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36 Responses to American Francophobia

  1. Profile photo of KikiPeepers
    KikiPeepers Female 30-39
    2247 posts
    March 10, 2005 at 9:24 pm
    Link: American Francophobia - Why do Americans hate the French? Here is a timeline of events that could explain this phenomenon.

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    KikiPeepers Female 30-39
    2247 posts
    March 10, 2005 at 9:26 pm
    I love this quote!

    "The last time the French asked for `more proof` it came marching into Paris under a German flag." -- David Letterman

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    MercedesR320 Female 18-29
    82 posts
    March 10, 2005 at 11:24 pm
    Wow! That was enlightening! I always have hated the French for obvious reasons, and now I have even more reasons to hate them.

    I love this quote.

    "You know why the French don`t want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he hates America, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people." --- Conan O`Brien

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    fk Male 70 & Over
    953 posts
    March 10, 2005 at 11:58 pm
    F-ing idiots.
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    KottonxMouth Female 18-29
    80 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 12:11 am
    99.9% of all countries hate us for what we are doing to the rest of the world...and I think they have every reason to. I just hope I live long enough to get out of this country...The government is so messed up...blaa...I an not even going to get into it.
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    just_a_name Female 18-29
    4 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 12:15 am
    You know, I hate when people go on about hating the French. Just because the government takes certain actions, you can`t assume they represent the opinions of all of the people. Just as in this war. A large part of the United States thinks the French were right, that we had no reason to go to war, and we should have not have gotten involved. Yet we did.

    The French didn`t fight hard enough against the Germans, huh? How many of those people were actually making the decisions, and actaully fighting? Only a small percentage. Yet many of you would judge every Frenchman by their actions.

    It is unwise to make judgements about groups of people. Its what leads to stereotyping and discrimination.

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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 1:10 am
    Man!

    This website makes out that the French have somehow been cast as some sweet little kid in the playgroung being unfairly tormented by US trailer park bullies.

    What a load of crap! No amount of US "French bashing" could ever come close to rabid and ingrained and irrational anti-Americanism that goes on in France. And no...this hasn`t just been over the Iraq thing. This has been going on for decades.

    I lived there. I am Canadian. I can tell you that the daily, stupid hate that spewed out of the TVs, the radios, the newspapers and the peoples mouths was gross and tiresome.

    And yes...by and large, the French are WAY more rude than Americans....sorry!

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    just_a_name Female 18-29
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    March 11, 2005 at 1:27 am
    "...the French are WAY more rude than Americans..."

    This is exactly what I`m talking about. I`ll tell you all something. The French don`t smile as much as Americans. They don`t smile on the street at random people, or when there isn`t an obvious reason to. Americans often will smile at people just because they make eye contact. So you go down the streets of France, and no one is smiling. Automatically you think back, "Yes, I should have known. The French are all snobs." You hurt yourself more than you hurt those you stereotype.

    Listen to stereotypes and you`ll hear Canadians are indecisive, black people are lazy, Italians are all members of the mafia--all of which may be true for some. There are too many nice and wonderful people in this world. Give everyone the same chance.

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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 3:14 am
    Sorry to finish on a "stereotype" but it`s a cultural reality. Having spent time in Japan, I feel that the Japanese are more polite than Canadians, Italians, Francophones, and Americans put together. Not to paint everyone with the same brush, but we could all stand to learn from Japan (in general) about politeness. I would feel ridiculous saying the same thing about the French, because that`s just the way it is right now.

    By the way, I loved my time in France. I wouldn`t trade my time there for anything.

    However, I feel compelled to speak up when someone creates a web page that tries to portray Americans as a bunch of Francophobes. I have rarely experienced the level of "accepted racism" anywhere in the world as I have in France regarding the "stupid, loud, lazy, ignorant, etc" Americans. It was gross, and I have never seen Americans behave the same way on such a mass scale towards France as France has towards Americans.

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    nagual678 Male 18-29
    8 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 3:27 am
    the funny thing is that no one here has a somewhat objective view of the french, your judgements are all plagued by ethnocentrism.

    i AM french, and i have been living in France since my birth. saying that the media is anti-american is bullpoo. saying that french are snobs is bullpoo. as someone pointed out we may not smile at each person we see but i can assure you that if you even *tried* to talk to a frenchie you`d see the snobism is just part of what you are supposed to think of us as an american. and the people here that dislike america dislike its government and/or it`s imperialistic politic, NO ONE here with something comparable to a brain is ever going to attack an american just because he is one. and to the people mentioning WWII : try telling that to the resistants. the government obviously surrendered but frenchs never, ever stopped fighting the germans. open some history book, i don`t know. do something other than spewing out your nonsensical prejudices, PLEASE.

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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 4:38 am
    nagual678:

    The funny thing is that I am totally objective. I am neither French nor American, and don`t really care who wins the "we are better" argument because I don`t really care. I speak French and English, and love Americans just as much as I love the French. Nothing I say is PRE-judcial, but POST-judicial after personal experience.

    But to say that "NO ONE" in France would attack an American just because he`s an American is simply (and sadly) untrue. Not only is it untrue, but "big brained" people who should know better (newspaper editors, publishers, etc) brag about their dislike for Americans, their culture, their looks...whatever (similar to the idiots in America that came up with "Freedom Fries" in the Congress cafeteria). To say that it`s just "dislike of the gov`t" is simply untrue.

    And the French media! Give me a break. Ever read "Le Monde?" Ever read "Libération?" Ever watch "Le

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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 4:44 am
    Besides...I think this whole web site is a fake.

    You can tell that it was all done with photoshop and...er...cakewalk an stuff...

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    chirths_fate Male 18-29
    385 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 4:45 am
    Dude american`s hate the french because american`s are all fat lazy slobs and french have the perfect body shape (female) That why the american hate the french because you are jeaous
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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 5:02 am
    "That why the american hate the french because you are jeaous"

    You forgot to mention "illiterate".

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    Liang Male 18-29
    41 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 6:14 am
    I don`t think this argument should even boil down the the individual alone. If you want to blame anything, blame the government or people in position, not the whole people as a race or religion. It`s not only unfair, it`s seeing the world in only your light and nobody else`s. If the world is going to turn out to be this unaccepting, or future leaders use past incidents against each other, the world would just be a mess... Maybe try envisioning a world truly free of prejudice and work towards it?

    I shall not comment on chriths_fate`s response for fear that it might hint Australians` tendencies not to see beyond looks and glamour.

    Which is not what I`m trying to say.

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    cpux Male 18-29
    115 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 6:55 am
    The reason it`s so easy for Americans to poke fun and hate at the French in my opinion is because there are very very few French Americans. It`s hard to rip at the Irish or the Italians or other Europeans because a lot of them emigrated for one reason or another.

    And here`s a quote I particularly liked from the top:

    "America stereotypes the people of France as rude, effete bastards having an undeserved air of self-importance and a culture based primarily around their cuisine."

    Oddly enough, I believe the feeling is mutual, except that unlike French cuisine, which is renowned as being among the best, American cuisine (at least stereotypically) consists of Quarter Pounders and 9 Pc. chicken buckets.

    PS: For whatever reason, Bill O`Reilly is still boycotting France. Though I haven`t seen "freedom fries" in a while.

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    _andread_ Male 18-29
    491 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 9:20 am
    I don`t understand why these two specimens can`t get along, since they fought on the same side in both WW`s and France offered them their current international trademark: The Statue of Liberty
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    fk Male 70 & Over
    953 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 9:50 am
    Funny how all this unbelievable stupidity was basically ignited a couple of years ago by the US`s claim of WMD`s in Iraq, etc. ad nauseum, and that France actually was correct after all.

    Americans are so disgustingly ignorant and just plain stupid lately that it defies description. That site is just the tip of the iceberg.

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    daydreaming Female 18-29
    115 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 12:01 pm
    Can we not have ONE post that doesn`t go back to Iraq ... it`s so pathetic.
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    Nenawin Female 13-17
    20 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 1:48 pm
    I think that everyone is as bad as each other, the french shouldn`t vilify the Americans, but the same applies to americans attitudes towards the french. However i would like to say that i think it is so annoying how Americans think everone should lick their arses just because of WW2. They should have helped out the countries they were allied to because it was a matter of uniting to destroy evil and preserve cultures, not because they wanted everyone to bow down and kiss there feet in thankfulness for ever more.
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    manorrd Male 30-39
    2372 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 2:08 pm
    neawin:

    You`re absolutly right. It`s stupid no matter what "side" you hear it from.

    And the WW2 thing? Spot on again.

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    LushSativa Female 18-29
    30 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 3:36 pm
    I think that this website would have been more effective and believable if it actually had a timeline of EVENTS that concerned the USA and France. As it is, I don`t think that a few quotes from Fonzie and the Simpsons (as much as I love them) should sway anyone this way or that.

    You have to look back to the origin of America to understand their relationship with the French. Sure, you could say that the French would be speaking German without the Americans, but if it weren`t for the French, all the Americans would be British citizens! The French bankrupted themselves to help you gain your independence, and I think it`s sad that either side has such negative opinions about the other. I mean, all these quotes say how much the French should be down on their hands and knees thanking the US, but I think it should go both ways. You both saved each other`s hides, ok?

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    workin4jesus Male 13-17
    132 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 4:47 pm
    What was with all of the Simpsons quotes?
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    gotribe06 Male 18-29
    99 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 9:06 pm
    We have have "freedom fries" just about everyday at school. They taste just about the same as french fries.
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    Zooks Male 18-29
    164 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 9:47 pm
    Gotribe06, isn`t that the symbol of the lake county captains?
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    daydreaming Female 18-29
    115 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 10:00 pm
    It is pretty childish ... this back and forth thing ... it`s like a friendship between 10 year olds - I did this for you, so you do this for me. Just get over it people ... everyone`s going to dislike everyone else for some reason or another ... boo hoo
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    gotribe06 Male 18-29
    99 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 10:50 pm
    Yeah Zooks, it is. I`m with daydreaming on this one. This "we hate you and you hate us" whining battle does nothing productive for either of us. We both need each other, and would not be the same without each other. Also, FK, you are a moron.
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    CharlotteS Female 18-29
    6 posts
    March 11, 2005 at 11:45 pm
    French American here who is highly amused by this web site. I guess the biased author forgot to add there wouldn`t even be an America if it wasn`t for France. France experienced their revolution because the government was spending domestic aid on the American wars for independence against the British. It was our sister country, as the statue of liberty pays testimonty to. People who honestly think that France has nothing but the worst of intentions towards America and always have, know nothing of history.

    Concerning us supposedly saving the French in WWII that`s American propaganda. France was fighting Germany for five years and America didn`t get involved until the last minute. France has been fighting Germany over the Alsace Lorraine Territory since the time of Charlamenge. (800 ad) They still have their own separate cultures, their own distinct languages and that will not change.

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    Aqausixio Female 18-29
    1397 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 3:24 am
    "Yeah Zooks, it is. I`m with daydreaming on this one. This "we hate you and you hate us" whining battle does nothing productive for either of us. We both need each other, and would not be the same without each other. Also, FK, you are a moron."

    I hope you realize how your very last sentence completely contradicted what you just wrote. Thus making you the apparent moron.

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    gotribe06 Male 18-29
    99 posts
    March 12, 2005 at 10:07 pm
    I fail to see the contradiction. It must be because I`m "the moron". Or could it be you misinterpreted my comment?
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    Marc1 Male 18-29
    1 post
    April 5, 2005 at 7:31 pm
    Just a couple of points as I`m French and British, i`m quite amused to read through these posts.

    Firstly: As France is a mainly socialist country (sadly) it`s not unexpected that both extremes of the political spectrum hate the ultra liberal economic policies in the US.

    Secondly: France is a secular state. (This might be a problem for Dubya and his gang.) Separation of church and state, i.e. In public schools and administrations it is not allowed to show a particular religious belonging (thank god!). Most people will have heard about the hysteria concerning the muslim head scarf in public schools. (Don`t forget that Turkey is a secular state with islam as the dominant religion and girls aren`t allowed to wear the head-scarf in public schools or public administrations either).

    From my experience the average french person doesn`t hate the US. If you`re looking for anti-americanism, look towards the UK. Monty Python, Bremner, Bird and Fortune just to name a few. Neocons are the enem

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    jadedmom Female 30-39
    239 posts
    April 6, 2005 at 12:19 pm
    All together now:
    "I love you, you love me,
    We`re a happy family..."
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    ChickenMan Male 13-17
    250 posts
    April 9, 2005 at 4:03 pm
    "This website makes out that the French have somehow been cast as some sweet little kid in the playgroung being unfairly tormented by US trailer park bullies.

    What a load of crap! No amount of US "French bashing" could ever come close to rabid and ingrained and irrational anti-Americanism that goes on in France. And no...this hasn`t just been over the Iraq thing. This has been going on for decades.

    I lived there. I am Canadian. I can tell you that the daily, stupid hate that spewed out of the TVs, the radios, the newspapers and the peoples mouths was gross and tiresome.

    And yes...by and large, the French are WAY more rude than Americans....sorry!"

    Thank you! I`m sick of people spewing crap about my country! Sometimes it seems this WHOLE site is liberal!

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    CharltonAndy Male 40-49
    3 posts
    July 27, 2005 at 1:17 pm
    The French are beneath contempt and wrong on every subject. Vichy, The Rainbow Warrior, Iraq, the EU - you name it. They are cowards and selfish. I would cheerfully execute a terrorist bomber but at least they believe in something and have the courage to do something about it. This is an alien concept in France.
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    CharltonAndy Male 40-49
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    July 27, 2005 at 1:33 pm
    Dear Charlotte S. The French actually "fought" Germany for about 30 seconds before they started to surrender and then collaborate, pointing out where Jews where and joining the Vichy police. Read a history book darling.
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    CharltonAndy Male 40-49
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    July 27, 2005 at 1:40 pm
    p.s. Chicken Man IS the man!

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