promotes his Medicare prescription drug benefit at a 44-minute event in El Mirage, Arizona. He devotes 156 words to the hurricane,
4.Bush appears in Rancho Cucamonga, California for another Medicare event. He again devotes a few words to Katrina (keep pointing out how everything else but Katrina matters)
5.Time uncertain - Blanco calls Bush, saying, "Mr. President, we need your help. We need everything you`ve got." Bush later assures her that "help is on the way."(hmmm wonder why time was uncertain, maybe because it NEVER happened. Also tell me how something with time uncertain that absolves one person makes it into an unbiased, non-par
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Male 337
nothing is non-partisan, And this timeline is definately not.
It says things Bush did that was not related to his actions with the hurricane, why would that matter in a list about KAtrina timelines?
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Male 1,407
"*laughs hysterically* $3.54 for a gallon of petrol? what the hell are you whinging about? that`s less than aussies pay EVERYDAY!"

Are those US dollars or Aussie dollars? Here`s a little currency conversion for you: 3.54 USD = 4.61457 AUD

And I`m really tired of all this political bickering from both sides. The timeline is nonpartisan, so stop trying to add your own spin to everything.

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Male 287
Damn, I`m so sick of people pointing blame at everyone else. That`s the pootiest way to act when a hurricane killed (no joke) th gulf coast, just to further there party. Is this how split we are? To care more about our own party then humanity?
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Male 495
quote-He accepted responsibility for the Federal Level, did you hear Blanco accept any responsibility for State Level? Nagin for Local Level? Didn`t think so-quote

Exactly, I think we all know the blame is directly with these locally officials, and idirectly with President Bush. That is why we have all levels of government. The local government dropped the ball, leaving Bush`s hands all but tied. But, those who hate Bush will blame him for their farts stinking, so I guess it`s only natural for the uneducated drones to blame him for a hurricane. It is very tragic what happened, but many less fortunate countries live under these condition PERMANATELY!

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Male 1,083
I`m surprised to see that yet again the city itself was not prepared to fend for themselves if there was a study done saying that if there where a huricane the city would be screwed wouldnt the mayor take the extra precations to ensure that the city is evacuated even if there is a chance of a huricane hitting the city. I`m not american but it really angers me how people can so easily pass the blame even when they are partialy at fault.
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Female 712
I`m sorry that so many people lost their lives cause of this. I knew the damn government could`ve helped better, and I thought they did at first...
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Male 337
I love the one time uncertain
Time uncertain - Blanco calls Bush, saying, "Mr. President, we need your help. We need everything you`ve got." Bush later assures her that "help is on the way."

make that time 2 days after the flooding started

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Male 337
The feds can not enter and police your state whenever they feel like it, You would all be screaming if they could.
The facxt is its not up to the 49 other states to fix the levees, it was up to La.
As far as this list its bogus crap..

THey put in what they wanted you to hear. they dont mention who he calls, what he initiates etc...
there are large gaps in the timeline where I guess you would like to think the president was frozen in time and doing nothing.
AT 6am I was waking up and taking a poop.
at 8am when the flood started I was eating froot loops
does that mean I dont like black people?

And the mayor only toook resposibility AFTER Bush did. I`m happy Bush took responsibilty for nothing the federal gov did wrong. NOTHING! If you think they did then rewrite the rules and hand your life over to the feds.

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Female 208
Look...sure, the government is at fault. They had the crappy response time, they left thousands without food and medicine...but we don`t need all this political bullshi.t all the time. isawsparks...I`m sorry for what you`ve been through. Half my family is dealing with the same thing. Some people need to just have a little sympathy and not be so pigheaded.
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Male 1,061
kwl
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Female 588
*laughs hysterically* $3.54 for a gallon of petrol? what the hell are you whinging about? that`s less than aussies pay EVERYDAY!
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Female 588
who the hell has the time to count the words that Bush says about each topic? what about segways? are they counted as either? or both? or whatever the "statistician" wants them to be?

that`s about all i got from that. a whole lotta nothin`, news i`d already heard, and a badly set-out "timeline".

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Male 1,465
I totally agree. I just hope that this has shocked the country, local and federal, into refining its response to massive disasters. I shudder to think how this would have been handled if it was a massive attack. I’d hate to give some slimy f***ing terrorists the satisfaction of watching us run around and with our thumbs up our collective asses because of their cowardly BS actions.
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Male 992
The only thing that could have been done was to get as many people out as quickly as possible. That responsibility is the local and state governments, period. Once the disaster struck the only thing the Fed`s would be able to do is search and rescue missions. Im not a big fan of FEMA or any large government run organization, except for our military, but they did what they could handle which was lousy. Bush recognized this and knows that has to be fixed
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Male 1,465
"Im not blaming him, but if it`s the Federal Gvmts fault like you are all saying then it`s just as Much his, Carters, Reagan, Bush 41 and even Gerald Ford`s problem."

The problem there is that it wasn’t until a 2002 study that Louisiana realized that the Levees wouldn’t hold up against anything stronger than a category 3. The Army Corps of Engineers and Louisiana`s congressional delegation both petitioned the federal government for more funds but every year they received less and less. Was there state corruption that lead to this? More than likely, yes. However, we have layers of government for reasons. One of which is so if one level fails the people there is another there to set things right.

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Hmmm a wonderful story but I assume the liberal was there before the Hurricane
Better?

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Male 992
Don`t worry you can defeat the Liberitis you are infected with
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Female 20
Correction to post above: I`m NOT blaming Bush for the storm
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Female 20
Obviously you feel the need to humiliate me, even though you have no idea what I`ve been through. But that`s alright. We didn`t evacuate because we weren`t told to. I`m now blaming Bush for the storm. Just what happened afterwards. I am better off than alot of people around here. I have my family and a roof over my head as well as food and water. I am on the internet at work. We do not have the internet back up yet at home. I work the night shift and this is the deadest shift. It was very noble of you to post all of my information here. I realize I put it in for anyone who wanted to see it could, but I have to say that you achieved what you sought to do, which is make me feel invaded. I am not looking for sympathy or any handouts. It took alot for me to even post. As you can see, I`ve only posted four times before and have been coming to this sight for a couple of years. Thank you, theBSR, for reminding me how f*cking cruel people can really be. I don`t care anymore whose fault.
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Male 992
Because of money to pay for the War? Thats such a Liberal talking point! Please, how many porkbarrel projects could we have slashed to pay for it? Why would you take money from the most important thing in the budget? Again, as if you didn`t hear me, the Superbowl alone could have kickstarted this levee project. Mardi Gras revenues could have as well. Apparently the levee`s were not that important because no one in New Orleans seemed interested in getting the project done. Bill Clinton didn`t get it done, he had 8 years. Im not blaming him, but if it`s the Federal Gvmts fault like you are all saying then it`s just as Much his, Carters, Reagan, Bush 41 and even Gerald Ford`s problem. Do you guy`s want the Fed`s dressing you in the Morning also?
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Male 120
isawsparks: When you knew the hurricane was coming, why did you stay? I agree, it was Bush`s fault you didn`t leave. To break it down, the fault in the levee is not the Federal Governments problem. At best it was a problem for the State Government of Louisiana, but most likely the local level. The facts is, Bush did not force you or anyone else to stay, to lose everything, to die, or to do what Californians have been doing for a long time, playing too much for gas. It`s easy to sit back and whine because as they say, hindsight is 20/20, but acceptance of responsibility is criminal. Shame on Bush for accepting responsability for something that isn`t his fault. Kerry would have done a much better job at handling it. Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.
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Male 1,465
It’s generally understood among most reasonable people that the state was responsible for a lot of this mess as well. I`m just sick of people trying to completely absolve Bush of any responsibility. Not just the response time but the fact that the Army Corps of Engineers have had their budget cut progressively over the last three years despite requests for extra money to reinforce the levy system because of all the military spending. By the way, I wouldn’t have minded the military spending if we had stayed on focus of hunting terrorist factions or if Sadam really had WMD’s that he was about to try and wipe us out with.
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Male 992
Things that make you go hmmm
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Male 992
And are you on the Internet from the Astrodome or something? I mean they stole your gas your house was destroyed but you have time to come on the internet to play games?
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Male 992
And again I point out, If the Levee`s were in such dire need to be fixed, why didn`t they use money brought in from the SuperBowl? They knew about this 30 years, a little late to sound the alarm aint it?
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Male 992
Really I haven`t seen that plastered all over the news? Thats funny
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Male 992
Go run around the country and whine with Cindy Sheehan
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Female 20
Oh, and by the way, Blanco DID accept responsibility...BEFORE Bush.
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Male 992
Im sorry what did your Local officials do? So drat you!! I live in New York and we lost more lives but I don`t blame anyone but the Dirtbags that crashed those planes. You and all your Liberal friends problem is that you depend on the Government to much. Would it not be your local police forces responsibility to protect you from looters? Then the National Guard? Well Bush doesn`t control Either of those genius
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Female 20
give them more money. President Bush didn`t have ANY federal aid in place before Katrina struck. Misssissippi is still just as bad as it was almost two weeks ago. They have just begun to turn power on there. People are sleeping in their cars, if they are lucky to still have cars. There are twice as many FEMA and Red Cross sites in the city of New Orleans than there are in the entire state of Mississippi---and it made landfall in Mississippi!!! President Bush drated up. He and many others dropped the ball. And people died because of it. That is just the facts.
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Female 20
I live in Mobile, Alabama. My house was flooded and I got thrown to the ground 4 days after the hurricane by a man trying to steal my gasoline. I had to drive over 100 miles northeast to get fresh produce and meat for my family on the fifth day. I lost most everything and I didn`t hear from FEMA until this past Tuesday. Fifteen miles south of me, in Bayou La Batre, there is nothing. The whole town is gone from storm surge. Bayou La Batre was the #1 provider for crabmeat and oysters in the COUNTRY. Now 98% of the shrimpers and fishermen have lost everything. It took us 10 days to get power back, and we paid a record high of $3.54/gal for gas at the height of the gas shortage. President Bush came here first in his tour. To theBSR above me: Go and drat yourself. You did not live through this. You have no idea how bad it was and still is down here. President Bush was told more than once by the Army Corp of Engineers that the levees in New Orleans would give. He refused more than once to
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Male 992
He accepted responsibility for the Federal Level, did you hear Blanco accept any responsibility for State Level? Nagin for Local Level? Didn`t think so
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Male 1,465
You got to hand it to theBSR, he touts the party line even after bush went on record the other day stating "Katrina exposed serious problems in our response capability at all levels of government and to the extent the federal government didn`t fully do its job right, I take responsibility,". Did the governor of Louisiana fail? Yes, gut so did Bush. Everyone shares the blame.

The real point here, whether you support bush or not, is that this event raises serious doubts that we are any more equipped today to respond to a national emergency than we were before 9/11.

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Male 992
Yeah its amazing how the investigation in this ends in less than 3 weeks from the time of it occuring and thats a solid investigation because you Liberal tree huggers like the results from quotes taking from some of the most Leftwing Newspapers in the country lol please
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Male 992
The Bureaucratic FEMA is overwhelmed and takes a few days to be effective. In the meanwhile NO cops are quitting left and right and Blanco still has not utilized the National Guard. Contrary to what the New York Times will have you believe, she must deploy them not the federal Government. Nagins is busy looking for a new house in Houston and Landrieu is busy commiting a Federal Crime by threatening to harm the President. Everybody in the Left begins to blame Bush for the 10,000-20,000 deaths he could have prevented. The Feds take over and save 9,500-19,500 lives, mysteriously nobody credits Bush.

This gut disproves Kanyes looting theory, the end
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Female 368
Yes, clearly you know the "real" timeline, and a highly reputable non-partisan institution has got it all wrong. B-|

Anyway, great link, I`m glad someone posted it, I <3 FactCheck.org. I`m on their e-mail list, they haven`t sent out many e-mails since the election, but it was indispensable during the Presidential campaign.

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Male 992
Here is the real timeline....Gov Blanco, does nothing about the levee problem that was known about for 30 years, even though it was a major problem in her state. Mayor Ray Nagin does nothing about that problem either, also he has 1000 buses sitting by doing nothing that could have saved some lives instead they sat idle and helped to further polute the water. Sen Landrieu who got buses to bring those same poor, under privlaged black people to get to the polls to vote for her some how could not get those same buses to rescue the same people. She too must have known about the same problem with the levees since it was her States biggest potential problem. Disaster strikes, because of a Liberal environmental groups lawsuit preventing the Army corp. of engineers to build protective waterwalls in Lake Pontchartrain the waters burst through the Category 3 strength levees and flooded NO. Blanco, Nagins and Landrieu do nothing but blame the Feds.
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Male 16
Link: Katrina: What Happened When [Rate Link] - A (disturbing) timeline of the events surrounding Katrina and the government`s response (or lack thereof!)
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