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    buddy Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2004 at 3:25 pm
    Link: Kerry Cheating at Debate? - A video showing Kerry pulling something out of his pocket at the debate. They were not allowed to bring any notes.

    Could be something else I suppose.

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    jasendorf Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2004 at 3:39 pm
    Amazing to realize what length the neocons will go to to try and protect the failure of President Bush to perform at the debate, isn`t it?
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    Malletman Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2004 at 3:49 pm
    WHY does this never play for me? I keep getting a white screen...
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    buddy Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2004 at 3:51 pm
    You need the quicktime plug-in.
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    Malletman Male 18-29
    679 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 3:57 pm
    I do... That`s what`s bugging me.
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    lonepoet Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2004 at 3:59 pm
    On the contrary jasendorf, it`s amazing to realize what lengths people will go to try to make President Bush look bad.
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    lonepoet Female 18-29
    208 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 4:13 pm
    See, it`s in this webpage. I can`t believe someone was desparate enough to take the time to construct fake medals just to make him look bad. Anyone with half a brain knows this webpage isn`t legitimate.
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    Malletman Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2004 at 4:18 pm
    That`s satire, lonepoet. And I`m sure someone didn`t go through great lengths to do that...
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    Btrfly701 Female 18-29
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    October 4, 2004 at 4:21 pm
    no one will ever agree on the kerry/bush debate...just drop it.
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    buddy Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2004 at 5:16 pm
    I wonder if those could be reading glasses he`s taking out? Or maybe an inhaler?
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    Ragdrazi Male 18-29
    490 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 5:29 pm
    Fox news confirms it. The item is. . . wait for it. . . A BLACK PEN!!!!!!!!!! In a related story, Bush is still an idiot. Film at ll.
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    ManWithAnAxe Male 70 & Over
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    October 4, 2004 at 7:04 pm
    woooopdy doo, he pulled something out of his pocket. lets all make a big deal about it.
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    someone? Male 13-17
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    October 4, 2004 at 7:07 pm
    not allowed to bring any notes?

    I swear I saw Bush forget something and look down at what is probably notes

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    ManWithAnAxe Male 70 & Over
    253 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 7:09 pm
    yea...he had a huge piece of paper in front of him, and no one speculates anythihng, but kerry pulls a pen out of his pocket and everyone runs for cover. Of course he didnt have notes, everyone would see.
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    doughnut2004 Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2004 at 8:16 pm
    who cares there as bad as oneanother
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    buddy Male 30-39
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    October 4, 2004 at 8:22 pm
    They were able to write notes during the debate (each had a pad of paper on his lecturn) they just were not suppoed to bring anything in with them.
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    Ragdrazi Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2004 at 9:24 pm
    Check it out. It`s 11`oclock.

    . . . let me finish.

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    scuzzy Male 18-29
    194 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 9:41 pm
    hey ragdrazi, take it somewhere that people care...
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    Ragdrazi Male 18-29
    490 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 10:04 pm
    I think that`s better rephased as take it somewhere away from you. No.
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    flovebunny Female 18-29
    406 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 10:52 pm
    haha to ragdrazi`s black pen post :-D
    seriously though, you kerry wankers...ahem, supporters need to calm yourself on the bush bashing, you`re giving democrats a bad name. you already misbehaved enough at the republican national convention. take a breath and at least form your insults with a bit more decorum and creativity. ahhh, i`m shouting to the wind, aren`t i?
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    Malletman Male 18-29
    679 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 10:53 pm
    Flove, those weren`t Dems, those were mostly anarchists...
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    Ragdrazi Male 18-29
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    October 4, 2004 at 11:04 pm
    Wait? Do you mean the Bush Bashers getting their asses kicked in the streets by the cops? Or the Bush Bashers getting their asses kicked inside the actual convention?

    . . . when exactly did presenting factual information in criticism of a president become illegitimate again?

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    flovebunny Female 18-29
    406 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 11:08 pm
    i watched that debate desperation movie thing. GREAT points made at the discrepancies in bush`s speeches, however we have to keep in mind that kerry was part of Yale`s debate team and could make any point/counterpoint sound good with the skills he picked up at school. bush is, to put it niceley, not as eloquent, and that`s why we saw him choke and bumble in his usual fashion up there. he`s got some good ideas for america, but needs his speechwriter to make them SOUND like good ideas as well...ok i`m done ranting
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    flovebunny Female 18-29
    406 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 11:15 pm
    rag, they had the right to peacebly convene and protest, and they were doing one hell of a lot more than that. please take off your rose tinted demmy glasses and look at it objectively
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    Ragdrazi Male 18-29
    490 posts
    October 4, 2004 at 11:43 pm
    I have no rose colored glasses. We have the video. We have the witnesses. New York is going to have to pay protestors for their treatment of them. They are going to have to pay them. You know. . . I`ve seen this stuff in action. I`ve seen a girl I liked get her ass kicked by the cops at one of these protests for absolutly no reason. So don`t tell me I have rose colored glasses. I’m actually shaking right now.

    As far as the debate desperation, the point there is that Bush literally lied in the debate. Things like A.Q. Khan, not being brought to justice. As far as good idea`s are concerned, I guess that one is up to you. I think that what we`ve seen so far, quagmire. . . the largest deficit since the great depression. . . I think these things more then prove that Bush has very bad ideas for America. And. . . it does seem very poor and sad to me to discount Kerry`s ideas simply because they were eloquent.

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    gizmo331 Male 18-29
    384 posts
    October 5, 2004 at 12:06 am
    personally i don`t see the point of not allowing notes. in a real-life situation, you WOULD be able to use any information available to you...

    who cares what someone pulled out of their pocket anyways? i mean, Bush used to be a crackhead and a drunk but you ppl still voted for him...i doubt kerry pulling something out of his pocket at a debate (or more accurately, a news conference since they aren`t actually debates) will have a negative effect on potential voters.

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    gizmo331 Male 18-29
    384 posts
    October 5, 2004 at 12:09 am
    also, buddy, "Kerry Cheating at Debate" is a bad title to give this link since you don`t actually have any proof as to whether or not he was cheating (which in all probability he was not. the same goes for bush).
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    sinistaswoll Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2004 at 1:03 am
    I did an investigation into this and found out what was on the note cards to read just follow this link http://thebacklot.blogspot.com/2004/10/j...
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    KCN0113 Male 18-29
    182 posts
    October 5, 2004 at 4:46 pm
    this sure was an interesting bunch of replies to read.
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    flovebunny Female 18-29
    406 posts
    October 5, 2004 at 6:46 pm
    hey, rag, i don`t mean to get you upset. we see things differently, and i`m sorry about your friend. let`s agree to disagree about politics :-)
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    jlconran07 Male 13-17
    87 posts
    October 5, 2004 at 8:16 pm
    I understand that you like to express your opinions here, but the plain and simple truth is this: It doesn`t matter what you think. Unless you vote for our leader to represent us, your opinion is useless. Did Kerry cheat? None of us know. And the fact is, it`s useless to sit at our computers and rant on a forum that only five people every read. (See if you can spot the contradiction!!!)
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    gizmo331 Male 18-29
    384 posts
    October 6, 2004 at 1:35 am
    jlconran07, obviously your opinion is useless and doesn`t matter either since you cannot legally vote.

    besides, even if you ARE legally able to vote, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU SHOULD. if you want to vote for kerry just because "he`s not bush," don`t vote. if you don`t pay attention to world issues, don`t vote. if you don`t read a good newspaper(s), don`t vote. if you don`t know who to vote for, don`t vote. if you get all of your political information from the 6:00 news, don`t vote. i don`t want any of your uninformed votes cancelling out the votes of people who DO know what`s going on.

    the above is the reason that i am not voting this year. i do not believe that i have enough information on either candidate to make an appropriate desicion. i think that everyone should make the same evaluation of themselves.

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    gizmo331 Male 18-29
    384 posts
    October 6, 2004 at 1:51 am
    just because someone does not vote does not mean that they are any less important to this country. this "get out and vote" propoganda that MTV seems to be spreading around seems to imply that if you don`t vote, you are a traitor. that`s complete bullsh*t. just because i don`t vote doesn`t mean i love my country any less. i would die defending it. by understanding that i cannot come to an appropriate desicion, i AM doing what i think is best for the country by not voting. otherwise my vote might go to the wrong candidate and that wouldn`t be good.
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    SimonB Male 18-29
    6 posts
    October 6, 2004 at 9:38 am
    Ugh, to be honest im in the UK so i cant vote even if i wanted. The thing is that it is justthat. A vote. Ok so yeah i guess one can make a difference, but on the same hand you may vote but its still some hypercritical politician that sits in the chair. So either way does it really matter?
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    gizmo331 Male 18-29
    384 posts
    October 6, 2004 at 9:39 pm
    simon, how does your system work as far as picking the prime minister? i`m interested.
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    gizmo331 Male 18-29
    384 posts
    October 6, 2004 at 9:43 pm
    and yes, a vote does matter depending on your viewpoint. to the candidate that is running for office, all votes are important because they want the most votes to go to them. in the citizens` viewpoint (or at least in the US), a vote isn`t necessarily that important because we have the ridiculous electoral college system where someone can lose the popular vote and still win the election (i.e.: 2000).
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    fogg_1966 Male 30-39
    1 post
    October 7, 2004 at 4:06 am
    Seem strange that the video also shows Bush pulling a so called "cheat sheet" out.

    http://americablog.blogspot.com/full-spe...
    http://americablog.blogspot.com/half-spe...

    I`m sure Drudge was just about to break the story.

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    jlconran07 Male 13-17
    87 posts
    October 7, 2004 at 10:25 pm
    If you don`t know enough about our candidates, then yes, you shouldn`t waste or misuse your vote. I agree with you there gizmo. And perhaps you are correct with your view of public ignorance of our candidates. Apart from this, is it our responsibility as American citizens to pay attention to our president during his term, evaluate his actions, and compare them to the new candidates of the next presidency. Does it sound like too much homework? Well that`s too bad. I hate it when people who don`t vote sit there and whine about our president`s decisions (not you gizmo :-) ). Can we completely predict what each president will do? No. But we can research the candidates` planks and decide if they share our opinion. Do I agree with the electoral college? Heck no, but due to the abundance of American apathy on government issues, this system will stay in tact. I know I can`t vote because of my age gizmo, but it is my responsibility to study each candidate for the next election.
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    jphunt09 Male 30-39
    2 posts
    October 14, 2004 at 2:57 am
    KERRY IS A COMPLETE MORON...AND IF HE BECOMES PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, MY KIDS, YOUR KIDS AND THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF AMERICA GOES STRAIGHT DOWN THE pooTER. HE`S AN ABSOLUTE LOSER!!
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    jphunt09 Male 30-39
    2 posts
    October 14, 2004 at 3:01 am
    HEY RAGHEAD OR RAGDRAZI OR WHATEVER THE HELL U CALL YOURSELF, GO OVER TO IRAQ AND GET THE drat OUT OF THE UNITED STATES....BY THE WAY, LETS ELECT CARTOON CHARACTER KERRY BECAUSE AS YOU SAY "SAD TO ME TO DISCOUNT KERRY`S IDEAS SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WERE ELOQUENT". SADDAM SAID SOME ELOQUENT THINGS TOO, BUT THAT DOESN`T MEAN THEY ARE RIGHT YOU MORON. YOU HAVE TO BE A TRANSPLANT FROM SOME THIRD WORLD COUNTRY....YOU AREN`T AN AMERICAN!!!
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    gonethinkin Female 18-29
    2 posts
    October 15, 2004 at 8:46 pm
    I feel really bad for this country because there are many people who think like you jphunt. Because of your intense love for one man (Bush) you feel you can slander someone you don`t even know. I wish you would read over your entry and see how crazy you sound.
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    Yankeefan1 Male 18-29
    26 posts
    November 26, 2004 at 5:47 pm
    Argueing political standpoints on the internet is pointless, which is why I am going to keep my left-wing comments out. All I am going to say is that in all fairness, It was quite appearent tht GWB was wearing a earpiece or something of that matter based on the very detailed bulge on the back of his jacket :\
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    mc80a Male 18-29
    96 posts
    November 26, 2004 at 6:46 pm
    YOU IDIOT! THESE HAVE ALL BEEN RESOLVED! WHY DID YOU BRING THIS BACK?

    Excuse the CaPs.

    Wow. WOW. It`s been over a month. LET IT DIE.

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    folife Male 13-17
    157 posts
    November 30, 2004 at 8:26 pm
    i`m sorry but i find president bush an idiot. oh yeah what does it matter what i say i`m free choice giving pinko kami scumbag liberal. o well

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