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Date: 03/11/05 06:58 AM

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    buddy Male 30-39
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    March 10, 2005 at 11:58 pm
    Link: Police Standoff - Police decide to ram the suspect with their police car.

    Geez. From http://www.drasl.is/

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    QwertisHere Male 13-17
    11 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 12:05 am
    Geez is right... ;-/
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    YOTC Male 18-29
    103 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 7:04 am
    excellent move by the Police :D
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    headseed Male 70 & Over
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    March 11, 2005 at 8:58 am
    that dude should have stabbed the car
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    jtc970 Male 13-17
    337 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 9:24 am
    I dont think the policed "decided" to do anything, they did what they had to.
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    headseed Male 70 & Over
    370 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 10:30 am
    wtf are you talking about jtc970? someone obviously made a decision to run that perp down. are you implying that the driver acted on blind instinct? if so, keep that cop away from me...i`d hate to get run over for littering...
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    Homer1234 Male 18-29
    597 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 10:41 am
    He got stuck between the car and a parking meter

    OUCH!

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    jtc970 Male 13-17
    337 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 10:42 am
    dont wave a knife around, you`ll be fine.
    You would be the same person complaining about being stabbed because the cops didnt do what they had to, to stop him.
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    anglatay Female 18-29
    379 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 11:06 am
    Wow, is that police brutality??
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    TO_born Male 30-39
    9 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 11:15 am
    The incident occured in Toronto, Canada, and no, it is not police brutality. The officers were investigated and deemed to have done no wrong.
    Tell you what, living in Toronto, I`m happy to have these cops protecting our streets.
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    daydreaming Female 18-29
    115 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 11:55 am
    You do what you gotta do
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    rashameid Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2005 at 12:26 pm
    Using a patrol car to ram a suspect is excessive. Bad cops!
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    tiggergal Female 18-29
    409 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 1:07 pm
    well they didn`t wanna risk getting too close to the guy cuz they coulda been cut up...they wear bullet proof vests not knife proof...the guy should have just cooperated
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    EstiloPanama Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2005 at 1:09 pm
    jtc970, I agree with your response.
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    psychoman364 Male 18-29
    372 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 1:11 pm
    Excellent move by the cops! Nice idea they had.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
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    March 11, 2005 at 2:14 pm
    It looks like it would have hurt a lot more than it appeared to have. Once the car backed up, he seemed fine and dandy.
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    fk Male 70 & Over
    953 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 2:38 pm
    If you dig a bit of info on the incident, you`ll find the guy WANTED to die. He wasn`t attacking them, he was trying to get them to shoot him. Instead of getting him help and talking him down, they rammed him with their car. The police were reactionary morons. I love how idiots who know nothing of the story aside from what they see in a video, automatically cheer the cops` actions.
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    jinexile Male 18-29
    141 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 2:45 pm
    fk I applaud the police because they did what they had to to end the standoff without having serious injury to anyone. If the police got in close the guy could have attacked him and seriously injured one of the cops and may have gotten his wish to die.

    Suicide by cop is one of the most cowardly ways to die and is very selfish, forcing another person to live with killing another human being. It was a populated area so shooting to disable could have resulted in a bystander getting injuried.

    Tigergal the cops here actually wear slash resistant vests not kevlar. Slash resistant however does not mean it will prevent you from getting stabbed nor would it help if he slashed their faces or arms.

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    fk Male 70 & Over
    953 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 3:27 pm
    Must be nice to be able to judge a human being`s ultimate act of despair.
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    jinexile Male 18-29
    141 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 3:38 pm
    Who`s despair? The person that has to live with the fact that they were forced to kill a person or the one that was too cowardly to take thier own life let alone too cowardly to live it?
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    jtc970 Male 13-17
    337 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 4:30 pm
    fk, your right, he wasnt threatening anybody with the knife, they just happened upon him after make a Pb&J sandwich. The cops should have asked him to drop it until he fell asleep or sumthin.
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    Leftyy Male 13-17
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    March 11, 2005 at 6:38 pm
    Good move by the cops.

    Some hippies don`t appreciatte it though.

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    HOBYandy Male 18-29
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    March 11, 2005 at 7:15 pm
    ^^^agrees perfectly with leftyy.
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    James78 Male 18-29
    42 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 9:31 pm
    Nice one! He obviously had a warning, so I think the police did the right thing. If cops did that in England, they`d probably lose their jobs.
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    Roy_Igloo Male 13-17
    135 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 12:42 am
    O come on, they didn`t "do what they had to do" there were plenty of Non lethal options they could have persued, but instead they took the cheapest route. They rammed him into a parking meter with a 2 tonne behemoth. Don`t go all self righteous saying this "was what had to be down"

    They could have teargassed em or even beanbag him. The best option would probably to net him, But thats not what these "brave members of Society" did.

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    daydreaming Female 18-29
    115 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 1:00 am
    When you have someone acting erratically you can`t trust their moves, so coming up to them `nice-like` isn`t exactly going to cut it. Besides they didn`t hurt him so big freakin` deal. If he had hurt someone, then you`d just complain that they didn`t try hard enough to take him down.
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    Roy_Igloo Male 13-17
    135 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 1:14 am
    Who cares if they hurt him or not. they couldve thrown Pirahnas at him, whoopee-dee-doo. that probably would have been safer. but using a two tonne car to run a down a man with a knife is brainless
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    jtc970 Male 13-17
    337 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 1:29 am
    the man could have dropped the knife and not run between a moving car and a parking meter.
    I dont think all cops carry bean bag guns.

    Dont get all self rightous and blame the police. crap happens when your a raving knife weilding lunatic surrounded by cops.
    Im sure if the cop knew it was going to do what it did he would have turned a foot or two to the right, but when his brother are out their in danger for their lives, you do what you do.

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    YOTC Male 18-29
    103 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 2:55 am
    "The best option would probably to net him, But thats not what these "brave members of Society" did."

    Then he would just cut the net with his knife :p

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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
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    March 12, 2005 at 3:04 am
    why do they have guns again? Oh yeah so in case of a situation like this they can use them as a last resort and instead ram the SUSPECT with a car. Oh and wheres that darn pepper spray we pay hundreds of dollars in tax for every year? Perhaps they left it in the same place with their so called combat training. I think this should be the new clip for that song by green day- `dont want to be an american idiot`.
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    YOTC Male 18-29
    103 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 4:51 am
    I think that was in Canada, Agausixio. And what makes him a "suspect". ;)

    Im not sure of the distance pepper spray can get someone, but the cops probably didnt want to go close up incase of an attack.

    The cops got the job done and barely injured the insane man. I`ve seen worse injuries in a soccer match, thats not exactly a "rough" sport.

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    Clamwacker Male 18-29
    49 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 8:01 am
    I`m pretty sure that ramming him between the car and the pole was excessive use of force. The guy was burning the tires, for chrissakes!

    Of course, we don`t know what the guy did to deserve it, either. He could be the next Rodney King.

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    fk Male 70 & Over
    953 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 11:25 am
    I`m not always against using force of this nature...it depends on the situation. But Toronto cops just seem to really be retarded when it comes to use of force...they just don`t seem to know what they`re doing. Remember these are the same guys that SHOT A KITTEN in an inhabited apartment complex a few years ago because it was going nuts (suspected that the owner was doing drugs and gave it some) and the cop decided that`s how he was gonna subdue it. No exaggeration, either...it was a kitten.

    Also, a few days ago was it...that guy that set himself on fire because they didn`t know how to handle (i.e. just back off and wait for psych pros) a distraught protester. They kept approaching him and he kept TELLING THEM to back off and that they were leaving him no choice.

    Anyway. Toronto cops are a special breed of idiot.

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    ngflaco Male 18-29
    139 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 12:05 pm
    i just...um...wow...this argument could go both ways huh?
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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
    1397 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 1:22 pm
    ""I think that was in Canada, Agausixio. And what makes him a "suspect". ;)

    Im not sure of the distance pepper spray can get someone, but the cops probably didnt want to go close up incase of an attack.

    The cops got the job done and barely injured the insane man. I`ve seen worse injuries in a soccer match, thats not exactly a "rough" sport.""

    lol, okay so maybe the song should be `dont want to be a canadien idiot`. But Thats wasn`t really my point thought. I am just saying they had other ways of taking this guy out. Ramming a car into him probably wasn`t the best one.

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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
    1397 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 1:23 pm
    ngflaco is right, I guess there are sort of two sides.
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    look215 Male 18-29
    1084 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 2:58 pm
    I personally think we should let police officers have a bit of slack , we complain alot about police burtality but they do risk thier lives. Just recently in toronto there was a guy in a rental van ( reminicent of the oklahoma city bombings) and he was threatenging to hurt people at a near by protest by blowing himself up.
    They had this on TV as it happened and in the end he lighted himself up with a bottle of gasoline. If police officers have to worry about thier actions even more than they do know this situation could have been allot worse.
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    depawel Male 50-59
    4 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 8:58 pm
    If a cop tells you to do something; do it. Afterwards it`s the court which makes the decision. Anyone who resists should be taken down anyway possible. Take Rodney King for example; we`ve only seen the last 10 minutes of that incident, not the half hour prior when he acted like the non-nice individual he is.
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    iamboredreal Male 30-39
    2 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 9:17 pm
    I’ve been a police officer for seven years in the Chicago area. Here’s the problem. The first thing you have to remember is although we may have had a big 40 hours of self defense in a police academy, no cop is "combat trained." You can’t expect police to be able to overcome any situation, like this one, without any harm to anyone. I’m concerned about three things. Firstly, I don’t want to get hurt. I’m just like you, remember? Secondly, I don’t want to see anyone else get hurt. And thirdly, I don’t want to see the bad guy get hurt. But to effect one and two, I’ll choose the bad guy getting hurt.

    In this situation, the cops contained the bad guy by surrounding him. The bad guy moved at the cops, who have two options, retreat, or shoot him until he is no longer a threat. They didnâ€

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    iamboredreal Male 30-39
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    March 12, 2005 at 9:18 pm
    shoot because they were able to retreat. They showed restraint by allowing that option. Once their retreat was not possible, either they were blocked or the bad guy was endangering others, the cops should shoot. If the guy should close in on a cop faster than the cop can retreat, the bad guy should be shot until he no longer advances. The cop is not going to turn tail and run away, he has to be able to shoot if the bad guy starts running or lunges.

    Police are justified using deadly force when, a reasonable police officer believes his life or someone else’s live is in eminent danger. It is not judged from hindsight, but from the viewpoint of a police officer (not a untrained citizen) in a rapidly evolving situation where decisions have to be made in split seconds.

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    bondfool007 Male 13-17
    11 posts
    March 14, 2005 at 6:37 pm
    cool yet creepy
    :-|

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